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Old Jul 10th 2013 | 2:40 am
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And post it on a public form so the venue gets into trouble?
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Old Jul 10th 2013 | 11:32 pm
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Been to LuLu, I think everyone is on drugs, talk about watching paint dry!!
 
Old Jul 13th 2013 | 6:30 pm
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In case it's of use to anyone

http://www.thenational.ae/business/i...during-ramadan
 
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Something a bit wrong about reporting your own company to the MoL though, no?
 
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Something a bit wrong about reporting your own company to the MoL though, no?
Why? Not if you are being mistreated. Your call.
 
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Why? Not if you are being mistreated. Your call.
Toughie.

Problem is I was in the office until gone 7pm on the first day of Ramadan, I'm too busy to leave at 3pm every day, I just disagree that it's completely not allowed in this office.

Second issue is you just look like you want a month of early finishes and to slack off.

But, you're probably about to say / think that I can't moan if I won't do anything about it so hey ho.
 
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Toughie.

Problem is I was in the office until gone 7pm on the first day of Ramadan, I'm too busy to leave at 3pm every day, I just disagree that it's completely not allowed in this office.

Second issue is you just look like you want a month of early finishes and to slack off.

But, you're probably about to say / think that I can't moan if I won't do anything about it so hey ho.

The difference is that you have a career and want to get on. Consider however, the poorly paid admins or tea boys etc who lose out in this situation.
 
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Originally Posted by Meow
The difference is that you have a career and want to get on. Consider however, the poorly paid admins or tea boys etc who lose out in this situation.
Indeed, but if they aren't Muslim then it's just another working day / month.

That's what we get told anyway..."you're not Muslim, why should you work less hours?"
 
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Indeed, but if they aren't Muslim then it's just another working day / month.

That's what we get told anyway..."you're not Muslim, why should you work less hours?"

Are we going around in circles here? The law states that shorter hours apply to all, so everyone is entitled to a shorter working day, whether fasting or not. What the employer says should be irrelevant as the law applies to all (non-government) employees.

BTW UAE Labour Law does not apply to domestic staff. Or 'domestic servant' as their visas say.
 
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Are we going around in circles here?
All I did was play devils advocate, it's not always as simple as waving the law in your bosses face; you're potentially just marking your card.
 
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All I did was play devils advocate, it's not always as simple as waving the law in your bosses face; you're potentially just marking your card.
Yes, but that doesn't make it right.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what is right - for others as well as just for yourself.
 
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Yes, but that doesn't make it right.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what is right - for others as well as just for yourself.
Of course not. Frankly, I think we should use everyday as an afternoon for team building at Sega Republic.
 
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My guys Muslim, Christian or satanists all have 6 hours a day scheduled. Any driver, Tea boy etc who works more than that will get overtime. Sales staff (As Scamp is) who work extra hours to get a deal are reimbursed by the fact the extra hours worked generated them a deal and more bonus.
 
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My guys Muslim, Christian or satanists all have 6 hours a day scheduled. Any driver, Tea boy etc who works more than that will get overtime. Sales staff (As Scamp is) who work extra hours to get a deal are reimbursed by the fact the extra hours worked generated them a deal and more bonus.

In my view that's as it should be. Anyone on commission can choose what they do and if you are in a well-paid senior role you use common sense.

For those of us who are self-employed, life goes on as normal. *strains to hear a lone violin*
 
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In my view that's as it should be. Anyone on commission can choose what they do and if you are in a well-paid senior role you use common sense.

For those of us who are self-employed, life goes on as normal. *strains to hear a lone violin*
It's all irrelevant for me. I have a promotion to get.
 


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