The Beard Man Issue...
 

Should he be un-banned or what....
this is not about whether you like or dislike the guy but about if there are limits to what he can say on BE...

since the outcome will determine if he can come back or not, I have not included the 'I don't care' option...

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Is this supposed to be a poll, as you have forgotten to add it.

I find him offensive (particularly today's comments) and all he can do is witter on about religion and why everyone who does not agree with his beliefs is wrong. If that is what he wants to discuss then there are plenty of places to discuss religious issues. He does not make this board a better place in any way - quite the opposite.



Ah - poll now added.
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ridiculing the holocaust is pretty unforgivable, in my opinion.

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the systems takes some time to add the poll...

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no one will disagree with that...but is it a reason to be banned...

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I agree that he over stepped the mark, again though i dont think he should be banned but i do believe he should be warned. I think we all need to remember what this site is about and why it is here...

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Its now neck and neck!!!

When does the poll close?

I also think that maybe a bit harsh on his beardy ness, not a fan of his one dimensional view on everything, and asking if you are a Jew if you happen to believe in the holocaust... But maybe, just maybe, he will take on board some comments... He may not all told, but thats life... He is entitled to his opinions...

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it says on the top of the poll when it closes...

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I actually found that slightly amusing, am I a bad man?

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Are you gay?

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doh!

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You people just need to have your own slice of western arrogance in an arab world dont you? What happened to the freedom of speech value that some of you go on about when discussing islam?

BTW im an Aussie not an Arab :P

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Use the ignore...

Don't entice him.

His opinion and beliefs to me opitomise 'what lies beneath' the glitz and glam of this place.

Keep him as a reminder of this

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It's a tricky one but I've got to go with freedom of speech.

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I have now calmed down.

I think i may have acted in haste and think he should have had a warning.

That does not stop me despising him and his 'oh i'm only asking questions' demeanor. The man is a zealot, a racist and a misogynist who is on a mission to convert all.

I loathe him but think i feel stronger about freedom of speech. Can we just sinbin him?

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(littlejimmy posting as clifford)

Even if you live in a supposedly free place like the UK, this much vaunted Freedom of Speech is not absolute. There are rightly limits. You can't get away with shouting FIRE in a crowded theatre for no reason, or ringing up and saying there's a bomb planted for no reason, and you certainly can't incite hatred and violence and spread blatant lies about things like the holocaust.

And it always seems to be the last resort of the desperate when defending the indefensible.

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this is an internet forum...people are not in any danger or don't come to any harm by reading it...unlike when you need to evacuate a crowd of people because of some sick joke...

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I can't see how his holocaust post was enticing religious or racial hatred. There is an element of double standards amongst some posters here, if the questions he asked was enticing religious and racial hatred, then what does that say about the always negative posts about sharia, or this place, this country, this region, those people etc. Bottom line, we believe the holocaust occurred, as do most people including Ahmadinijad, because that is what we have learnt and we are shown evidence through testimonies and video footage, but then again we all say it was 6m solely because this is what we have been told, we never question the exact number we just take it as fact and when asked that is number we will give, in effect just following the masses. Same applies to Beardy (RIP) with regards to some of his thoughts, these are things he has grown up being told and he is also just following his environment.

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but still you want to ban him for saying it...

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What makes you think that?

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because you voted to keep him banned...

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To ban him makes us less tolerant.
He has an abrasive style of posting -more cultural than intentional I think.
Let him remain,if he is excluded then he may well be left to the rantings of 'University Professors' akin to that disgrace in Al Ain. Herein, maybe someone will post something that wil make him stop and think and become less opinionated,even more receptive to other peoples' views.
Inshallah:)

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What makes you think I voted to ban him because of his post?

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But do you really think he'll behave any differntly if he returns? He only wants to talk about two thing; how great Islam is and why the West is wrong/bad.

I suggest that if he is 'unbanned' he'll be even worse, as he will feel vindicated. His comments and views are offensive to many and there are better places for him to post. It is all quite pointless him being on the board, as no matter how many times you try to expalin something he pays no attention and continues with his own misguided agenda.

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because that is the question of the poll...should he be banned for saying that...and you voted for the yes option...

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but where does it all end...if we start banning people because they are expressing an opinion that we don't agree with...
the point is, has a person (in this case Beard Man) broken the BE rules...

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beard man's comments are, at times, approaching the absurd (i.e. the holocaust denier bit) but his opinions appear to be a representative slice of a section of the community in the mid-east. so, in the spirit of freedom of speech, let him back.

besides, he's far more entertaining that the likes of dbxdude and mantronic

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Well according to NorthernLad he broke rule #2. Having checked I agree.

It is not necessarily about having different opinions, as some issues are too serious to be questioned or taken lightly. You may think that wrestling is the greatest sport ever, but my opinion is that it is a load of rubbish. That is entirely different to having views that designed to convert, offend or alienate people and worse when they are based on lack of understanding/knowledge that the poster makes no effort to correct/understand.

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You want to ban this person for what reason? Stating his opinions? I have seen some of the most anti-arab, anti-muslim comments on here. What kind of expatriate community is this? Perhaps its this website and its commentators, whom are constantly advocating the state of Israel, bashing the Sharia laws/regulations and passing little demeaning insults here and there that should be BANNED.

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Oh the irony in your name.

Having checked your previous posts it seem you have one reason for being here and that is simply to post pro-Arab & anti-Israeli comments.


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well my daddies bigger then yours.......

Voting yes was nothing to do with his post and I am probably the only one that does not hate him.

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luckily freedom of speach in the UK does give people the right to question the facts about the holocaust unlike in countries such as Germany where it is a criminal offence. I have no doubt it did happen but believe it is wrong to criminalise people who deny it.

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I don't agree with banning beardman, but I also don't agree with your post. The secret is in the forum name; it's a web site designed for British Expats. If you want a pro-arab, pro-muslim, pro-sharia, anti-Israel web site; create one for yourself. Then you can ban anyone you want! :thumbup:

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I completely don't understand what you are trying to say...
oh well, maybe I have misunderstood my own poll then...

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jeez..I must be thick..but why did you then vote to ban BM...as that was the question of the poll...

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I absolutely agree with you. This forum is great and infact on New Year's Eve I used it to check what venues were open that night. However, i do not want to go on this forum and see comments that are pro-Israeli. Israel is not recognized by the UAE and any such comments are illegal. The British expatriate community must be able to respect the place they are residing in. Etisalat and Du ban websites for much less reasons than some of the things I have read here.

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Your not thick, just incredibly beautiful.

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How naive. Not being anti-Israeli does not mean that a person is anti-Islamic :rolleyes:

Whether the UAE officially recognises the UAE is irrelevant; the country exists.

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You are over complicating things in an attempt to be amusing. Simply put, it is illegal to voice your opinion in support of the state of Israel in the UAE. End of story.

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Do you agree with this?