GOSSIP AND CHIT CHAT
Jun 12th 2013 | 3:19 am
#1802
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Re: Visa help.
I do wish the comments could be a little less emotional and a little more accurate .
People have the right to travel and spend their time anywhere if they want to and have the means to do so and are allowed entry into a country to do so. I object quite strongly to the label " illegal " immigrants for those Brits who chose to spend their winters in Goa. Would the writer of this comments please explain to me how someone who comes into the country with a passport and a legally issued Visa is an illegal immigrant?
There is of course a difference between being an immigrant and being a long stay visitor. There are many countries which actively encourage those who wish to stay long term to have long term Visas. It is not a crime to want to do this. It is quite normal in some places in the world. India does not chose to offer this type of stay and I FULLY ACCEPT the right of India to make this decision. But it does not make does not make it wrong to stay somewhere long term .
In addition there is a lack of clarity in the writers comments as to what is living? what is being resident? what is being a long term visitor? There is no immigration scheme as far as I know into India? no doubt someone will kindly point it out if there is. So if there is no immigration process into India how can anyone be described as an "illegal " immigrant when there is no such thing as a " legal " foreign non Indian immigrant.
for me the term " illegal " immigrant defines those people possibly without passports or identity papers who try to enter a country illegally and without crossing its borders officially. For example a drive from the Eurostar Train tunnel in Calais along the motorway to Belgium will give a very graphic picture of illegal immigrants. I do this journey regularly and it is quite disturbing to see the dark shadows of hundreds of people creeping along the fields at night trying to get access to the tunnel and the trains so as to enter the Uk illegally. So I agree a description of " illegal " immigrant is accurate in this instance. But to use this terminology for the long term Brits who come into Goa is incorrect and offensive.
People have the right to travel and spend their time anywhere if they want to and have the means to do so and are allowed entry into a country to do so. I object quite strongly to the label " illegal " immigrants for those Brits who chose to spend their winters in Goa. Would the writer of this comments please explain to me how someone who comes into the country with a passport and a legally issued Visa is an illegal immigrant?
There is of course a difference between being an immigrant and being a long stay visitor. There are many countries which actively encourage those who wish to stay long term to have long term Visas. It is not a crime to want to do this. It is quite normal in some places in the world. India does not chose to offer this type of stay and I FULLY ACCEPT the right of India to make this decision. But it does not make does not make it wrong to stay somewhere long term .
In addition there is a lack of clarity in the writers comments as to what is living? what is being resident? what is being a long term visitor? There is no immigration scheme as far as I know into India? no doubt someone will kindly point it out if there is. So if there is no immigration process into India how can anyone be described as an "illegal " immigrant when there is no such thing as a " legal " foreign non Indian immigrant.
for me the term " illegal " immigrant defines those people possibly without passports or identity papers who try to enter a country illegally and without crossing its borders officially. For example a drive from the Eurostar Train tunnel in Calais along the motorway to Belgium will give a very graphic picture of illegal immigrants. I do this journey regularly and it is quite disturbing to see the dark shadows of hundreds of people creeping along the fields at night trying to get access to the tunnel and the trains so as to enter the Uk illegally. So I agree a description of " illegal " immigrant is accurate in this instance. But to use this terminology for the long term Brits who come into Goa is incorrect and offensive.
Actually Erinsgirl, my own view is that your comments here are valid to this this thread - there is a vast difference between the term "illegal immigrant" and a person who enters a country via an official entry point with valid documentation given by that country allowing that person entry.
Such a person would only become an "illegal alien" should they remain in that country beyond the expiry date of a visa - I am not aware of any person on this forum who has remained in India beyond their visa expiry dates
( there is a difference between an 'illegal immigrant' and an 'illegal alien'....dependent upon the subject's mindset).
So for those who are seeking a visa to India..........you are not an 'illegal immigrant' or an 'illegal alien' if you are present in India within the valid dates of your visa.
Dread - x
Jun 12th 2013 | 4:12 am
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Re: GOSSIP AND CHIT CHAT
Jun 12th 2013 | 4:57 am
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Re: GOSSIP AND CHIT CHAT
From the wording it sounds like something amiss with the system..........but one never knows ........ hope it is restored soon, especially as I am told it was 90 rupees to the pound a couple of days ago.
Dread - x
Jun 12th 2013 | 5:36 am
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Re: Visa help.
was in reply to post 1251 referring to----
"pompous, smug, insulting, illiterate PIOs" (not those with spouse PIO cards such as Oddjob, but 'PIO's').
Not exactly polite was it?
Off above topic, but about VISAS,----- a large number of PIOs travel on tourist VISAS also those with 'spouse' PIO cards really have no intrinsic rights of their own.
Jun 12th 2013 | 6:29 am
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Re: Visa help.
I disagreed with most of Oddjob's posts but the quote you found "offensive"
was in reply to post 1251 referring to----
"pompous, smug, insulting, illiterate PIOs" (not those with spouse PIO cards such as Oddjob, but 'PIO's').
Not exactly polite was it?
Off above topic, but about VISAS,----- a large number of PIOs travel on tourist VISAS also those with 'spouse' PIO cards really have no intrinsic rights of their own.
was in reply to post 1251 referring to----
"pompous, smug, insulting, illiterate PIOs" (not those with spouse PIO cards such as Oddjob, but 'PIO's').
Not exactly polite was it?
Off above topic, but about VISAS,----- a large number of PIOs travel on tourist VISAS also those with 'spouse' PIO cards really have no intrinsic rights of their own.
Jun 12th 2013 | 6:32 am
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Re: Visa help.
I disagreed with most of Oddjob's posts but the quote you found "offensive"
was in reply to post 1251 referring to----
"pompous, smug, insulting, illiterate PIOs" (not those with spouse PIO cards such as Oddjob, but 'PIO's').
Not exactly polite was it?
Off above topic, but about VISAS,----- a large number of PIOs travel on tourist VISAS also those with 'spouse' PIO cards really have no intrinsic rights of their own.
was in reply to post 1251 referring to----
"pompous, smug, insulting, illiterate PIOs" (not those with spouse PIO cards such as Oddjob, but 'PIO's').
Not exactly polite was it?
Off above topic, but about VISAS,----- a large number of PIOs travel on tourist VISAS also those with 'spouse' PIO cards really have no intrinsic rights of their own.
Jun 12th 2013 | 6:47 pm
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Re: GOSSIP AND CHIT CHAT
1 GBP = 90.40 R/- in Calangute today, but only one money changer open, torrentiial rain has started again.
Managed to make a ICICI money2india transfer on Monday and received my rupees yesterday at about 89.50 to the pound.
I also received that notification about restriction on money2india service, thought it would be a short lived tech problem, no explanation.
Extremely inconvenient since I want to transfer more GBP into R/- while the rupee is this weak.
1 GBP = 91.4773 R/- on xe.com as I type
$1 = 58.3601, just got 57.50 R/- to the dollar changed in Calangute.
Managed to make a ICICI money2india transfer on Monday and received my rupees yesterday at about 89.50 to the pound.
I also received that notification about restriction on money2india service, thought it would be a short lived tech problem, no explanation.
Extremely inconvenient since I want to transfer more GBP into R/- while the rupee is this weak.
1 GBP = 91.4773 R/- on xe.com as I type
$1 = 58.3601, just got 57.50 R/- to the dollar changed in Calangute.
Jun 12th 2013 | 7:43 pm
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Re: Visa help.
I disagreed with most of Oddjob's posts but the quote you found "offensive"
was in reply to post 1251 referring to----
"pompous, smug, insulting, illiterate PIOs" (not those with spouse PIO cards such as Oddjob, but 'PIO's').
Not exactly polite was it?
Off above topic, but about VISAS,----- a large number of PIOs travel on tourist VISAS also those with 'spouse' PIO cards really have no intrinsic rights of their own.
was in reply to post 1251 referring to----
"pompous, smug, insulting, illiterate PIOs" (not those with spouse PIO cards such as Oddjob, but 'PIO's').
Not exactly polite was it?
Off above topic, but about VISAS,----- a large number of PIOs travel on tourist VISAS also those with 'spouse' PIO cards really have no intrinsic rights of their own.
You, for example, are most certainly not insulting or illiterate.
High horses can be fallen off, you know?
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Jun 12th 2013 | 7:58 pm
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Re: Visa help.
Yes, but you are always advising us to be accurate!!!!
Last edited by Bipat; Jun 12th 2013 at 8:04 pm.
Jun 13th 2013 | 2:24 am
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Re: GOSSIP AND CHIT CHAT
Apparently the Rupee hit an all time low against the dollar, I must get to the back tomorrow!!! 
I have added a Rupee conversion 'thingie' to the website now.... Currently showing 90.94Rs to the £ (if you can't see it on my website, you might have to hit ctrl-f5 as I've just updated lots.... Hope it's useful
http://www.poipleshadow.com/Goa-Information.htm
I have added a Rupee conversion 'thingie' to the website now.... Currently showing 90.94Rs to the £ (if you can't see it on my website, you might have to hit ctrl-f5 as I've just updated lots.... Hope it's useful
http://www.poipleshadow.com/Goa-Information.htm
Jun 15th 2013 | 1:57 am
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Re: GOSSIP AND CHIT CHAT
I have recently had dental work done here in the UK and i have to have a bridge which involves having an implant.The implant would be where they extracted a molar 3 months ago. My dentist here in London said he would insert one implant and create a bridge because my previous bridge was anchored to the molar which gave up the ghost, so-to-speak ! So it would be an implant with a four or five tooth bridge and he said it would cost me £2000. Even though i am a pensioner this sort of dental work does come under the NHS scanner. i think its expensive.Does any one know how much an implant would cost in Goa and where in the Calingut area i would be best served ? My dentist in Goa has always ben Mrs.Lewande near Our Lady of the Intersection - think its called St.Anthonies ?
Jun 15th 2013 | 3:24 am
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From: Noni the Indian Goan Beach Mulberry
Re: GOSSIP AND CHIT CHAT
I have recently had dental work done here in the UK and i have to have a bridge which involves having an implant.The implant would be where they extracted a molar 3 months ago. My dentist here in London said he would insert one implant and create a bridge because my previous bridge was anchored to the molar which gave up the ghost, so-to-speak ! So it would be an implant with a four or five tooth bridge and he said it would cost me £2000. Even though i am a pensioner this sort of dental work does come under the NHS scanner. i think its expensive.Does any one know how much an implant would cost in Goa and where in the Calingut area i would be best served ? My dentist in Goa has always ben Mrs.Lewande near Our Lady of the Intersection - think its called St.Anthonies ?
My daughter works in a private dental hospital at home, she costed everything I had done there (2 years ago) would have cost well over £10K here. Would recomment Dr. Aqua to anybody. He is about Newtons.
