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Old Sep 16th 2014 | 8:43 pm
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To be fair, he was encouraged to voice his criticisms by a moderator.

He also strikes me as rather depressed and maybe his wife is homesick.

Also, despite being very happy now I'm home, some of his less outrageous points strike a chord with me.
 
Old Sep 16th 2014 | 8:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Is it any better manners or less rude and pointless for you to decide who can and cannot post on an open internet forum?
Where have I said he cannot post? But freedom of speech works both ways. If someone comes to my house they're free to complain and I'm free to say don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.
 
Old Sep 16th 2014 | 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Editha
To be fair, he was encouraged to voice his criticisms by a moderator.

He also strikes me as rather depressed and maybe his wife is homesick.

Also, despite being very happy now I'm home, some of his less outrageous points strike a chord with me.
Indeed, there are little snippets of truth inbetween all the nonsense but even those little things are rather insignificant in the scheme of things.
 
Old Sep 16th 2014 | 9:52 pm
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Originally Posted by chris955
Nobody is being told they can or cant post but when you read the OP you do have to question the motives when you look at how outrageous most of the points made are.
Really? "I'm not sure this is the right place, though. The wife isn't British and the husband isn't an expat". "This website is called BritishExpats, is my point."

Doesn't sound very welcoming to those who may not be British. Or Expats.

I'm not British, however I am an expat. Does that mean it's half ok for me to be here?
 
Old Sep 16th 2014 | 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Really? "I'm not sure this is the right place, though. The wife isn't British and the husband isn't an expat". "This website is called BritishExpats, is my point."

Doesn't sound very welcoming to those who may not be British. Or Expats.

I'm not British, however I am an expat. Does that mean it's half ok for me to be here?
The poster was asking a question, he wasnt telling anyone they could or couldnt post.
 
Old Sep 16th 2014 | 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Really? "I'm not sure this is the right place, though. The wife isn't British and the husband isn't an expat". "This website is called BritishExpats, is my point."

Doesn't sound very welcoming to those who may not be British. Or Expats.

I'm not British, however I am an expat. Does that mean it's half ok for me to be here?
Some of the posters on the US part of the site are on you like a ton of bricks if you criticise the US.
 
Old Sep 16th 2014 | 10:12 pm
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Originally Posted by chris955
Indeed, there are little snippets of truth inbetween all the nonsense but even those little things are rather insignificant in the scheme of things.
But as I've said and as we all know, if you're in a country where for what ever reason you haven't settled, even the smallest negative thing becomes a major hurdle to happiness. Everything just builds up and we can all say but x y z is actually incorrect and you're mistaken as much as we like, it sometimes doesn't sink in or help the person struggling. Maybe just offloading that list (that they were asked to detail) and reading the feedback will help, who knows. Ok so it hasn't been put in the best terms and they've obviously offended some but if you're depressed and possibly not thinking rationally, you just let go and vomit it all up so to speak.
 
Old Sep 16th 2014 | 10:42 pm
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From the OP, to Mrs London1947, the post title appropriate, as is the rant a good one, no different than any immigrant going to new country - they'd always find some fault & a whinge is as good as it gets.

the point in bold red below sums it up, likely at some point in time you may tolerate & adjust to the annoyances?

Originally Posted by London1947
I am an American, born and bred, I married a Brit and we relocated to the South West. Since moving to the UK two years ago, I have come to a sort of annoyed tolerance of the following issues, but no Briton should have to put up with these things:
In a nutshell, I would agree with you, specifically on the following

*The benefit system has enabled people to abuse it. Why are benefits unending?

*Why do we have to pay for a license to watch TV?

*There is very little customer service in the country as a whole.

*People are basically pigs here. They always seem to expect others to clean up their mess, whether it's at McDonald's or on the village green.

Note: These are my wife's views and I fully concur.
Of course the good points of living in the UK outweigh the small annoyances that you have listed in the OP Mrs London1947?

It would be interesting to see Mr London1947 list against those in he OP of the annoyed tolerance that persons living in the US should have to put up with.

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Old Sep 16th 2014 | 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by BEVS

MrsLondon1947 (the 3rd) is a born & bred city girl so Dawlish ,as a place to actually live in , may have come as something of a shock.
Yes I can totally see that. It's a much slower pace of life there too isn't it, and I've been there when it's raining and cold, it isn't much fun. And when you are feeling down that can make things feel much, much worse.
 
Old Sep 17th 2014 | 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by petrichor
I'm not sure this is the right place, though. The wife isn't British and the husband isn't an expat.

I've lived abroad for more than three years now and have lived in other countries for many more years off and on, and while there is good and bad in every country I would never reel off a long list of complaints to its citizens. It's like being a guest in someone's house and complaining about the food or the entertainment. It's just bad manners.

I don't understand the point of posting. He or she is clearly unwilling to listen to facts or even reason, which is what makes me think he or she is just trolling.

Maybe a US expat website would be more suitable if he or she wants a sympathetic ear? Although some posters can muster more sympathy and understanding than I am capable of, he or she is unlikely to get much joy from posting here.
Hasn't the OP returned from living in the US? Ergo, he is the same as many of the "British expats" on this forum.
 
Old Sep 17th 2014 | 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
It must be very hard living day to day when you appear that unhappy, especially if you can't do anything about moving for either financial or health reasons.
That's what is reads like, but then she puts

Originally Posted by London1947
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*The benefit system has enabled people to abuse it. Why are benefits unending?
Why moan about this when she came for these "unending" freebies? It's not as though the rest of the world doesn't know the US haven't got a national health system and that we don't know she came to the UK to get us to pay for her healthcare in old age because citizens of her own country won't pay for her. Unless she doesn't realise we all know that?

A change of attitude could make all the difference to her/their lives in the UK. Or they can return home to the US and pay their own medical bills if they feel that would make them happier.

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Old Sep 17th 2014 | 12:35 am
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I just don't understand why people who are happy with their lives in the UK have to kick someone who is clearly down. Is it really "correcting factual inaccuracies" or taking offence at someone presenting their reasons for being unhappy in the UK?
 
Old Sep 17th 2014 | 12:46 am
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Originally Posted by dunroving
I just don't understand why people who are happy with their lives in the UK have to kick someone who is clearly down. Is it really "correcting factual inaccuracies" or taking offence at someone presenting their reasons for being unhappy in the UK?
Depends on the responder I guess. In my case I know only too well what its like to be unhappy somewhere, so I merely wanted to correct the factual inaccuracies - as people have done with me thousands of times on here over the years when I have whinged about things I dislike about Aus.
 
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Originally Posted by dunroving
I just don't understand why people who are happy with their lives in the UK have to kick someone who is clearly down. Is it really "correcting factual inaccuracies" or taking offence at someone presenting their reasons for being unhappy in the UK?
We all have choices to make our lives happy. If she is still unhappy after these 2 years, then they can move home. Or, if they need to have free healthcare, then they should be pleased that they have arrived in a country who are willing to provide them with that in their old age and then also accept that there will be other things that are not the same as their own country.

Of course, if the US got it's act together and gave free healthcare to their elderly who have paid taxes for years and to those out of work, then that would solve a lot of problems for their citizens. I can't imagine how bad it must be to leave loved ones so that you don't go bankrupt due to medical bills or die from lack of basic medical care.

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Old Sep 17th 2014 | 12:53 am
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Originally Posted by dunroving
I just don't understand why people who are happy with their lives in the UK have to kick someone who is clearly down. Is it really "correcting factual inaccuracies" or taking offence at someone presenting their reasons for being unhappy in the UK?
agree

Take someone that has lived in one of the great metropolis of the US - Washington, NYC, LA that moves back to the UK with a US born & bred spouse to a small town of 12,000 people. It must be a difficult adjustment.

If folks are happy & have made the decision to move to wherever, for whatever reason - the choice is theirs & no other. Over time Mrs may adapt, or want to move to a bigger city such as Bristol.

I have no issues with Mrs London having a whinge doing a comparison - its human nature. I wonder how Mrs London would have adjusted if Mr L had taken her to live in a place such as the 'Isle of Bute' or the Isle of Barra'?

Either one of those would have be my choice.
 


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