Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer

Well, the "Victorian" jibe, with its startling originality, stung me badly.

You solve nothing, by building a straw man out of your happy stamping grounds in the US (which, I must say, impressed me immensely - I imagine you were held in the greatest respect by the noble gang members in Little Haiti). I really don't care about inner-city violence anywhere in the world, when I'm talking about semi-rural England. All you are doing, is proving you have no understanding of the issue. You compound this, by admitting you know nothing of the era I'm talking about. If you didn't experience the era, you therefore know nothing of the change and your views (or non-views, in your case) have absolutely no relevance. Added to that, it was you who made the initial comparison between the UK and US, you cretin.

Now, run along sonny and see if there is anything you actually can make a success of, as adapting to the US was too much for you.

Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready

Well, unlike yourself, I actually lived in the UK this side of World War 2 and my opinions don't come from reading the Daily Mail online. I've lived in semi-rural and urban England, while you were out here tuned into Fox News.

Frankly, it's clear that you know nothing of the modern day UK. You expect us to allow you your angry, meaningless hissy fits / rants, yet you won't allow anyone to express a different opinion without getting upset.

You're an angry, irrelevant little man. Stay in suburban Texas or wherever the heck you live, far away from those horrible chavs and Muslims. At your stage in life, any kind of excitement could be bad for the old ticker.

Originally Posted by tonrob

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Originally Posted by cindyabs

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer

I'm sick and tired of being told, by you lovers of all things British, that I'm not entitled to my own opinion - I'm British, hate what has happened to the country I grew up in and will exercise my right to express it. I won't object to you telling us it's still that green and pleasant land, peopled by quirky, loveable folk and certainly won't apologise for balancing it, by telling it as I see it.

I loved growing up in England, in the 60's and 70's - a land of (comparative) freedom, where good old fashioned family values were the norm. That changed, certainly in my part of East Sussex, to a place ruled by gangs of disaffected youths, to such an extent that my parents, who had lived in the same village for all of their 80 plus years, were afraid to go out. In fact, most people are afraid to go out at night, young and old.

So, how about you take off your rose-tinted spectacles for a while and admit that Britain isn't the paradise of village pubs and eccentrics you portray. Those of us who are fortunate enough to be happy where we've landed are just as entitled to voice our opinions as those of you who are miserable and disenfranchised.

Originally Posted by Homeiswheretheheartis

I only left the UK 7 months ago and do not recognise the UK you are talking about.

I didn't leave because I was unhappy in the UK.

I also have a very nice lifestyle here, a big house, lots of sun, husband good job, kids in good schools, live in very good area, very good health care.

Despite all of that I cannot get my head around living in a county that does not care for their poor, does not offer health care to all, where there is an acceptance of children living in cars and they take guns to school and use them

You have the right to dis the UK, just as much as people champion the UK, just as much as people have the right to disagree with you and stick up of a country and system they believe is better.

Originally Posted by Uncle Ebenezer

Says the boy whose initial hissy fit/rant I replied to. Just for the record, spotty, never been a Wail reader and never watched Fox News, but don't let that get in the way of your blinkers.

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Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready

You're the one whining about a country you haven't lived for the best part of half a century

I've figured it out though Aunt Eb: you're terrified of chavs! So with that being the case, I hope this doesn't give you too many nightmares:

http://www.dangerousminds.net/images...hav_thumb.jpeg

Originally Posted by Sally Redux

My parents live in East Sussex and I am not aware of any gangs of youths putting people in fear either.

Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready

What about the East Sussex Massive or the South of Central Hastings Crew? They're quite notorious gangs, so I've heard. They make the Bloods and Crips look like a bunch of raving pansies. Eastbourne and Rye are scary places too; one wrong turn and you're in a world of hurt, bullets and mayhem.

Originally Posted by robin1234

"Did you find everything you were looking for today?"
Oh dear that innocent question is one of the banes of my life.. my wife keeps threatening to give the next cashier an honest and fully-featured response to that question. So far, I've managed to keep her in check..

Originally Posted by Sally Redux

I suppose he might be thinking of the Brighton Interior Decorators Posse.

Originally Posted by Ethelred_the_Unready

Mess with those guys and it's well and truly curtains.