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Old Aug 12th 2009, 6:53 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
You can get that here as well, along with benefits to cover car payments, credit card payments.....
I meant state benefits not PPI
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 6:53 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
that a job can be lost in the UK if your sick for an extended period of time? what is there not to understand there? seriously?
I think most understand that. But, as per usual when the subject is US healthcare, you choose to obfuscate the argument at hand. Thydney's underlying point was that in the US, people frequently lose their house (and /or declare bankruptcy) to pay medical bills whereas in the UK that almost certainly would never happen. It's a pretty basic difference that for some reason you choose not to acknowledge. The fact that people (in both countries) may lose their jobs because of a sickness really isn't relevant to this specific difference, especially as even in this case the consequences are likely to be far less dire in the UK.
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by meauxna
Seriously, maybe take the side argument elsewhere because this surely kills the thread to start picking at each other.
Who's picking It would appear that people who dont live in the UK or were even born there question what we as British/English know about our Mother Land.
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:26 pm
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I think most understand that. But, as per usual when the subject is US healthcare, you choose to obfuscate the argument at hand. Thydney's underlying point was that in the US, people frequently lose their house (and /or declare bankruptcy) to pay medical bills whereas in the UK that almost certainly would never happen. It's a pretty basic difference that for some reason you choose not to acknowledge. The fact that people (in both countries) may lose their jobs because of a sickness really isn't relevant to this specific difference, especially as even in this case the consequences are likely to be far less dire in the UK.
Yet you insist on making my very simple point more then it is.....per usual. I assure you that was the only point I was trying to make. But you must always see a mystery novel when there isn't one there to write. Perhaps a Sherlock Holmes fetish?
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Thydney
I meant state benefits not PPI
State benefits to specifically save your house, pay your mortgage?
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
State benefits to specifically save your house, pay your mortgage?
Yes...it's been happening for decades.
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
State benefits to specifically save your house, pay your mortgage?
pretty common occurrance in the UK
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
State benefits to specifically save your house, pay your mortgage?
Thats to avoid so many forclosures and the country having to take out massive loans with China to bail people out after the fact!
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Yes...it's been happening for decades.
Wow, that's great. But I'd be interested to see how that can stay afloat. Seriously, how can the government afford to pay an ill person's mortgage for months on end? How does that work? Surely it can't go on for years on end?
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Ash UK/US
Thats to avoid so many forclosures and the country having to take out massive loans with China to bail people out after the fact!
There's already a lot of foreclosures going on in the UK - thankfully not to do with medical problems.
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actually pretty smart when you think about it... they can pay £120 per week to a land lord or pay £120 per week on a mortage which will leave something to show for the money and something to take pride in.
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Wow, that's great. But I'd be interested to see how that can stay afloat. Seriously, how can the government afford to pay an ill person's mortgage for months on end? How does that work? Surely it can't go on for years on end?

They usually pay interest only, to stop the banks from re-posessing the house, but it is a far more sensible way to keep people in their own homes. Probably cheaper in the long run than paying for their living expenses in a hotel etc...yes, that happens in the Uk too
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
There's already a lot of foreclosures going on in the UK - thankfully not to do with medical problems.
True but there would be more if people had to worry about medical debt... which by the way is the biggest cause of bankrupsy [sp?] in the US.
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Old Aug 12th 2009, 7:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Englishtart
They usually pay interest only, to stop the banks from re-posessing the house, but it is a far more sensible way to keep people in their own homes. Probably cheaper in the long run than paying for their living expenses in a hotel etc...yes, that happens in the Uk too
Yes I know about paying the hotel bit.....just never heard of paying mortgages. But it would still only be a limited time, surely? Certainly make more sense to put someone in a council house/flat.
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Yet you insist on making my very simple point more then it is.....per usual. I assure you that was the only point I was trying to make. But you must always see a mystery novel when there isn't one there to write. Perhaps a Sherlock Holmes fetish?
Why are you trying to be so smart about this? It's pretty clear you won't go bankrupt to pay medical bills in the UK.
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