The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
Jan 19th 2009, 7:16 am
#106
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Re: The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
Yeah but the 97 vote was not for independance, totally different, although do you think it would go though and the SNP have the balls to actually do it? I think Salmon has given slightly confliciting views and will see how the tide is in a few years...
At least then we wont have to put in any token Scots, Welsh or NIrish in the 2012 Olympic footy team
At least then we wont have to put in any token Scots, Welsh or NIrish in the 2012 Olympic footy team
will they do what they said they'd do......who knows they are politicians so......
if they dont though then they lose any credibility they have
what would the result be....who knows, a lot will depend on how scotland recovers from the big crunch and whether the SNP get or deserve any credit for any recovery
Jan 19th 2009, 7:21 am
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Why dotn we have a referendum, if it is truley what people wan then let them get on with it...
I am thinking what would be different, humm, less medals in the olympics, no less whinging, more whinging, dunno - lets devolve the union - oh no that would mean years of endless Tory rule tho
I am thinking what would be different, humm, less medals in the olympics, no less whinging, more whinging, dunno - lets devolve the union - oh no that would mean years of endless Tory rule tho
Jan 19th 2009, 7:44 am
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Re: The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
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I did mention the Irish beforehand, as sort of pre dating the war, as they have been coming over stealing our jobs and greening the pure white blood lines of the english for the last couple of centuries
And yes that is absolutely correct they have had to do the crapy jobs, with pathetic pay, pay tax and suffer lots of abuse...
You forgot to mention the Aussies and Kiwis doing the really important work,pulling the pints.
I did mention the Irish beforehand, as sort of pre dating the war, as they have been coming over stealing our jobs and greening the pure white blood lines of the english for the last couple of centuries
And yes that is absolutely correct they have had to do the crapy jobs, with pathetic pay, pay tax and suffer lots of abuse...
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Jan 19th 2009, 9:30 am
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Re: The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
Jan 19th 2009, 10:01 am
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Stages at both Le Tour and the Giro is not to be sniffed at, he looks like a taller and british abduojaperof - i used to love that guy with his literal tree trunk thighs anxd crazy ass sprint technique...
Jan 19th 2009, 10:10 am
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Re: The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
What concerns me is that some idiots will not like the idea and might even start fighting over it...keep in mind a good number of Scots are fiercely loyal to Britain and a good number of English are still of the mind that imperialism is a good thing.
Could be a big bloody mess. Hope I don't live to see it.
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Jan 19th 2009, 10:25 am
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Re: The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
Oxford economic report (http://www.oef.com/Free/pdfs/ukmpubfinfeat(jul).pdf) shows that 5 English regions are beneficiaries doing better than Scotland.
Unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that English and Welsh pensioners and students are worse off in general that Scottish pensioners and students because the government is crap.
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Jan 19th 2009, 10:36 am
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Re: The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
Well, the English should get their own national devolved parliament and probably sit somewhere in the English midlands or central part of the country, say, in Birmingham or Manchester. Westminster parliament doesn't really want it...that is why they tried to force regional assemblies, which people did not want.
UK MPs sitting in the Westminster parliament would then only discuss reserved issues, such as foreign affairs, national economy, defence etc, while the devolved English national parliament would cover health, education, the law etc etc. By this means students and pensioners would get more attention and the health of English people better looked after.
Also, the devolved parliament, as in Scotland, would be unicameral (only one house)...so legislation can become law within a year..so things actually get done !!
The people of England should 'seize the day' and could then stop complaining about how the Welsh and Scots look after their citizens.
Jan 19th 2009, 10:55 am
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Despite the obvious flaws and problems with the House of Lords, without the upper house, I dread to think what draconian laws the government could have pushed through parliament.
Jan 19th 2009, 5:26 pm
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Agreed...but I was talking about devolved parliaments (with one house) only and that also have proportional representation, which greatly reduces the chances of draconian laws being enacted in the absence of an upper house, and because of the requisite parliamentary consensus involved in developing and approving legislation on domestic matters (education, health etc)..
Jan 19th 2009, 5:39 pm
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Agreed...but I was talking about devolved parliaments (with one house) only and that also have proportional representation, which greatly reduces the chances of draconian laws being enacted in the absence of an upper house, and because of the requisite parliamentary consensus involved in developing and approving legislation on domestic matters (education, health etc)..
