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Old Apr 2nd 2014, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by Millhouse View Post
But pedophiles with computers packed full of porn and sacks of proof against them have no place in this world. They are less useful that wasps.
Odds are that they exist among the ranks of people involved in important scientific and medical research (among many other crucial lines of work). And since the evidence seems to be that their sexual preferences - like those of all of us - are decided by biological processes over which they have no control, I'm not sure what killing them is supposed to achieve. Far better to get them to cooperate in studies that will help us better understand how the human brain works.
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Originally Posted by Eeyore View Post
Odds are that they exist among the ranks of people involved in important scientific and medical research (among many other crucial lines of work). And since the evidence seems to be that their sexual preferences - like those of all of us - are decided by biological processes over which they have no control, I'm not sure what killing them is supposed to achieve. Far better to get them to cooperate in studies that will help us better understand how the human brain works.
Pedophilia isn't a sexual preference per se though, it's a fetish. Biology would determine whether someone is gay, straight or bi, not whether they like people who are tall, small, old, young, fat, thin or someone who'll hang upside down and kick them in the nuts.

Castration rather than death is arguably the better way to deal with pedo's.
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Old Apr 2nd 2014, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by the_red_sheep View Post
Pedophilia isn't a sexual preference per se though, it's a fetish
It's a difference in wiring in the brain. Paedophiles can't help their feelings any more than straight, gay or bi people can.
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Originally Posted by Eeyore View Post
It's a difference in wiring in the brain. Paedophiles can't help their feelings any more than straight, gay or bi people can.
On that basis, we'll be letting them have civil partnerships with the kids in 80 years time and marriage about 15 years after that.
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Originally Posted by Eeyore View Post
It's a difference in wiring in the brain. Paedophiles can't help their feelings any more than straight, gay or bi people can.
I think that’s very debatable, I’d suggest that it’s much more likely to be a learned behaviour picked up at the time of the individuals sexual maturity. Sexual preference, yes is in most cases biologically determined, whether someone is a paedophile, or is into necrophilia or bestiality is not.
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Originally Posted by Millhouse View Post
On that basis, we'll be letting them have civil partnerships with the kids in 80 years time and marriage about 15 years after that.
Like they do now with old men and young girls in certain countries not so very far from here? Maybe the Middle East is more forward thinking than we give it credit for.
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Old Apr 2nd 2014, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by the_red_sheep View Post
I think that’s very debatable
Not really. This is actually being studied by proper scientists, not lynch mobs, and the evidence is pointing clearly towards paedophilia being linked with brain structure and function.

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Originally Posted by Eeyore View Post
Not really. This is actually being studied by proper scientists, not lynch mobs, and the evidence is pointing clearly towards paedophilia being linked with brain structure and function.
that's good then. We can develop a screening test and kill them before they offend.
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Originally Posted by Norm_uk View Post
Which Christians have to accept since their founder also did. Jesus never renounced the Old Testament and said heaven and earth will pass before one word of it passes. He also said he completes of fulfils it.

Given many Christians actually follow Paul's doctrines over Christ's though we see most denominations pick and choose. In both cases capital punishment for certain crimes seem to be acceptable but not mandatory.

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In the Christianityn I was raised with, the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament. Whereas god in the later was a genocidal tribalist socipath, the former is one of compassion and pacifism.
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In the Christianityn I was raised with, the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament. Whereas god in the later was a genocidal tribalist socipath, the former is one of compassion and pacifism.
I've never quite understood this. Both testaments form The Bible and are the basis of Christianity, so how can a Christian just pick the bits they want? If the Ten Commandments are in, isn't Leviticus too?
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how can a Christian just pick the bits they want?
Isn't that the whole point of religion?
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Isn't that the whole point of religion?
The point is control of the masses, but they do seem to pick the bits they fancy at any given time.
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The point is control of the masses, but they do seem to pick the bits they fancy at any given time.
I think that's the only way religion can survive in these modern times.

I've got friends who are 'Christian' but accept the big bang theory...

You have to adjust to be able to keep subscribing to a religion because the overwhelming evidence is stacked against you.

This flawed logic, I actually find quite tolerable and almost endearing. If someone takes certain values from something I find pointless and it makes them happy / a better human / nicer, then so be it. If it provides some comfort, then who cares.

The problem with the extremists of any religion is their inability to see compromise and beyond all of the complicated contradictions.
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I think that's the only way religion can survive in these modern times.

I've got friends who are 'Christian' but accept the big bang theory...

You have to adjust to be able to keep subscribing to a religion because the overwhelming evidence is stacked against you.

This flawed logic, I actually find quite tolerable and almost endearing. If someone takes certain values from something I find pointless and it makes them happy / a better human / nicer, then so be it. If it provides some comfort, then who cares.

The problem with the extremists of any religion is their inability to see compromise and beyond all of the complicated contradictions.
This is quite true.
I know several Mormon families and without exception they make the perfect neighbors.
I don't believe theirs or traditional Christian religion at all, but we get along just fine.
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