OVER 50's+ MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
#5221
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Mummy made an oops and typed Plymouth, rather than Portsmouth (as she explained earlier today to me). Last night I went on the Plymouth route and this morning I went back again. I think I find the whole of South England, on the high side. As much as I would really like to give it a shot over there..well I guess I am just spoiled in America, as far as housing goes. I sincerely doubt that I can do a bed-sit, a house-share or a studio and those rents aren't cheap even for that! It's not that I live on the high-side here in the states...still I know I pay cheaper for my place, in a pretty OK location. Now...if I were to win the lottery...Good God Almighty...I definitely would buy a place in England and then fly back and forth. I would love to have the best of both worlds...one can dream, can't one? But the Lord willing and the creek don't rise..am going to pay a visit next year and check it out in person!
#5222
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Gosh, Cheers..at my age I hate to think about that stuff for me. But I have determined..it will be cremation. My one daughter has her dads' ashes, am thinking this will be the daughter that will hold on to mine as well. Best of British Luck to my dau..having her dad and I in the same house again!
#5223
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Clearing out my old files and photos has been bringing back so many memories and making me consider so many things.
I came across letters from my first real boyfriend and decided to see if I could find him now. It wasn't hard - he's still in the same village! Once upon a time I would have looked down on that - and it's actually the reason we split up. I wanted to be off experiencing new things and he was a real homebody with very little desire to explore the world.
Now I find myself envying him. I know that when he walks down the street, most people will nod and say 'hi', or stop to talk. Anytime he goes into the pub, he will be welcomed by people who know his history. He'll share long-standing jokes and when he loses a family member, people will grieve with him. His whole family lives nearby and their lives are woven into the fabric of that little village.
I pulled the thread and freed myself, and as a result I saw and did things he will never do. But I bet he doesn't envy me the way I envy him. I used to think I had life all figured out. Now all these years later, I think he was the one who had it all worked out.
Does anyone else feel this way?
I came across letters from my first real boyfriend and decided to see if I could find him now. It wasn't hard - he's still in the same village! Once upon a time I would have looked down on that - and it's actually the reason we split up. I wanted to be off experiencing new things and he was a real homebody with very little desire to explore the world.
Now I find myself envying him. I know that when he walks down the street, most people will nod and say 'hi', or stop to talk. Anytime he goes into the pub, he will be welcomed by people who know his history. He'll share long-standing jokes and when he loses a family member, people will grieve with him. His whole family lives nearby and their lives are woven into the fabric of that little village.
I pulled the thread and freed myself, and as a result I saw and did things he will never do. But I bet he doesn't envy me the way I envy him. I used to think I had life all figured out. Now all these years later, I think he was the one who had it all worked out.
Does anyone else feel this way?
I made a decision at 13 years of age that I would leave England when I was old enough. Looking back I think it was to escape the fact that my family had my life all planned out, if you know what I mean but also I always loved travel and was intrigued by foreign countries, different cultures. Went to France at 15, Spain at 16, and so it has been. I always knew that was my destiny.
At the same time, when I go back, I see everything as though through a child's eyes. I find the simplest little things so magical, like the shape of the green fields as you fly in, double decker buses. Just ordinary everyday things have this wonderful feeling of Englishness to them and it warms my heart. I, like you, look at my friends' lives and a part of me wishes I could have been a part of what they have experienced by staying there, that sense of belonging and continuity. I know that I cannot recreate that continuity when I go back but at least I will be in my country and be better able to appreciate it than those who have never experienced living somewhere else.
#5224
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We don't get such things here where I live in New Zealand. We've been here over 7 years now.
I took the time to walk down the zigzag and go along the prom a way. I just love that view. It's in my heart and soul forever. Isle of Wight to the right. Purbecks to the left. Pointy beach huts . Groynes.
My parents deliberately chose Bournemouth in the 50's . The beach and B'mth gardens were my playground when I was young.
#5225
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Hello Everyone,
Just thought I would let you all know that my Sister Barbara passed away this evening at 7pm in Plymouth, Mum and I did not have a chance to see her again, she took a change for the worse all of a sudden and this morning the Doctors said that she probably wont last through the day, when they say that you always want them to be wrong, but they were right,
Thank you all for all your kind words and sympathy over the past few months since she was diagnosed with lung cancer,
She turned 69 on February 22nd and she died today on March 22nd,
Thank you all,
Rodney.
Just thought I would let you all know that my Sister Barbara passed away this evening at 7pm in Plymouth, Mum and I did not have a chance to see her again, she took a change for the worse all of a sudden and this morning the Doctors said that she probably wont last through the day, when they say that you always want them to be wrong, but they were right,
Thank you all for all your kind words and sympathy over the past few months since she was diagnosed with lung cancer,
She turned 69 on February 22nd and she died today on March 22nd,
Thank you all,
Rodney.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Clearing out my old files and photos has been bringing back so many memories and making me consider so many things.
I came across letters from my first real boyfriend and decided to see if I could find him now. It wasn't hard - he's still in the same village! Once upon a time I would have looked down on that - and it's actually the reason we split up. I wanted to be off experiencing new things and he was a real homebody with very little desire to explore the world.
Now I find myself envying him. I know that when he walks down the street, most people will nod and say 'hi', or stop to talk. Anytime he goes into the pub, he will be welcomed by people who know his history. He'll share long-standing jokes and when he loses a family member, people will grieve with him. His whole family lives nearby and their lives are woven into the fabric of that little village.
I pulled the thread and freed myself, and as a result I saw and did things he will never do. But I bet he doesn't envy me the way I envy him. I used to think I had life all figured out. Now all these years later, I think he was the one who had it all worked out.
Does anyone else feel this way?
I came across letters from my first real boyfriend and decided to see if I could find him now. It wasn't hard - he's still in the same village! Once upon a time I would have looked down on that - and it's actually the reason we split up. I wanted to be off experiencing new things and he was a real homebody with very little desire to explore the world.
Now I find myself envying him. I know that when he walks down the street, most people will nod and say 'hi', or stop to talk. Anytime he goes into the pub, he will be welcomed by people who know his history. He'll share long-standing jokes and when he loses a family member, people will grieve with him. His whole family lives nearby and their lives are woven into the fabric of that little village.
I pulled the thread and freed myself, and as a result I saw and did things he will never do. But I bet he doesn't envy me the way I envy him. I used to think I had life all figured out. Now all these years later, I think he was the one who had it all worked out.
Does anyone else feel this way?
And in later life we got back in touch--and, as you say about yours, he has a life very close to where we grew up, familiar surroundings, etc etc. So yes, I have sometimes wondered "What if..."
BUT....despite sometimes wishing I had that comfort of living in familiar English surroundings, that continuity, I don't really regret a thing! I went off to Italy right after college, and the five years I spent there were wonderful....plus I met there the man I'm still in love with, thirty-three years after we met. Yes, he's from the US, which has meant lots of heartbreak --because all my "family of origin" is still in UK--and has created that sense of always being torn between worlds. And that is painful,and will never be completely resolved now, as my children are Americans and will probably always live there. BUT--if I hadn't gone off seeking pastures new, we wouldn't have met, had our life together, we wouldn't have had these three wonderful children...
So, in my own case, yes, I've had those moments of wistful regret, those wonderings what it would have been like to have stayed in England...but then I think, well, I do feel it was all "meant to be" the way it happened.
The thing is, when I was young, although I did know--much more than lots of expats seem to have done-- that I loved England passionately, I didn't realise quite how much and how deeply. I only found that out later. And yes, sometimes I have chastised myself for that youthful blindness.
But in the end, no regrets.
Tina
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Well my flight is two days away - just two more sleeps and I'll be on my way
The proceeds of my house sale have gone through and I have scanned every tax form from my first year here in 1989 into my computer and backed it up on an external hard drive along with lots of other stuff so I am ready to go. My 3 bags are packed to within 3 lbs of their limits and my ticket is printed.
I usually fly direct from Newark to Birmingham via Continental but the Delta flight via Amsterdam was actually 250 cheaper and as my excess bags will cost that so I am - for the first time - doing a connecting flight It actually works out for my Dad as the hour springs forwards this weekend in the UK and the Continental flight gets in at 7am - whereas the Delta flight gets in a 10:30am - so my Dad can get a decent nights sleep before picking me up.
All I need now is the exchange rate to get down a little so I can transfer my money - then I can start the next phase of my life and I am so looking forwards to that.
Not long now
The proceeds of my house sale have gone through and I have scanned every tax form from my first year here in 1989 into my computer and backed it up on an external hard drive along with lots of other stuff so I am ready to go. My 3 bags are packed to within 3 lbs of their limits and my ticket is printed.
I usually fly direct from Newark to Birmingham via Continental but the Delta flight via Amsterdam was actually 250 cheaper and as my excess bags will cost that so I am - for the first time - doing a connecting flight It actually works out for my Dad as the hour springs forwards this weekend in the UK and the Continental flight gets in at 7am - whereas the Delta flight gets in a 10:30am - so my Dad can get a decent nights sleep before picking me up.
All I need now is the exchange rate to get down a little so I can transfer my money - then I can start the next phase of my life and I am so looking forwards to that.
Not long now
#5228
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I went back just over two years ago for a few months. It was to care for my Dad until he passed away. T'was winter-time and there was a red robin in the garden and a resident fox. Snow was on the ground.
We don't get such things here where I live in New Zealand. We've been here over 7 years now.
I took the time to walk down the zigzag and go along the prom a way. I just love that view. It's in my heart and soul forever. Isle of Wight to the right. Purbecks to the left. Pointy beach huts . Groynes.
My parents deliberately chose Bournemouth in the 50's . The beach and B'mth gardens were my playground when I was young.
We don't get such things here where I live in New Zealand. We've been here over 7 years now.
I took the time to walk down the zigzag and go along the prom a way. I just love that view. It's in my heart and soul forever. Isle of Wight to the right. Purbecks to the left. Pointy beach huts . Groynes.
My parents deliberately chose Bournemouth in the 50's . The beach and B'mth gardens were my playground when I was young.
The zigzag is the walk I take. I love walking along the prom. Yes the views, are just beautiful. I am very much enjoying appreciating the beauty the UK has to offer. Something I never appreciated when I was a young mum with two small girls.
Now I feel it's 'me' time. And I am loving it. But I couldn't be doing it without the help of family. It's so lovely to be back near family again after 21 years away from them all.
You were lucky to have such a lovely place to spend your childhood. What lovely memories.
#5229
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Hello Everyone,
Just thought I would let you all know that my Sister Barbara passed away this evening at 7pm in Plymouth, Mum and I did not have a chance to see her again, she took a change for the worse all of a sudden and this morning the Doctors said that she probably wont last through the day, when they say that you always want them to be wrong, but they were right,
Thank you all for all your kind words and sympathy over the past few months since she was diagnosed with lung cancer,
She turned 69 on February 22nd and she died today on March 22nd,
Thank you all,
Rodney.
Just thought I would let you all know that my Sister Barbara passed away this evening at 7pm in Plymouth, Mum and I did not have a chance to see her again, she took a change for the worse all of a sudden and this morning the Doctors said that she probably wont last through the day, when they say that you always want them to be wrong, but they were right,
Thank you all for all your kind words and sympathy over the past few months since she was diagnosed with lung cancer,
She turned 69 on February 22nd and she died today on March 22nd,
Thank you all,
Rodney.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Thats where DW wants to go on the next holiday over there so maybe I can spark an interest for that part of the world.
#5231
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Clearing out my old files and photos has been bringing back so many memories and making me consider so many things.
I came across letters from my first real boyfriend and decided to see if I could find him now. It wasn't hard - he's still in the same village! Once upon a time I would have looked down on that - and it's actually the reason we split up. I wanted to be off experiencing new things and he was a real homebody with very little desire to explore the world.
Now I find myself envying him. I know that when he walks down the street, most people will nod and say 'hi', or stop to talk. Anytime he goes into the pub, he will be welcomed by people who know his history. He'll share long-standing jokes and when he loses a family member, people will grieve with him. His whole family lives nearby and their lives are woven into the fabric of that little village.
I pulled the thread and freed myself, and as a result I saw and did things he will never do. But I bet he doesn't envy me the way I envy him. I used to think I had life all figured out. Now all these years later, I think he was the one who had it all worked out.
Does anyone else feel this way?
I came across letters from my first real boyfriend and decided to see if I could find him now. It wasn't hard - he's still in the same village! Once upon a time I would have looked down on that - and it's actually the reason we split up. I wanted to be off experiencing new things and he was a real homebody with very little desire to explore the world.
Now I find myself envying him. I know that when he walks down the street, most people will nod and say 'hi', or stop to talk. Anytime he goes into the pub, he will be welcomed by people who know his history. He'll share long-standing jokes and when he loses a family member, people will grieve with him. His whole family lives nearby and their lives are woven into the fabric of that little village.
I pulled the thread and freed myself, and as a result I saw and did things he will never do. But I bet he doesn't envy me the way I envy him. I used to think I had life all figured out. Now all these years later, I think he was the one who had it all worked out.
Does anyone else feel this way?
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Gosh, Cheers..at my age I hate to think about that stuff for me. But I have determined..it will be cremation. My one daughter has her dads' ashes, am thinking this will be the daughter that will hold on to mine as well. Best of British Luck to my dau..having her dad and I in the same house again!
That reminds me of someone who had the ashes of their Uncle Fred, who had passed away in Australia, sent back to England by some of his friends there. They posted the ashes with no message so when the relatives received it they thought it was from Uncle Fred and they also thought the ashes were some kind of special seasoning from Australian and they proceeded to put it on every thing they cooked. It was only later when they received a follow up letter that they found out it was Uncle Freds ashes.
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At the same time, when I go back, I see everything as though through a child's eyes. I find the simplest little things so magical, like the shape of the green fields as you fly in, double decker buses. Just ordinary everyday things have this wonderful feeling of Englishness to them and it warms my heart.
I know that I cannot recreate that continuity when I go back but at least I will be in my country and be better able to appreciate it than those who have never experienced living somewhere else.
I know that I cannot recreate that continuity when I go back but at least I will be in my country and be better able to appreciate it than those who have never experienced living somewhere else.
As I have previously posted....'no man knows England from within who doesn't know England from without'
Cheers.
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You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they’ve tried everything else.
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An Englishman, even if he is alone, forms an orderly queue of one.
George Mikes
The reason why Englishmen are the best husbands in the world is because they want to be faithful. A Frenchman or an Italian will wake up in the morning and wonder what girl he will meet. An Englishman wakes up and wonders what the cricket score is.
Barbara Cartland
The English contribution to world cuisine - the chip.
John Cleese
On the Continent people have good food; in England people have good table manners.
George Mikes
George Mikes
The reason why Englishmen are the best husbands in the world is because they want to be faithful. A Frenchman or an Italian will wake up in the morning and wonder what girl he will meet. An Englishman wakes up and wonders what the cricket score is.
Barbara Cartland
The English contribution to world cuisine - the chip.
John Cleese
On the Continent people have good food; in England people have good table manners.
George Mikes
Last edited by cheers; Mar 25th 2011 at 2:40 pm.