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bil Feb 22nd 2011 9:44 pm

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9195777)
No, although there is plenty of right wing press in Spain it isnt patronising and condoscending about how people live their lives. Just scarily religious and fascist :rofl:

I also find the Guardian to be like Daily Mail (although slightly more liberal than the Mail). Always telling you what you should think, buy and be doing in your life, it's like brain washing!

Maybe it is a trait of the British middle classes, they dont like people who either are doing better than them, or live a very different life to them.


Good one. I think you are dead right, but I think it applies to a wider class basis, with working class people looking down on other W class people who try and better themselves.

Rotor Feb 23rd 2011 12:36 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 

Originally Posted by johnnyone (Post 9194580)
will you lot stop worrying about house prices, the weather, how terrible the UK is and defending why ypu live in Spain.

I have a place in the UK and Spain and love both countries. It's not a contest as to what's best.

It's about what suits you.

I`m with you on that one , Spain suits oldies and retiree`s on a low income as property is generally cheaper but it`s not the place to be if you have to work , if your comfortably well off you can choose where you live and at what time of year.

Spains roads are quiet because there bugger all happening in business ,when there`s tailbacks for miles on the N340 due to volume of traffic the the economy will be booming :thumbsup:(unless its because everyones leaving:eek:)

bil Feb 23rd 2011 12:41 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 9196225)
I`m with you on that one , Spain suits oldies and retiree`s on a low income as property is generally cheaper but it`s not the place to be if you have to work , if your comfortably well off you can choose where you live and at what time of year.

Spains roads are quiet because there bugger all happening in business ,when there`s tailbacks for miles on the N340 due to volume of traffic the the economy will be booming :thumbsup:(unless its because everyones leaving:eek:)

God bless early retirement!

There are butterflies in the garden (red admirals, no less) we are picking strawberries and the sky is perfectly blue with not a cloud in sight. I would consider myself blessed to have a day like this in mid summer in the UK.

whitelinen Feb 23rd 2011 12:55 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9195777)

Maybe it is a trait of the British middle classes, they dont like people who either are doing better than them, or live a very different life to them.


I remember reading that both you and Bil imagined that you were middle class, so are you describing yourself?

Bigger Jim Feb 23rd 2011 1:21 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 
[QUOTE=cricketman;9195777]I also find the Guardian to be like Daily Mail (although slightly more liberal than the Mail). Always telling you what you should think, buy and be doing in your life, it's like brain washing!
QUOTE]

Do you actually read any of these papers, other than occasionally? Most of the contributers here seem to delight in admitting total ignorance other than they wouldn't be seen dead reading the Daily Mail, which hardly seems to make them fair critics, in fact quite the reverse.

Not that the Mail needs more converts it seems to manage quite well in comparison with many of the other papers, who seem desperate to sign up paying readers of their on-line additions from the Times downwards.

I'm not saying you should read any of them but it would be nice to know where people stand and not that they only get their information from the BBC and Sky news who are equally as biased as the Newspapers.:D

Jim

Rotor Feb 23rd 2011 1:22 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9196233)
God bless early retirement!

There are butterflies in the garden (red admirals, no less) we are picking strawberries and the sky is perfectly blue with not a cloud in sight. I would consider myself blessed to have a day like this in mid summer in the UK.

I guess the Poncenby-Smyth's of this world will be relaxing in the
orangery at their Berkshire country mansion:rofl::rofl:

cricketman Feb 23rd 2011 1:39 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 
[QUOTE=Bigger Jim;9196317]

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 9195777)
I also find the Guardian to be like Daily Mail (although slightly more liberal than the Mail). Always telling you what you should think, buy and be doing in your life, it's like brain washing!
QUOTE]

Do you actually read any of these papers, other than occasionally? Most of the contributers here seem to delight in admitting total ignorance other than they wouldn't be seen dead reading the Daily Mail, which hardly seems to make them fair critics, in fact quite the reverse.

Not that the Mail needs more converts it seems to manage quite well in comparison with many of the other papers, who seem desperate to sign up paying readers of their on-line additions from the Times downwards.

I'm not saying you should read any of them but it would be nice to know where people stand and not that they only get their information from the BBC and Sky news who are equally as biased as the Newspapers.:D

Jim


British newspapers are particularly bad because they do not report the news, they are mainly full of lifestyle columns dressed up to appear as news. Even though I dont like the Guardian I read the online version of it (because it is the lesser of the evils) and the BBC.

In Spain I read almost predominently El Pais which is an excellent newspaper and rely on Cuatro for sport and La Sexta for the news. The left-wing press in Spain is excellent, while the right-way press is embarrasing!

Bigger Jim Feb 23rd 2011 2:05 am

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[QUOTE=cricketman;9196340]

Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 9196317)


British newspapers are particularly bad because they do not report the news, they are mainly full of lifestyle columns dressed up to appear as news. Even though I dont like the Guardian I read the online version of it (because it is the lesser of the evils) and the BBC!

I tend not to read the lifestyle columns also but in that case I skip them. I don't like the Guardian all that much either but this is because of my science bias and the Guardian has never been renowned for it science coverage and I much prefer the Telegraph. But to be fair I do read the "Mail" and enjoy the responses of the readers as unlike the Guardian they are not heavily censored if the paper doesn't agree with the reader comments.

So now we know where at least two of us stand.

Jim

agoreira Feb 23rd 2011 2:43 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 

Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 9195616)
We obviously should have moved 30 Kms up the coast to where you are Bil. Because commeth mid December we leg it back to the UK cause its far too cold and we can't do without our central heating. Come back again end of March and leg it back to UK end of June and back again in September.

We could stay in July and August with the aircon on but how stupid would that be. We know a lot who do so we leave it for the hordes from Madrid who fill the beaches and roads.

Each to his or her own, we reckon we get the best of it.

Jim

That all sounds good to me! ;)

bil Feb 23rd 2011 3:13 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 

Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 9196264)
I remember reading that both you and Bil imagined that you were middle class, so are you describing yourself?

I'll assume that was meant humourously?

I have always had the problem that I don't fit the classical stereotype. I'm aspirational and believe in education, which is a classic hallmark of MC. However I don't envy people in that way. I might look at someone who has something nice, and I'll say, 'Damn, but I'd like one of those', and I will go out, work and save for it. I don't have the spiteful envy that so many people seem to subcscibe to. If you have more than me, what of it? I learnt long ago that keeping up with the Joneses is a futile and wasteful exercise, and that no matter what you have or do, there is always going to be someone coming along that is faster, cleverer or richer than you. I like the company of intelligent, educated or knowledgeable people, because there's always a chance I might learn something, so I don't resent it if they know more than I do.

That 'don't give a shit' attitude has in the UK made me a few enemies, but hey, ¿Que me suda la polla?

JLFS Feb 23rd 2011 3:33 am

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Well I am gonna hold my hand up and confess.............I like the DM, I take it for what it is, a way of pssing an hour, sitting relaxing, the wife loves the puzzles pages..............:D

jimenato Feb 23rd 2011 4:53 am

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I quite like the DM as well - for two reasons; a) the website layout is probably the best of all the British onlines and b) it's good for research.

agoreira Feb 23rd 2011 4:57 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9196561)
I take it for what it is, a way of pssing an hour,

Think you missed out an "I" there, JLFS! ;)

JLFS Feb 23rd 2011 5:03 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 9196727)
Think you missed out an "I" there, JLFS! ;)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

nice one, well spotted.

jackytoo Feb 24th 2011 4:51 am

Re: Ah! The Daily Mail
 
Just been reading about the Middle East situation in the Mail (no apologies:D). As usual lots of comments from ex-pats. I often see comments like on this board about the UK, never go back, it's a shitehole, last person turn off the lights etc. I have often seen comments from people in Libya too. Now they are slamming the UK for not getting them home. These are people who normally post about how fortunate they are to earn good money and no tax yadda yadda. I wouldn't begrudge anyone getting assistance flying back to the UK but they should pay highly for it.


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