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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 12232384)
You believed what they wrote on the bus, didn't you?
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 12232384)
You believed what they wrote on the bus, didn't you?
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 12232384)
You believed what they wrote on the bus, didn't you?
Back on the topic of the snap election, the Tories seem like the only viable option to vote for by having a united party. Labour still suffers from multiple issues including infighting amongst hardcore Corbynites/Momentum and progressive Blairite types, constant anti-Semitic scandals and a leader who 'might be a nice bloke' but lacks the charisma and conviction of a statesman. A man who has been on the sidelines for decades in a comfortable Labour seat attending rallies and protests but never leading. Only person worse for the job would be to elect Diane Abbott (lol) Lib Dems, still a poor reputation from their coalition government with the Tories. United on one topic (Brexit) but lack any other notable policies or strengths. UKIP, since Farage leaving, left a leadership black hole with Paul Nuttall performing miserably. With Brexit on the way and May taking on a tough stance in negotiations, many UKIP voters (who traditionally would be Tory Eurosceptics) will go back to voting Blue. |
Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by ExpatAl
(Post 12232476)
I've never understood all the furore surrounding the bus and the £350mil. The phrase 'let's fund our NHS instead' is purely suggestive ...
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by dominoman
(Post 12232355)
They're the ones on the Titanic heading straight towards the iceberg. Britain is already on board the lifeboat.
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by weasel decentral
(Post 12232508)
I'm neutral either way, just curious what you believe the iceberg is, that is going to sink Europe?
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 12232504)
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Even if you take the more accurate figure of around £175 million per week, that's still something the NHS would greatly appreciate. Don't fall into the trap of attacking the messenger rather than the real meaning of the message.
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 12232504)
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by ExpatAl
(Post 12232514)
Lol no need to get shirty. It was not a pledge. It did not say 'We will give our NHS £350mil'. I refuse to believe that anybody would believe that statement wholeheartedly, it's another argument by Remainers to patronise Leave voters that they were misled
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
(Post 12232516)
Even if you take the more accurate figure of around £175 million per week, that's still something the NHS would greatly appreciate. Don't fall into the trap of attacking the messenger rather than the real meaning of the message.
Brexit will not save us any money. It will cost us money. The harder it is, the most it will cost. Will believe otherwise when the money shows up, that is not just being syphoned off of more national debt used to pay for brexit itself. |
Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by ExpatAl
(Post 12232514)
Lol no need to get shirty. It was not a pledge. It did not say 'We will give our NHS £350mil'. I refuse to believe that anybody would believe that statement wholeheartedly, it's another argument by Remainers to patronise Leave voters that they were misled
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by ExpatAl
(Post 12232514)
Lol no need to get shirty. It was not a pledge. It did not say 'We will give our NHS £350mil'. I refuse to believe that anybody would believe that statement wholeheartedly, it's another argument by Remainers to patronise Leave voters that they were misled
In a ref where ONLY 600k people needed to change their minds, some people is too many... |
Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by ExpatAl
(Post 12232514)
Lol no need to get shirty. It was not a pledge...
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Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by ExpatAl
(Post 12232514)
Lol no need to get shirty. It was not a pledge. It did not say 'We will give our NHS £350mil'. I refuse to believe that anybody would believe that statement wholeheartedly, it's another argument by Remainers to patronise Leave voters that they were misled
Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
(Post 12232516)
Even if you take the more accurate figure of around £175 million per week, that's still something the NHS would greatly appreciate. Don't fall into the trap of attacking the messenger rather than the real meaning of the message.
If you both promise that you didn't believe it - that's fine - but many, many people did and accepted it as fact. Denying that is just downright stupid....which then makes the ability to be truthful in your original promise extremely suspect. |
Re: Snap Election 8 June!
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12232551)
Why it's so hard to accept is beyond me.
If you both promise that you didn't believe it - that's fine - but many, many people did and accepted it as fact. Denying that is just downright stupid....which then makes the ability to be truthful in your original promise extremely suspect. |
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