Other side of the coin...
Jan 7th 2007, 12:23 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Reference to me I gather... iIdidnt say rubbbish is collected every three months, it is every two weeks! in London anyway, don't want to generalise. You can twist what I say if it makes you feel better.....
Jan 7th 2007, 1:34 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Jan 7th 2007, 1:58 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
if it makes you feel better, it's collected every two weeks around here too, and people don't use rubbsih bins but through the rubbish bags out onto the road to get collected....so it ain't just London, and it's still just as minging.
Jan 7th 2007, 2:12 pm
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Jan 7th 2007, 3:02 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Having read some of the threads in the returning to the uk forum, I know some people have obviously had genuinely bad experiences in Aus through bad luck/no fault of there own, etc, and it is human nature to feel "BITTER" re any bad experience, indeed we may feel the same way ourselves in 2 years' time, but it seems to me that most are gripeing about things that are NOT really important issues, eg like missing Tescos/Aus phrases, which proves my point, would these things even bother these people if things had worked out? I suspect not....water off a ducks back, me thinks...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
You sound like you live in central qld only the weathers so hot you can't move for 7 months of the year
Jan 7th 2007, 9:24 pm
#54
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Jamie,
If you end up coming to Australia and stay a reasonable amount of time I can absolutely nailed-on guarantee you that you will feel homesick from time to time. You might well be surprised about what you miss as well. It can be strange what creeps up on you.
For a lot of people on this forum homesickness is an ever-present problem. Its a lot easier to give little examples about things you miss than to masterfully sum up what it is to be homesick. People might often mention stuff like football, tesco's, mushy peas or whatever but these are just the small parts of a very big total. No-one really moves around the world because they miss the clothes at NEXT but they will move to feel familiar,settled, known, belonging etc. Mentioning this kind of stuff helps people get this off their chests so sniping at people for missing baked beans or whatever really misses the point.
That whole "whingeing pom" thing gets very old very quickly when you live here too. If you thing the Aussies don't complain bitterly about stuff...oh my...
I'd say emigrate by all means, have the experience and it might work out for you. Hope it does. Don't let your enthusiasm for it drive you to shout down other people though.
If you end up coming to Australia and stay a reasonable amount of time I can absolutely nailed-on guarantee you that you will feel homesick from time to time. You might well be surprised about what you miss as well. It can be strange what creeps up on you.
For a lot of people on this forum homesickness is an ever-present problem. Its a lot easier to give little examples about things you miss than to masterfully sum up what it is to be homesick. People might often mention stuff like football, tesco's, mushy peas or whatever but these are just the small parts of a very big total. No-one really moves around the world because they miss the clothes at NEXT but they will move to feel familiar,settled, known, belonging etc. Mentioning this kind of stuff helps people get this off their chests so sniping at people for missing baked beans or whatever really misses the point.
That whole "whingeing pom" thing gets very old very quickly when you live here too. If you thing the Aussies don't complain bitterly about stuff...oh my...
I'd say emigrate by all means, have the experience and it might work out for you. Hope it does. Don't let your enthusiasm for it drive you to shout down other people though.
Jan 7th 2007, 9:45 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Jamie,
If you end up coming to Australia and stay a reasonable amount of time I can absolutely nailed-on guarantee you that you will feel homesick from time to time. You might well be surprised about what you miss as well. It can be strange what creeps up on you.
For a lot of people on this forum homesickness is an ever-present problem. Its a lot easier to give little examples about things you miss than to masterfully sum up what it is to be homesick. People might often mention stuff like football, tesco's, mushy peas or whatever but these are just the small parts of a very big total. No-one really moves around the world because they miss the clothes at NEXT but they will move to feel familiar,settled, known, belonging etc. Mentioning this kind of stuff helps people get this off their chests so sniping at people for missing baked beans or whatever really misses the point.
That whole "whingeing pom" thing gets very old very quickly when you live here too. If you thing the Aussies don't complain bitterly about stuff...oh my...
I'd say emigrate by all means, have the experience and it might work out for you. Hope it does. Don't let your enthusiasm for it drive you to shout down other people though.
If you end up coming to Australia and stay a reasonable amount of time I can absolutely nailed-on guarantee you that you will feel homesick from time to time. You might well be surprised about what you miss as well. It can be strange what creeps up on you.
For a lot of people on this forum homesickness is an ever-present problem. Its a lot easier to give little examples about things you miss than to masterfully sum up what it is to be homesick. People might often mention stuff like football, tesco's, mushy peas or whatever but these are just the small parts of a very big total. No-one really moves around the world because they miss the clothes at NEXT but they will move to feel familiar,settled, known, belonging etc. Mentioning this kind of stuff helps people get this off their chests so sniping at people for missing baked beans or whatever really misses the point.
That whole "whingeing pom" thing gets very old very quickly when you live here too. If you thing the Aussies don't complain bitterly about stuff...oh my...
I'd say emigrate by all means, have the experience and it might work out for you. Hope it does. Don't let your enthusiasm for it drive you to shout down other people though.
Jan 7th 2007, 10:02 pm
#56
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Having read some of the threads in the returning to the uk forum, I know some people have obviously had genuinely bad experiences in Aus through bad luck/no fault of there own, etc, and it is human nature to feel "BITTER" re any bad experience, indeed we may feel the same way ourselves in 2 years' time, but it seems to me that most are gripeing about things that are NOT really important issues, eg like missing Tescos/Aus phrases, which proves my point, would these things even bother these people if things had worked out? I suspect not....water off a ducks back, me thinks...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
Jan 7th 2007, 10:23 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Heh, with one or two exceptions this really is the most bitter, vitriolic forum I've ever encountered on t'interweb
If I had to take a stab at why, I'd venture maybe that emigrating is such a huge move (is there any bigger life choice, asides from maybe having children?) it often requires a certain amount of self-validating reinforcement ("everything is RUBBISH here, right?"). If it doesn't work out and folks return, because of all the original justifications it requires even stronger reasoning to validate ("wow, it's even MORE RUBBISH here, EVERYTHING's better in Britain") etc. etc.
Honestly, pick any random six threads in this forum and you seem guarenteed to find the "RUBBISH!", "MORE RUBBISH HERE!" cycle repeating itself. Any positive comments about anywhere seem destined to be shot down almost before they've been posted.
Still, the constant sparring makes for entertaining reading on a grey rainy morning.
Cheers all, and Happy New Year wherever you are
Iain
(Eastern England, PNG, Northern England, Canada, Southern England, back to Canada this year, just enjoying the variety )
If I had to take a stab at why, I'd venture maybe that emigrating is such a huge move (is there any bigger life choice, asides from maybe having children?) it often requires a certain amount of self-validating reinforcement ("everything is RUBBISH here, right?"). If it doesn't work out and folks return, because of all the original justifications it requires even stronger reasoning to validate ("wow, it's even MORE RUBBISH here, EVERYTHING's better in Britain") etc. etc.
Honestly, pick any random six threads in this forum and you seem guarenteed to find the "RUBBISH!", "MORE RUBBISH HERE!" cycle repeating itself. Any positive comments about anywhere seem destined to be shot down almost before they've been posted.
Still, the constant sparring makes for entertaining reading on a grey rainy morning.
Cheers all, and Happy New Year wherever you are
Iain
(Eastern England, PNG, Northern England, Canada, Southern England, back to Canada this year, just enjoying the variety
)
Last edited by Iain Mc; Jan 7th 2007 at 10:31 pm.
Jan 7th 2007, 10:35 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Heh, with one or two exceptions this really is the most bitter, vitriolic forum I've ever encountered on t'interweb
If I had to take a stab at why, I'd venture maybe that emigrating is such a huge move (is there any bigger life choice, asides from maybe having children?) it often requires a certain amount of self-validating reinforcement ("everything is RUBBISH here, right?"). If it doesn't work out and folks return, because of all the original justifications it requires even stronger reasoning to validate ("wow, it's even MORE RUBBISH here, EVERYTHING's better in Britain") etc. etc.
Honestly, pick any random six threads in this forum and you seem guarenteed to find the "RUBBISH!", "MORE RUBBISH HERE!" cycle repeating itself. Any positive comments about anywhere seem destined to be shot down almost before they've been posted.
Still, makes for entertaining pop psychology on a grey rainy morning.
Cheers all, and Happy New Year wherever you are
Iain
(Eastern England, PNG, Northern England, Canada, Southern England, back to Canada this year, just enjoying the variety )
If I had to take a stab at why, I'd venture maybe that emigrating is such a huge move (is there any bigger life choice, asides from maybe having children?) it often requires a certain amount of self-validating reinforcement ("everything is RUBBISH here, right?"). If it doesn't work out and folks return, because of all the original justifications it requires even stronger reasoning to validate ("wow, it's even MORE RUBBISH here, EVERYTHING's better in Britain") etc. etc.
Honestly, pick any random six threads in this forum and you seem guarenteed to find the "RUBBISH!", "MORE RUBBISH HERE!" cycle repeating itself. Any positive comments about anywhere seem destined to be shot down almost before they've been posted.
Still, makes for entertaining pop psychology on a grey rainy morning.
Cheers all, and Happy New Year wherever you are
Iain
(Eastern England, PNG, Northern England, Canada, Southern England, back to Canada this year, just enjoying the variety
)Your not the type of person who can really criticize people who have actually migrated and spent time trying to make a place work .
The fact is if your always moving, like you seem to be you arnt living a normal life ,you use a place up and see what you want and go somewhere else ,your life is probably a holiday and fair play to you as its a graet way to live .
Good luck to you where ever you end up if ever you end up anywhere .
Jan 7th 2007, 10:43 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Heh, with one or two exceptions this really is the most bitter, vitriolic forum I've ever encountered on t'interweb
If I had to take a stab at why, I'd venture maybe that emigrating is such a huge move (is there any bigger life choice, asides from maybe having children?) it often requires a certain amount of self-validating reinforcement ("everything is RUBBISH here, right?"). If it doesn't work out and folks return, because of all the original justifications it requires even stronger reasoning to validate ("wow, it's even MORE RUBBISH here, EVERYTHING's better in Britain") etc. etc.
Honestly, pick any random six threads in this forum and you seem guarenteed to find the "RUBBISH!", "MORE RUBBISH HERE!" cycle repeating itself. Any positive comments about anywhere seem destined to be shot down almost before they've been posted.
Still, the constant sparring makes for entertaining reading on a grey rainy morning.
Cheers all, and Happy New Year wherever you are
Iain
(Eastern England, PNG, Northern England, Canada, Southern England, back to Canada this year, just enjoying the variety )
If I had to take a stab at why, I'd venture maybe that emigrating is such a huge move (is there any bigger life choice, asides from maybe having children?) it often requires a certain amount of self-validating reinforcement ("everything is RUBBISH here, right?"). If it doesn't work out and folks return, because of all the original justifications it requires even stronger reasoning to validate ("wow, it's even MORE RUBBISH here, EVERYTHING's better in Britain") etc. etc.
Honestly, pick any random six threads in this forum and you seem guarenteed to find the "RUBBISH!", "MORE RUBBISH HERE!" cycle repeating itself. Any positive comments about anywhere seem destined to be shot down almost before they've been posted.
Still, the constant sparring makes for entertaining reading on a grey rainy morning.
Cheers all, and Happy New Year wherever you are
Iain
(Eastern England, PNG, Northern England, Canada, Southern England, back to Canada this year, just enjoying the variety
)
Jan 7th 2007, 10:51 pm
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Re: Other side of the coin...
don't be daft mate...plenty more crappy threads for you to read on here.
seems like to me you move around a bit and really dont give any where a real go .
We're just lucky we have the chance to try such things in this short life, IMHO!
Regards, Iain
Last edited by Iain Mc; Jan 7th 2007 at 10:56 pm.
