being a pedant again, it can only be a biological child to one of the couple!

Its already been done, BM...

And its proven that divorces between homosexual couples are rare, whereas the numbers for hetero's are off the charts.....

Excellent ... now can you answer this please

Case number 1

lets say that a man and a woman are in a relation (love or what ever but not marrige)

question 1 .. if they have sex is it illegal by the law in europ?

question 2 .. if it is legal govern by the freedom can they have kids this way with out marrige?

You arent a pedant, you're just extremely anal........

so you think a woman can have by the help of the lap a child without a man???

is that true???

[QUOTE=Beard Man;6374291]Excellent ... now can you answer this please

Case number 1

lets say that a man and a woman are in a relation (love or what ever but not marrige)[QUOTE]

question 1 .. NO

question 2 .. YES[/

so in your point of view marrige is comitment to each other ?? right??


ok can you please hold on and follow the discussion with others if you don't mind?

What are you talking about?
Not everyone is a holy roller.People get married for one reason and one reason only.Not because they love God,because they love each other and want to spend their lives together.
People have children all the time.It has nothing to do with marriage.

[QUOTE=ScotsExpat;6374298][QUOTE=Beard Man;6374291]Excellent ... now can you answer this please

Case number 1

lets say that a man and a woman are in a relation (love or what ever but not marrige)

very intersting ..thanks for the direct answers.

Case number 1

Question 1 ... if a married athesit man had sex with another woman ... is it illegal by the law of europ? or is it allowed?

Question 2 ... if a married athesit man is not suppost to have sex outside his civil marrige ... who is stopping him??

[QUOTE=ScotsExpat;6374298][QUOTE=Beard Man;6374291]Excellent ... now can you answer this please

Case number 1

lets say that a man and a woman are in a relation (love or what ever but not marrige) very intersting ..thanks for the direct answers.

Case number 2

Question 1 ... if a married athesit man had sex with another woman ... is it illegal by the law of europ? or is it allowed?

Question 2 ... if a married athesit man is not suppost to have sex outside his civil marrige ... who is stopping him??

[QUOTE=Beard Man;6374314][QUOTE=ScotsExpat;6374298]
there are no restrictions on this except if that person is a close family relative.

however it can be legal grounds for a divorce.

please follow the sequence of my questions and you will come to know what i mean...

today i feel good about this discussion because so far.. it is based on respect and being honest and trying to understand each other.

[QUOTE=Beard Man;6374314][QUOTE=ScotsExpat;6374298] Q1 - Legally allowed, but grounds for divorce

Q2 - Himself

I would suggest that married Europeans are more likely to be more faithfull to their partners than couples from many other areas of the world because their marriages are founded on love, not on politically/financially motivated family arrangements.

[QUOTE=ScotsExpat;6374332][QUOTE=Beard Man;6374314] when you make the commitment of marriage it is because you have made the decision that the person is the only one you want.There shouldnt be the need to want to sleep with someone else.