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shiraz1 Sep 8th 2014 2:16 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 
Be interesting to see if expat Brits get a vote on an EU referendum (which wouldn't happen in 2017 if Scotland votes for independence, even if Cameron got re-elected)

shiraz1 Sep 8th 2014 2:18 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 
On immigrants in Scotland you cannot extrapolate from English figures, you can't extrapolate from London to Newcastle similarly.

Largest group is 55,000 Poles

Scotland's immigrant population doubles in a decade

dunroving Sep 8th 2014 2:28 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 
Even if you don't have a vote, you can indicate what you would vote in the BE poll on the MBTTUK forum.

busybee2 Sep 8th 2014 5:55 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by mikewot (Post 11364933)
But Wee Eck is the tip of the spear, the edge of the knife, so of course they will ask/query/question/highlight him.

Personally my memories of him go back to early SNP times "It's Scotlands Oil", having lived up there the Shetlanders have their own view on that.

As I say my heart says Yes but intellectually, especially on the money side, things just don't add up. In the video clip that was posted Stewart Hosie talks about CU as inevitable, otherwise there will be 100's of 1000's of English jobs lost. I'm totally failing to see where the items currently purchased in Scotland which are produced in England would totally dry up. If Scots want them they'll buy from somewhere, if English companies want to sell they'll find markets. It's yet more political scaremongering which serves only to dilute any faith or trust in politicos to tell the truth.

He also spoke about the pound being a shared asset (Eck talks about the English cannot decide not to let Scotland have the pound failing to note that it's the UK's pound and he wants to leave the UK), hence CU is inevitable. For me if you're going to divorce then you don't keep running the joint bank account.

Anyway would it make me want to go back home more quickly? No. Things for the average Scot are not going to change much, particularly outside of the Central Belt. The majority of investment and spending will continue to be spent there, screw the rest of the country. Aberdeen has desperately needed a bypass for at least 25 years, this will improve trade going further North. They have ploughed 100's of millions into running the M74 into the very centre of Glasgow and into massive road improvement schemes around Cumbernauld. Further North you can forget it, not happening.

they have already started to build the aberdeen bypass.

busybee2 Sep 8th 2014 5:55 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 11396618)
Even if you don't have a vote, you can indicate what you would vote in the BE poll on the MBTTUK forum.

i have a voting slip, but as not resident there at the present time cannot use it.

mikewot Sep 8th 2014 3:38 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by busybee2 (Post 11396854)
they have already started to build the aberdeen bypass.

Uuummm my parents still live there and they're still squabbling about the route and who will pay.

scrubbedexpat141 Sep 8th 2014 4:16 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 
Being half-Scottish would I be allowed to vote?

shiraz1 Sep 8th 2014 4:33 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11397511)
Being half-Scottish would I be allowed to vote?

As with all elections it depends where you reside.
The rules are the same as for Parliamentary elections with the addition of 16 and 17 year olds.

scrubbedexpat141 Sep 8th 2014 5:10 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by shiraz1 (Post 11397522)
As with all elections it depends where you reside.
The rules are the same as for Parliamentary elections with the addition of 16 and 17 year olds.

Understood, so you have to be 'Scottish' by some manner and in Scotland?

Fair enough, guess it affects them the most.

shiva Sep 8th 2014 5:29 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11397535)
Understood, so you have to be 'Scottish' by some manner and in Scotland?

Fair enough, guess it affects them the most.

you must be resident.

I'm not a huge fan of the way its been done but as I have zero way of proving I'm Scottish beyond my birth certificate and the set up to see 5 million of those before issuing voter registrations would have been a disaster. It would also have left out long term English, welsh and so on residents who should also have a vote.

Its a bit messy but it is what it is.
I imagine that given how close it now is that there will be a world of shit flying around about it soon and possibly for years.

mikewot Sep 8th 2014 5:48 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 11397540)
I imagine that given how close it now is that there will be a world of shit flying around about it soon and possibly for years.

A neverendum, like Quebec.
BBC News - Neverendum referendum: Voting on independence, Quebec-style

scrubbedexpat141 Sep 8th 2014 6:00 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 11397540)
you must be resident.

I'm not a huge fan of the way its been done but as I have zero way of proving I'm Scottish beyond my birth certificate and the set up to see 5 million of those before issuing voter registrations would have been a disaster. It would also have left out long term English, welsh and so on residents who should also have a vote.

Its a bit messy but it is what it is.
I imagine that given how close it now is that there will be a world of shit flying around about it soon and possibly for years.

Understood.

Interesting. Opinion polls look very close but I think they No campaign will win it by a bigger margin than anyone thinks.

People will stand at the ballot or with a slip in their hand and not be able to forget that Salmond is a massive fat wanker.

Inselaffen Sep 8th 2014 6:08 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 
just hoping Cameron doesn't offer too many sweetners to win the no vote.

mikewot Sep 8th 2014 6:25 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 
Scotland is just the best place to live - 27 reasons why. Number 25 does it for me, such class :)

busybee2 Sep 8th 2014 6:53 pm

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11397511)
Being half-Scottish would I be allowed to vote?

no not unless you are resident there, as i have a voting paper there but as not in the country you technically are not allowed.


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