Ear Piercing

Old Aug 21st 2013, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by shiva View Post
what can you do?

errrr, how about not following a barbaric tradition based in a time of no soap and clean water, both of which trump any so called medical justification.
but that's exactly my point mate. Customs are not based on any form of justifications.
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Old Aug 21st 2013, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper View Post
but that's exactly my point mate. Customs are not based on any form of justifications.
Most customs are based on justifications which were valid when the custom came about. Not eating pork, male circumcision, clinking glasses when saying "Cheers", being permitted to take 4 wives, keeping thy hand out of plackets...
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Old Aug 21st 2013, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
Most customs are based on justifications which were valid when the custom came about. Not eating pork, male circumcision, clinking glasses when saying "Cheers", being permitted to take 4 wives, keeping thy hand out of plackets...
Yes, good point, what I meant to say was that most customs today, since it does not make any sense to keep on doing them.
But all these customs would have been called common practice back then right? They evolved into customs, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper View Post
Yes, good point, what I meant to say was that most customs today.
But all these cust
Ah, fair enough.

Cust? I could murder a trifle right now.
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Old Aug 21st 2013, 12:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
Ah, fair enough.

Cust? I could murder a trifle right now.

Shrimp cocktail for me right now please, and I have no idea why!
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Old Aug 21st 2013, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper View Post
but that's exactly my point mate. Customs are not based on any form of justifications.
my point being they no longer need to be done just by dint of being a custom
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
Most customs are based on justifications which were valid when the custom came about. Not eating pork, male circumcision, clinking glasses when saying "Cheers", being permitted to take 4 wives, keeping thy hand out of plackets...
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I'd be livid! If i had a baby and if I had a husband and he took her off and had holes put in her ears at such a young age without my permission there would be hell to pay! You are absolutely right to be pissed off.

I feinted having my ears pierced, it bloody hurt, why would you do that to a baby?
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Originally Posted by Brains1983 View Post
I read that they expect a similar demand to Germany in 06 / 7 applicants per ticket. However I also expect that most foreigners are going to apply for Rio / SP and Braslia (not sure offhand if Recife is hosting, if so - them aswell). Curitiba and Porto Alegre will attract Argentina and German fans I would image.

June will be fine tempwise, warmer than Scotland that's for sure!

I'm heading off there in a couple weeks - 3 weeks of doing nothing and since I'm working my notice - the blackberry is staying on my desk!
looks like I may be in Curitiba, Rio and Porto Alegre next year after all. Money's left my account...but no contact from FIFA
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Originally Posted by Brains1983 View Post
Had a bit of an argument with the wife last night, she had our daughters ears pierced at the hospital. Young Martina is not yet 3 months old.

Wife tells me this is normal in Brazil while I am I of the opinion that 3 months is far too young.

Am I right to be pissed off or am I in the wrong on this?
Annoyed for not consulting you yes, i have a daughter and her ears were pierced at 2 months, it was a joint decision and the reason for me was first and foremost it is cultural thing and secondly that they will not remember the pain as they do when they are older. I did however use emla cream on her ears so that they were numb
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Originally Posted by Norm_uk View Post
Sounds like people who have their foreskins cut off as infants - they rarely see what the problem is.

Body modification, should be left until a child is old enough to know what it actually entails. In the case of ear piercing I would suggest sometime in the mid teenage years for most. For other more invasion modifications it should be the same as elective surgery - an adult decision.

Custom or belief is no longer a valid excuse for meddling with young people's bodies.

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No shit, Sherlock! Meanwhile the is a 600 year gap in behavior.
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Old Nov 5th 2013, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by saudiflares View Post
looks like I may be in Curitiba, Rio and Porto Alegre next year after all. Money's left my account...but no contact from FIFA
I had an email from FIFA a few days ago saying they have delayed the deadline for finding out about it until the 10th November (was initially the 5th November), something to do with the Brazilian authorities supervising the draw.

I just logged into several of my applications and they all still say pending which is better than rejected!

Curitiba was the 3rd most popular venue which I found surprising, I would have thought the more common tourist cities like Belo Horizonte / Natal / Recife would have been more popular.
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Originally Posted by Brains1983 View Post
I had an email from FIFA a few days ago saying they have delayed the deadline for finding out about it until the 10th November (was initially the 5th November), something to do with the Brazilian authorities supervising the draw.

I just logged into several of my applications and they all still say pending which is better than rejected!

Curitiba was the 3rd most popular venue which I found surprising, I would have thought the more common tourist cities like Belo Horizonte / Natal / Recife would have been more popular.
yeah mine says pending...but money has left my VISA account to Fifa Zurich which is promising (notwithstanding some monumental cock up)

I may show FIFA some support and go and take eldest to watch the U-17s in Abu Dhabi this alvo
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Originally Posted by saudiflares View Post
yeah mine says pending...but money has left my VISA account to Fifa Zurich which is promising (notwithstanding some monumental cock up)

I may show FIFA some support and go and take eldest to watch the U-17s in Abu Dhabi this alvo
I just checked ADCB online and there is an Authorisation Request for 2,750.15 AED (near as damn it to the 720 USD + fee for the tickets!).

Promising indeed! Now I just have to hope that my other applications aren't all approved, otherwise we'll be having a very quiet November...
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Old Nov 5th 2013, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by Norm_uk View Post
Explain the custom if infant circumcision or female circumcision in certain cultures but not others?

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Male circumcision: hot, arid countries = lack of water = difficulty in washing = removal of dirt traps is a good idea
Female circumcision: control of females' sexuality by weak males

That's an educated guess.
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