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jo-ann May 22nd 2007 5:16 am

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Hi we are into watercolour painting, not so easy to find good quality paper and paints out here though so have to stock up in Gib, but we now have around 22 people that meet once a week for an afternoon of painting which is much better than than the non artistic house painting. Its been a great way to meet new people with the same interests.

gallerie9 May 22nd 2007 6:03 am

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For my sins I am a Art teacher, I taught in schools and Uni for a few years,
My main subject is Ceramics, but I can turn my hand to most things.
Bigbudda you are going to create a "mixed media" art work Ask any questions you want I should know the answer.

gallerie9 May 22nd 2007 6:12 am

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Originally Posted by Bigbhudda69 (Post 4813858)
:eek:...No really..
I have noticed in the short time I have been on the forum that a lot of you guys are wise, caring, sensitive, stubborn...or in other words...Artists.( no rugbymatt..P**s artists need not apply.)

I am sure many of you share a passion for Arts or Crafts, whether you are taking your first tentative steps in a new hobby or are a fully fledged pro...I thought from my own perspective it would be nice to be able to share knowledge and give advise to each other, and maybe even display your work via the gallery.
It can be lonely and intimidating when you have a whole load of paints, canvas, clay, patchwork, stamping etc laid in front of you...where do you start ??

What do you think....??

My starter for ten..I want to make a heavily textured picture using textiles, card, leaves etc, also using acrylic paints...I have bought a pre stretched canvas to work on...what do I do next ?, prime it ?..with what ?..PVA ?, diluted acrylic paint ?...see what I mean.

If you think this is a rubbish idea please say so, Bhudda has broad shoulders.:D

:eek:..I thank yow.

The canvas could be already primed.
You can mix sand into the paint, that gives a real heavy apperance and layer it using a knife or a peice of wood ( i am good at improvising not much budget in schools )
You can use fabric to layer again you can make some good surfaces using sacking and even sawdust or wood shavings make great interesting surfaces.
using your hands and figures and push the medium around.

I am getting a kiln in the near future I cant wait to start up my studio.

Good luck Hope it all goes really well.

Bigbhudda69 May 22nd 2007 6:26 am

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Originally Posted by MnM (Post 4814685)
Hi BB,

Michael says that you should prime the canvas with gesso. You should be able to buy it from the same place you are buying your canvases. You can mix gesso and pva to get some texture. You can even mix some plaster to get even more texture, or just buy a texture additive.

For acrylic paints, you can buy a wet palette (it's not massively expensive), it keeps acrylic paint wet for weeks.

Great thread by the way ;)
Martha

Hey Martha..thanks for joining in, it's nice to have the pro's in offering a guiding hand, I will have to go to the art shop for Gesso, it sounds like what I am looking for to get the texture..I think I will just have to experiment at this stage and see what happens...:eek:


Originally Posted by silverchick (Post 4814773)
Not really talented just like faffing around!! No I haven't got any pics I'm afraid. Would love to be able to earn a bit of money from doing something like that, at one time in my house if you stood still you got verdigri'd! I wish i'd done more crafts when i lived in the states, they're craft mad over there! at least theres the internet now for ideas!:)

Well Silverchick your faffing around sounds really nice, I am sure there will be small gift shops who would be interested in your work for selling on, that kind of thing is very popular, particularily if you give it a Spanish twist, I know what you mean about the states, I have pals in Atlanta and they are craft potty over there with fantastic supply shops everywhere..sounds like the WWW is the place for supplies...:eek:


Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 4814971)
Depends on where you are, there is a lot of artist materials available and many shops selling canvas, paint, brushes, paints for glass and ceramics. There are, certainly around here. plenty of craft shops selling card making materials, and if you can't get it locally, there is always e bay, postage for that sort of thing isn't that high. There are also numerous stalls at car boot sales selling such materials. My wife buys hers from them or from e bay.

What area are you in Mikelincs, it may be of help to someone nearer you..but I guess the Bay or anywhere on the web is easiest...:eek:


Originally Posted by MnM (Post 4815316)
Two of Michael's latest.....(hoping I don't get banned for the first one :eek:....she is, afterall, fully clothed....well almost :rofl:)

Oh btw jdr....the upload thingie seems to have sorted itself out ;)

They look so good Martha...Michael certainly knows his stuff , what medium has he used ? I think he caught you in just the right light there....:eek:

Bigbhudda69 May 22nd 2007 6:34 am

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Originally Posted by jo-ann (Post 4815729)
Hi we are into watercolour painting, not so easy to find good quality paper and paints out here though so have to stock up in Gib, but we now have around 22 people that meet once a week for an afternoon of painting which is much better than than the non artistic house painting. Its been a great way to meet new people with the same interests.

Hi Jo-ann..I really did think there was a great deal of untapped talent on the forum and it seems so, I totally agree with you about meeting like minded people it is so enjoyable and so theraputic, I have not really tried watercolours yet, I have the brushes and paint but not the mindset yet, hence the textured approach, is it a club you run...do you show your work in exhibitions..how about dislaying some in the BE forum art gallery...?....:eek:

Bigbhudda69 May 22nd 2007 6:43 am

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Originally Posted by gallerie9 (Post 4815901)
For my sins I am a Art teacher, I taught in schools and Uni for a few years,
My main subject is Ceramics, but I can turn my hand to most things.
Bigbudda you are going to create a "mixed media" art work Ask any questions you want I should know the answer.


Originally Posted by gallerie9 (Post 4815936)
The canvas could be already primed.
You can mix sand into the paint, that gives a real heavy apperance and layer it using a knife or a peice of wood ( i am good at improvising not much budget in schools )
You can use fabric to layer again you can make some good surfaces using sacking and even sawdust or wood shavings make great interesting surfaces.
using your hands and figures and push the medium around.

I am getting a kiln in the near future I cant wait to start up my studio.

Good luck Hope it all goes really well.

:eek:...Oh my prayers have been answered my own Art teacher...heaven..;)

I am getting some great advice and what you say about the layers and materials is spot on..can I use leaves, bark, etc...do I just PVA them on in layers or do it all at once..? what if I wanted to paint something on the canvas before applying the media...?

It hurts when you are away from something you enjoy doing so much..I hope you get your kiln real soon and start creating again, we would love to see some of your work on here...possible..?... thanks for showing an interest..just making a spag bol now...not for the canvas...just supper..:eek:

gallerie9 May 22nd 2007 6:54 am

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Originally Posted by Bigbhudda69 (Post 4816066)
:eek:...Oh my prayers have been answered my own Art teacher...heaven..;)

I am getting some great advice and what you say about the layers and materials is spot on..can I use leaves, bark, etc...do I just PVA them on in layers or do it all at once..? what if I wanted to paint something on the canvas before applying the media...?

It hurts when you are away from something you enjoy doing so much..I hope you get your kiln real soon and start creating again, we would love to see some of your work on here...possible..?... thanks for showing an interest..just making a spag bol now...not for the canvas...just supper..:eek:

that gives interesting texture to LOL
Yes you can PVA is a teachers handy tool for doing lots of things especially as it dries clear and you can paint on top of it you can alco mix powder paint in to it and it creates some intersting colours you can make colours marble in it.
Another great way is painting it on to plastic or glass and then pealing it off to create surface added bits

silverchick May 22nd 2007 9:49 am

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Well Silverchick your faffing around sounds really nice, I am sure there will be small gift shops who would be interested in your work for selling on, that kind of thing is very popular, particularily if you give it a Spanish twist, I know what you mean about the states, I have pals in Atlanta and they are craft potty over there with fantastic supply shops everywhere..sounds like the WWW is the place for supplies...



Well thanks for the vote of confidence! It has spurred me on to actually do something when I get out there! There is a lovely little interior design shop in Villalonga, it was siesta when we were there but I had a good nose through the window and it was full of what his gingerness would call 'tat' but the sort of stuff I love! (a bit too much actually hense a major clear out before we leave!)
I might just do a few samples to take it, maybe ask for a sale or return basis, no shortage of terracotta pots to paint out there!!!:D:D

jdr May 22nd 2007 6:43 pm

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Originally Posted by silverchick (Post 4816875)
Well Silverchick your faffing around sounds really nice, I am sure there will be small gift shops who would be interested in your work for selling on, that kind of thing is very popular, particularily if you give it a Spanish twist, I know what you mean about the states, I have pals in Atlanta and they are craft potty over there with fantastic supply shops everywhere..sounds like the WWW is the place for supplies...



Well thanks for the vote of confidence! It has spurred me on to actually do something when I get out there! There is a lovely little interior design shop in Villalonga, it was siesta when we were there but I had a good nose through the window and it was full of what his gingerness would call 'tat' but the sort of stuff I love! (a bit too much actually hense a major clear out before we leave!)
I might just do a few samples to take it, maybe ask for a sale or return basis, no shortage of terracotta pots to paint out there!!!:D:D

They also paint roof tiles (not on the roof though) and sell them at the markets.
There is a Spanish guy near us who paints on panels he takes out of old wooden doors, they look really good also.

mikelincs May 22nd 2007 6:52 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4818183)
They also paint roof tiles (not on the roof though) and sell them at the markets.
There is a Spanish guy near us who paints on panels he takes out of old wooden doors, they look really good also.

There are some people who sell at car boots round here that make white tiles, small square type, into cards, they sell them decorated as Birthday cards using peel offs etc, and then sell them with a stand so they can be stood up. Nowhere to write on them, but they will personalise them as well.

jo-ann May 23rd 2007 4:38 am

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Originally Posted by Bigbhudda69 (Post 4816027)
Hi Jo-ann..I really did think there was a great deal of untapped talent on the forum and it seems so, I totally agree with you about meeting like minded people it is so enjoyable and so theraputic, I have not really tried watercolours yet, I have the brushes and paint but not the mindset yet, hence the textured approach, is it a club you run...do you show your work in exhibitions..how about dislaying some in the BE forum art gallery...?....:eek:

Hi Bigbhudda69, the group was initially set up 2 years ago by a few people and since then it has grown, we have all levels in the group, 1 guy teaches the basic techniques to new comers and the rest of us do our own thing, its good that we can comment and criticize on each others work so in that way we we are still learning, from each other, we have talked about having an exhibition but so far havent gotten around to it. The only problem with watercolour in spain is that you have to be careful where you hang the pictures because of the bright light which will fade them, oil paintings and acrylics dont have that problem.

gallerie9 May 23rd 2007 10:17 pm

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In about a year we intend to open the gallery and then a shop selling good art materials ......... Do the forum members think that it is needed ?, I have looked high and low for a good canvas suplier with out sucsess, I intend to get some via the Web from the UK for the time being.
Any opinions any one ???

Rosemary May 23rd 2007 10:33 pm

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Originally Posted by gallerie9 (Post 4824693)
In about a year we intend to open the gallery and then a shop selling good art materials ......... Do the forum members think that it is needed ?, I have looked high and low for a good canvas suplier with out sucsess, I intend to get some via the Web from the UK for the time being.
Any opinions any one ???

Great idea, especially if you supply other craft things as well. Only thing is that you will need to open loads of shops in different areas. Or you could add a mail order service too.

Best of luck

Rosemary

lost in spain May 24th 2007 2:20 am

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I have paint old wooden shutters, theres loads of ruins round our way and you can just lift these shutters from their frames. They are an ideal size to paint on, they often have interesting details on them, interesting aged metal catches and hooks. Some are a little over A4 size, I paint flowers on them, use muted colours as a background, and paint red and white roses, like old style tudor roses, and foliage. I age them by painting them over with wood stain, so they look old masterish...glaze wise not talent wise. They look good and suit old rustic style interiors. They make a great surface to paint on...

jo-ann May 24th 2007 4:12 am

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Originally Posted by gallerie9 (Post 4824693)
In about a year we intend to open the gallery and then a shop selling good art materials ......... Do the forum members think that it is needed ?, I have looked high and low for a good canvas suplier with out sucsess, I intend to get some via the Web from the UK for the time being.
Any opinions any one ???

Our art group would be very interested as watercolour paints in spain are very limited, very rare to see Daler Rowney or Cottman. Good quality watercolour paper would be great. Keep us updated you have lots of potential customers


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