Originally Posted by wonderfulperson (Post 9096686)

who said anything about hanging around places where 16 yr olds are? Who says you had to. Gangs are everywhere, are they? I don't think so. Some countries and places are certainly worse than others, someone on this forum posted stats on crimes globally, maybe some more insight into that may help broaden the mind to it and see how bad some countries are compared to others. Africa for one has a high level of violence but you don't have to hang around any 16 yr olds to find it.
In fact, it tends to find you, how many innocent people got attacked for minding their own business and not being in the wrong place at the wrong time? Some do get attacked in their own homes too you know.

Originally Posted by hayleyatfla (Post 9096688)

wow calm down.... just saying its everywhere you make it sound like you get off the plane n the UK and are surrounded by gangs... no where is perfect...

Originally Posted by Fish n Chips 56 (Post 9096699)

Wonderful...

I wasn't trying to irritate you, but they are all around us, its a case of living in the right place, we all see you point, we are talking in generalities, not trying to upset you or anyone, still gangs are nothing new, Im always careful where I go and Im very aware of my surroundings.

And Yes people break into homes, gangs or not.

To be honest its nice that you like Canada, Ive heard some negatives about Canada on this site over the past year but today Ive heard two Very Positive comments, thats wonderful.

Originally Posted by wonderfulperson (Post 9096708)

I am aware they are around us.. thankfully not in my neighbourhood now as I avoided Surrey like the plague a year or so ago, now I quite like it here, they are more active in Vancouver instead, and come up from Abbotsford commonly.

So of course they are all around us, to some extent. But some places are certainly at higher risk of it and have it much worse.

Originally Posted by wonderfulperson (Post 9096708)

So of course they are all around us, to some extent. But some places are certainly at higher risk of it and have it much worse.

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9096714)

I might be moving to Surrey. :ohmy:

Originally Posted by Fish n Chips 56 (Post 9096723)

Wrong Surrey hahahaaaaa Surrey BC Canada, or are you just pulling our legs...

Originally Posted by wonderfulperson (Post 9096705)

I am calm :)

Was just stating a point, and having lived in London myself and worked there I can honestly say, no it is not a safe place to bring up a child and personally I'd not want to. America is also not as safe as Canada, and believe all you want on it, it always has been more dodgy down there but then it is a much bigger country too so I am sure that is a big factor of it.

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9096733)

LOL!!

Noooo I thought the poster said all the child gangs were in Surrey, England which is to be avoided at all cost.

I keep thinking of Oliver, Fagin and The Artful Dodger. :lol:

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9096697)

:rofl:

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9096733)

LOL!!

Noooo I thought the poster said all the child gangs were in Surrey, England which is to be avoided at all cost.

I keep thinking of Oliver, Fagin and The Artful Dodger. :lol:

Originally Posted by hayleyatfla (Post 9096748)

hahaha i was watching oliver twist at christmas, watch your pockets.. lol j/k

Originally Posted by aviva (Post 9096744)

So, do you think the Koi hibernate under the ice?

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9096763)

Koi? Ice? Think I have missed a post here...........:unsure:

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9096760)

Oliver (the musical) is one of my favourite films (not to say movie anymore ;))

I went to the theatre in London years ago to see it too, I think it was The London Palladium and I wondered how they were going to do all the different scene changes on a stage and they did a fantastic job, it was wonderful. :thumbsup:

http://www.oliverthemusical.com/

I would highly recommend it, and you know what? I think I am going to bloomin' well go again this year!!! :thumbsup: