Indeed it was, unless of course you're generalising and speaking for everyone.

A very strange article indeed. The average wage is nowhere near that level in the UK - they mean household income. But household income composes many other tax credits - family allowance, winter fuel, housing benefit etc, so they are not comparing like with like.
Apples and Pears would be closer.

Then to say that the South African pension is in truth generous - when they then indicate it is only a seventh of average income, but the UK at more than a fifth is mean.....

But having said that, here is no denying the State Pension in the UK is, and always has been, a pittance. But it is topped up with other payments- housing benefit, rates assistance etc.

But what I absolutely do not get is that the system almost forces one to "beg" help from the State, rather than saying that after a lifetime's work, the State will return a small proportion of your lifetime contributions to you.

On an even more worrying point, a couple of weeks ago, NICE announced they were thinking of licensing new drugs based on their "social utility"!

That's the problem... im based in china and i cant let him grow up here etc i need to head back home for his injections his way of life his education blah blah


Tough? more like living hell... really makes me fuming i wish to god Cameron knows about stuff like this but he just turns a blind eye.... something soon is gonna 'GIVE' i sense/feel a great anger among British citizens about the spouse visa rules...

THATS WHAT MAKES UK SHIT - at the moment.

You're joking right? No one gives a stuff. Sorry.

I agree that it is a horrible situation and something of an injustice, but many countries do the same thing. And for the 99.9% of people in Britain that do not fall through the visa-rejection gap, it is not even an issue of which they are aware.

Also, no point blaming Mr Cameron personally. Plenty of people involved in government to change the policy to what now currently stands. Both parties. It simply reflects current British moods.

I thought that an education in Chinese was held in high regard? Might be completely wrong there. Also, at 9 months, you do have quite a bit of time surely? As for injections? There are a growing number of people who decide against them, and they too can be caught up on at a later date if needed.

We don't feel it is best to raise our children in Canada either, so each to their own, just wondering if the urgency isn't really that urgent, might buy you some time together as a family, or at least for him to be with his mum for some of that time.

Have you posted in the right thread?

Response to Vexcore's post. Should probably have quoted, sorry.

Makes more sense now

True, but i don't want my son to be a native chinese... as for education? well you got to remember china is the PRC everyone i have met don't have time for fun or have a good childhood... trust me on that.

as for injections? well im talking about the serious ones that are needed? polio? TB etc but i have heard stories that we shouldn't take them....

We're hijackig this thread damn better reply somewhere else


Joking? i wish i was.... but i know you're right no one simply gives a sh!t,

why blame cameron? well he is the 'leader' of the UK might as well point the finger at him


Yes it does

Bob Crow died suddenly today.....true to form the BBC has had a field day..big time. Not so long ago it was Nelson Mandela....and today, Tuesday 11/03/14 it hss been Bob Crow day...

Notice the lack of reply

If you want a mod to read the thread, either report it or pm one of us. I have a life therefore don't spend ALL my time reading crap threads like this!

I think you will find that the majority either don't know the rules, or have no interest because they aren't impacted by them. Even most Expats are unaware of the current rules for UK migration as a Spouse.

I wouldnt worry about it, I have no idea why a moderator was even mentioned to be honest.

Sure you do - you just trace the quotes back.

You said you started the thread 'tongue-in-cheek' to get a response, which another member felt fell under the definition of trolling - hence the moderator comment. I'd agree to some extent, but nothing that warrants moderator action or I'd have hit the report button

A recent poll showed the majority of Brit citizens in favour of TOUGHER immigration controls, mind you, like Polly, I suspect that extremely few of them knew how it was impacting people wanting to return to the UK after living and marrying in a non EU country. I suspect a lot was fueled by all the scare stories about the millions of Romanians and Bulgarians who were going to flood the UK.