This was posted on the Guardian news feed:

Social research and polling expert Rachel Ormiston at ScotCen has contacted my colleague Severin Carrell to point out that only 14 people aged 16 and 17 were polled by Lord Ashcroft, a very small sample that makes the 71% yes vote figure quite unreliable, in her view. It’s certainly worth bearing in mind when looking at the figures – and before making judgments about younger v older voters.

I was surprised by the huge Yes vote among the 16-17 as the next cohort (university age students) voted No. It didn't make sense unless one argues there's decisive numbers of English students at Scottish universities that tipped the balance.

But if the Guardian comment is correct, the sample size and thus Ashcroft's entire polling analysis needs to be analysed more closely. No doubt there will be more polling breakdowns and analysis in the next few days to give us a better picture.

And also interesting: (from the Guardian)

After his defeat in Thursday’s independence referendum, Alex Salmond is facing a significant backlash after barring several newspapers and trying to handpick other reporters for his post-referendum press conference at his official residence, Bute House.

The Scottish government - which is back in charge of the first minister’s official business now the referendum is over, has decided to exclude Scottish political staff based at Holyrood from three newspapers, the Daily Telegraph, the Daily Mail and the Express from his post-independence referendum.

Salmond’s advisers also sought to hand-pick the journalist who represents the Guardian at that event. The Guardian has refused to attend.

The siren call of the history books seems always to have propelled him.

Seriously? Sturgeon replaces Salmon?

it does sound ropey, that said there is a huge amount of english students in scotland so i wouldnt be surprised in any way by that one

I'm not a seafood eater, so my views on this are purely shellfish.

Sounds a bit fishy to me. Then again it may be a red herring.

But they have always been codding political sharks.

As SDP leader she would be a ray full of...err...stings...well...never mind. The SDP is certainly between a roach and a hard plaice when it comes to fishing for a new leader and landing the Sturgeon is the most obvious selection even if many outside the party view her as a right ol' tench.

Please tell me that's your auto correct

Well I was wrong.
There is trouble, in George sq Glasgow

The unionists are throwing nazi salutes, singing anti catholic songs and chanting engerland and allegedly burning saltines
Lovely bunch

We might be the first country where the wining side riot.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...517846&fref=nf

Thats an unfortunaae side of glasgow 'politics'. Scum on both sides of the sectarian divide.

Rule Britannia and Nazi salutes.

Weegie neds go looking for trouble! In other news if you stand in the rain you'll get wet.

The great Holyroodologist, Ethos82, does not even know what party is running Scotland ?

High horse? Not in the least. Just pointing out that the idea of Scots being used to anti-Scottish rhetoric was bollocks

That said, there are probably quite a few nationalist Scots who like to *think* that endless anti-Scottish rhetoric is directed at them from across the border, and it's always suited the SNP to encourage that sort of delusion and to play the victim card at every opportunity.

Of course they're mentally ill, they are Weegie Neds, no need to ask their mental condition as they are naturally stark staring bonkers. I suspect this incident is a lot more to do with the sectarianism which is rife on the West coast, especially Glasgow. This is especially prevalent amongst protestants as it is a lot easier to say "**** the pope" than it is to say "**** the moderator of the general assembly of the church of scotland".