Other side of the coin...
Jan 7th 2007, 4:52 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
We've got the visa, but also the morgage etc as we are below pensionable age! Not really realistic to expect to have both...
Jan 7th 2007, 4:57 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
What do you want out of life? What is important to you ie Family? Are you capable of going to another country without support and start afresh. What lifestyle do you want and are you capable of getting it? It isn't about anyone else it is about you and what you want out of life and whether you can actually achieve it wherever you go. Have you actually ever lived more than one place and had to start over again? How close are you to your partner, because until you make some friends, and get work they are going to be around you 24/7.
Unless you can afford to live in a good area where crime is low, you will be asking these questions wherever you are in a western society if you don't have the money.
The bottom like is Jamie, is whatever the answers are, they will be to your situation. Everyone is an individual with different needs.
Unless you can afford to live in a good area where crime is low, you will be asking these questions wherever you are in a western society if you don't have the money.
The bottom like is Jamie, is whatever the answers are, they will be to your situation. Everyone is an individual with different needs.
Having read some of the threads in the returning to the uk forum, I know some people have obviously had genuinely bad experiences in Aus through bad luck/no fault of there own, etc, and it is human nature to feel "BITTER" re any bad experience, indeed we may feel the same way ourselves in 2 years' time, but it seems to me that most are gripeing about things that are NOT really important issues, eg like missing Tescos/Aus phrases, which proves my point, would these things even bother these people if things had worked out? I suspect not....water off a ducks back, me thinks...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
Jan 7th 2007, 5:15 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
What do you want out of life? What is important to you ie Family? Are you capable of going to another country without support and start afresh. What lifestyle do you want and are you capable of getting it? It isn't about anyone else it is about you and what you want out of life and whether you can actually achieve it wherever you go. Have you actually ever lived more than one place and had to start over again? How close are you to your partner, because until you make some friends, and get work they are going to be around you 24/7.
Unless you can afford to live in a good area where crime is low, you will be asking these questions wherever you are in a western society if you don't have the money.
The bottom like is Jamie, is whatever the answers are, they will be to your situation. Everyone is an individual with different needs.
Unless you can afford to live in a good area where crime is low, you will be asking these questions wherever you are in a western society if you don't have the money.
The bottom like is Jamie, is whatever the answers are, they will be to your situation. Everyone is an individual with different needs.
We believe in life it is good to meet new friends and to move on when necessary, ie, not stand still. We also acknowledge we will ALWAYS miss our family, although I have an aunt, uncle and 3 cousins local to where we want to settle in Aus, and accept we will be PEOPLE sick NOT home sick from time to time.
We are thinking long-term, ie where, all being well, we would rather be in 5,15,30 yrs time (retirement) and believe all things considered, we can have a better quality of life, making more of our free time, etc, due to the better climate, as we are constantly fustrated at weekends, etc.
We also believe, assuming we can find work (My partner as already been offered interviews and I have been in contact with a careers councellor at the local Uni, etc) that we can have a higher standard of living than we ever could in the UK, as the equity we would put down would mean we would only need a small mortgage.
Don't get me wrong, we like to think we have a nice life in the UK, we own our own home, have a car each, go on foreign holidays etc, so it is not like we are just "Running away", it's a case of, like you say, what is important to the individual, ie each to there own...
Besides, if the worst comes to the worst, we can always come back...we just don't want any regrets that we didn't "give it a go" further down the line...
Jan 7th 2007, 7:20 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Having read some of the threads in the returning to the uk forum, I know some people have obviously had genuinely bad experiences in Aus through bad luck/no fault of there own, etc, and it is human nature to feel "BITTER" re any bad experience, indeed we may feel the same way ourselves in 2 years' time, but it seems to me that most are gripeing about things that are NOT really important issues, eg like missing Tescos/Aus phrases, which proves my point, would these things even bother these people if things had worked out? I suspect not....water off a ducks back, me thinks...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
How about going to the Oz forum and telling the people who rave on about how great the fresh fruit is, compared to the UK, that this is not a real issue, and therefore should not be discussed.
I agree that living in a nice climate brings lots of benefits....but are you really that dull that you don't do anything other than watch TV or go to the pub for 7 months of the year?
Jan 7th 2007, 7:32 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Who said missing Tesco was a "real" issue (apart from you)? Are you sure you're not jumping to conclusions? Why is it that every minor detail that is discussed on this forum has to be analysed and people condemmed for it? It's just chit-chat, for goodness sake!
How about going to the Oz forum and telling the people who rave on about how great the fresh fruit is, compared to the UK, that this is not a real issue, and therefore should not be discussed.
I agree that living in a nice climate brings lots of benefits....but are you really that dull that you don't do anything other than watch TV or go to the pub for 7 months of the year?
How about going to the Oz forum and telling the people who rave on about how great the fresh fruit is, compared to the UK, that this is not a real issue, and therefore should not be discussed.
I agree that living in a nice climate brings lots of benefits....but are you really that dull that you don't do anything other than watch TV or go to the pub for 7 months of the year?
Jan 7th 2007, 8:56 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
ROLL UP, ROLL UP, get your tickets, next ride on the 'you aren't trying hard enough, and do you really know what the UK is like' merry-goround leaving shortly. If you're quick you'll just have time for some candy floss 
Jan 7th 2007, 9:02 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Sorry, it's winter here....I can't bear to go outside. Besides, Eastenders, the Bill, National Lottery, Big Brother, X-factor and Jeremy Kyle are on this evening.
Jan 7th 2007, 9:08 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Can you watch them in the pub 'cos it's the only place worth going to in the UK...?