Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
Dec 10th 2006, 7:01 pm
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
[email protected] (Poetic Justice) wrote:
>But whatever, I'm finished here.
>
I hope you mean only this topic. I would be saddened if another of our
helpful participants were alienated from the group.
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>But whatever, I'm finished here.
>
I hope you mean only this topic. I would be saddened if another of our
helpful participants were alienated from the group.
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Dec 10th 2006, 8:13 pm
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:48:47 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:38:26 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
> >Justice) wrote:
> >
> >>[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> Once at my hotel all that stuff goes into the room safe or my luggage,
> >>I never use them while in the cities or towns. Regards, Walter
> >
> >Note that in quite a number of places it's important to carry your
> >passport or some good ID on you.
> Tattooed ID numbers are coming back into fashion in Ritalalaland.
Actually I have never, ever been asked to show ID anywhere except for
purposes like changing money, and being stopped by cops for traffic
offenses.
B;
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:48:47 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:38:26 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
> >Justice) wrote:
> >
> >>[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> Once at my hotel all that stuff goes into the room safe or my luggage,
> >>I never use them while in the cities or towns. Regards, Walter
> >
> >Note that in quite a number of places it's important to carry your
> >passport or some good ID on you.
> Tattooed ID numbers are coming back into fashion in Ritalalaland.
Actually I have never, ever been asked to show ID anywhere except for
purposes like changing money, and being stopped by cops for traffic
offenses.
B;
Dec 10th 2006, 8:17 pm
#93
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:48:47 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> > <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >
> > >On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:38:26 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
> > >Justice) wrote:
> > >
> > >>[email protected] wrote:
> > >
> > >> Once at my hotel all that stuff goes into the room safe or my luggage,
> > >>I never use them while in the cities or towns. Regards, Walter
> > >
> > >Note that in quite a number of places it's important to carry your
> > >passport or some good ID on you.
> >
> > Tattooed ID numbers are coming back into fashion in Ritalalaland.
>
> Actually I have never, ever been asked to show ID anywhere except for
> purposes like changing money, and being stopped by cops for traffic
> offenses.
I almost never carry my passport around in continental Europe (assuming
I've checked into a hotel etc., as I prefer to leave it there), even in
countries where it's required to have some form of ID.
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> Martin wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:48:47 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> > <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >
> > >On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:38:26 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
> > >Justice) wrote:
> > >
> > >>[email protected] wrote:
> > >
> > >> Once at my hotel all that stuff goes into the room safe or my luggage,
> > >>I never use them while in the cities or towns. Regards, Walter
> > >
> > >Note that in quite a number of places it's important to carry your
> > >passport or some good ID on you.
> >
> > Tattooed ID numbers are coming back into fashion in Ritalalaland.
>
> Actually I have never, ever been asked to show ID anywhere except for
> purposes like changing money, and being stopped by cops for traffic
> offenses.
I almost never carry my passport around in continental Europe (assuming
I've checked into a hotel etc., as I prefer to leave it there), even in
countries where it's required to have some form of ID.
--
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Dec 10th 2006, 8:29 pm
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
Poetic Justice wrote:
> Martin wrote:
> >As an aid to their paranoia?
> Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
> etc.
> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
> warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
> just our group ****in' paranoia.
No need to throw your teddy out of the pram. The point is simply that
some people on this ng who spend their life travelling around Europe
generally don't feel the need to adopt extreme measures to protect
their wallets, and wish to dispel the notion that there is a jungle
waiting to snare the unsuspecting. If you want to do so, that's up to
you, but I suspect you'd be better advised to devote that mental energy
to avoiding being run over by a car.
> But whatever, I'm finished here.
Your choice.
B;
> Martin wrote:
> >As an aid to their paranoia?
> Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
> etc.
> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
> warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
> just our group ****in' paranoia.
No need to throw your teddy out of the pram. The point is simply that
some people on this ng who spend their life travelling around Europe
generally don't feel the need to adopt extreme measures to protect
their wallets, and wish to dispel the notion that there is a jungle
waiting to snare the unsuspecting. If you want to do so, that's up to
you, but I suspect you'd be better advised to devote that mental energy
to avoiding being run over by a car.
> But whatever, I'm finished here.
Your choice.
B;
Dec 10th 2006, 8:31 pm
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
Padraig Breathnach wrote:
>I hope you mean only this topic. I would
>be saddened if another of our helpful
>participants were alienated from the
>group.
Thanks for the complement :).
But I only meant in the Martin pissing contest.
After almost 10yrs posting here I know that when you hit 'Send' you are
inviting those in who are just waiting around opening every single
Thread and trying to start a pissing contest over anything and
everything:).
I do start Threads over at Fodors usually about Rome (historical finds,
daytrips, museum info, updating old info, etc) but its (I threw that one
in for Magda:) a waste of time to post on-topic info here just to feed
these regular trolls.
So I just respond occasionally to on-topic posts and usually avoid most
of the regulars.
Except this time and I knew it was a waste of time and foolish even
before I sent the 1st post:). Regards, Walter
..And Paradise Was Lost...like teardrops in the rain...
>I hope you mean only this topic. I would
>be saddened if another of our helpful
>participants were alienated from the
>group.
Thanks for the complement :).
But I only meant in the Martin pissing contest.
After almost 10yrs posting here I know that when you hit 'Send' you are
inviting those in who are just waiting around opening every single
Thread and trying to start a pissing contest over anything and
everything:).
I do start Threads over at Fodors usually about Rome (historical finds,
daytrips, museum info, updating old info, etc) but its (I threw that one
in for Magda:) a waste of time to post on-topic info here just to feed
these regular trolls.
So I just respond occasionally to on-topic posts and usually avoid most
of the regulars.
Except this time and I knew it was a waste of time and foolish even
before I sent the 1st post:). Regards, Walter
..And Paradise Was Lost...like teardrops in the rain...
Dec 10th 2006, 8:50 pm
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:03:37 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
Justice) wrote:
>Martin wrote:
>>As an aid to their paranoia?
>Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
>etc.
>
> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
>warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
>just our group ****in' paranoia.
I can't imagine anyone paradoid ever getting into trouble.
>BTW; Do you ever post anything of value or just moronic one-liners
>hoping to get into a pissing contest?
> I always skip over your posts rather than waste my time reading your BS
>but perhaps I and the others who have killfiled you are missing
>something.
Martin is like that.
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Justice) wrote:
>Martin wrote:
>>As an aid to their paranoia?
>Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
>etc.
>
> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
>warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
>just our group ****in' paranoia.
I can't imagine anyone paradoid ever getting into trouble.
>BTW; Do you ever post anything of value or just moronic one-liners
>hoping to get into a pissing contest?
> I always skip over your posts rather than waste my time reading your BS
>but perhaps I and the others who have killfiled you are missing
>something.
Martin is like that.
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Dec 10th 2006, 9:30 pm
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
Poetic Justice <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> Our 1st stop is the Suburban Baths and then 2 policemen show-up.
> The guides are now in a heated argument with the cops.
> One cop is staring at me the whole time and then walks over and just
> says "Passport" but none of the others were asked (30ish Gay couple and
> a small petite woman).
>
> I'm thinking at this point the cops are looking for someone fitting my
> description (long hair, beard, big & ugly:) and I have no ID.
>
> But then I remembered I did put my driving license with my CC and cash
> in my money clip.
> Which they accepted as ID and then asked the others who all had
> Passports.
> And wrote down all the info.
>
> Later the guides seemed embarrassed and wouldn't talk about the
> incident which lasted ~20min.
> It just seemed to me that the cops were trying to shake-down the Rome
> tour company for a bribe?
> We were afterall just 5 people who hired a legally licensed on-site
> Pompeii guide for a tour. Regards, Walter
My partner and I were asked for ID in Rome in 1997. I think they thought
my partner was an illegal immigrant, and I was negotiating to pay for
his services. My partner isn't white, so naturally the only thing the
observant Italian cops could have assumed was that he was an illegal
immigrant. The only thing on me was my Harvard ID, and my partner had an
IATA card. They assumed we were Americans once we flashed them (they
were half right, I suppose) and bid us on our way, warning us to be
careful as it was a dangerous area. It was near Termini, and it wasn't
dangerous- apart from bumping into these muppets with badges and guns.
I doubt the cops were trying to shake down your operator for a guide.
They don't strike me as organised or resourceful enough for that.
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[]
> Our 1st stop is the Suburban Baths and then 2 policemen show-up.
> The guides are now in a heated argument with the cops.
> One cop is staring at me the whole time and then walks over and just
> says "Passport" but none of the others were asked (30ish Gay couple and
> a small petite woman).
>
> I'm thinking at this point the cops are looking for someone fitting my
> description (long hair, beard, big & ugly:) and I have no ID.
>
> But then I remembered I did put my driving license with my CC and cash
> in my money clip.
> Which they accepted as ID and then asked the others who all had
> Passports.
> And wrote down all the info.
>
> Later the guides seemed embarrassed and wouldn't talk about the
> incident which lasted ~20min.
> It just seemed to me that the cops were trying to shake-down the Rome
> tour company for a bribe?
> We were afterall just 5 people who hired a legally licensed on-site
> Pompeii guide for a tour. Regards, Walter
My partner and I were asked for ID in Rome in 1997. I think they thought
my partner was an illegal immigrant, and I was negotiating to pay for
his services. My partner isn't white, so naturally the only thing the
observant Italian cops could have assumed was that he was an illegal
immigrant. The only thing on me was my Harvard ID, and my partner had an
IATA card. They assumed we were Americans once we flashed them (they
were half right, I suppose) and bid us on our way, warning us to be
careful as it was a dangerous area. It was near Termini, and it wasn't
dangerous- apart from bumping into these muppets with badges and guns.
I doubt the cops were trying to shake down your operator for a guide.
They don't strike me as organised or resourceful enough for that.
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Dec 10th 2006, 9:42 pm
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:50:11 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:03:37 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
>Justice) wrote:
>>Martin wrote:
>>>As an aid to their paranoia?
>>Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
>>etc.
>>
>> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
>>warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
>>just our group ****in' paranoia.
>I can't imagine anyone paradoid ever getting into trouble.
>>BTW; Do you ever post anything of value or just moronic one-liners
>>hoping to get into a pissing contest?
>> I always skip over your posts rather than waste my time reading your BS
>>but perhaps I and the others who have killfiled you are missing
>>something.
>Martin is like that.
DFM too
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<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:03:37 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
>Justice) wrote:
>>Martin wrote:
>>>As an aid to their paranoia?
>>Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
>>etc.
>>
>> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
>>warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
>>just our group ****in' paranoia.
>I can't imagine anyone paradoid ever getting into trouble.
>>BTW; Do you ever post anything of value or just moronic one-liners
>>hoping to get into a pissing contest?
>> I always skip over your posts rather than waste my time reading your BS
>>but perhaps I and the others who have killfiled you are missing
>>something.
>Martin is like that.
DFM too
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Martin
Dec 10th 2006, 9:43 pm
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
On 10 Dec 2006 13:13:12 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:48:47 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>> <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> >On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:38:26 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
>> >Justice) wrote:
>> >
>> >>[email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >> Once at my hotel all that stuff goes into the room safe or my luggage,
>> >>I never use them while in the cities or towns. Regards, Walter
>> >
>> >Note that in quite a number of places it's important to carry your
>> >passport or some good ID on you.
>> Tattooed ID numbers are coming back into fashion in Ritalalaland.
>Actually I have never, ever been asked to show ID anywhere except for
>purposes like changing money, and being stopped by cops for traffic
>offenses.
I haven't even been stopped by cops for traffic offenses.
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>Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:48:47 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>> <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> >On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:38:26 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
>> >Justice) wrote:
>> >
>> >>[email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >> Once at my hotel all that stuff goes into the room safe or my luggage,
>> >>I never use them while in the cities or towns. Regards, Walter
>> >
>> >Note that in quite a number of places it's important to carry your
>> >passport or some good ID on you.
>> Tattooed ID numbers are coming back into fashion in Ritalalaland.
>Actually I have never, ever been asked to show ID anywhere except for
>purposes like changing money, and being stopped by cops for traffic
>offenses.
I haven't even been stopped by cops for traffic offenses.
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Martin
Dec 11th 2006, 6:55 am
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:42:01 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:50:11 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:03:37 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
>>Justice) wrote:
>>>Martin wrote:
>>>>As an aid to their paranoia?
>>>Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
>>>etc.
>>>
>>> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
>>>warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
>>>just our group ****in' paranoia.
>>I can't imagine anyone paradoid ever getting into trouble.
>>>BTW; Do you ever post anything of value or just moronic one-liners
>>>hoping to get into a pissing contest?
>>> I always skip over your posts rather than waste my time reading your BS
>>>but perhaps I and the others who have killfiled you are missing
>>>something.
>>Martin is like that.
>DFM too
<Madga>You missed a full stop.</Madga>
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>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:50:11 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:03:37 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
>>Justice) wrote:
>>>Martin wrote:
>>>>As an aid to their paranoia?
>>>Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
>>>etc.
>>>
>>> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
>>>warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
>>>just our group ****in' paranoia.
>>I can't imagine anyone paradoid ever getting into trouble.
>>>BTW; Do you ever post anything of value or just moronic one-liners
>>>hoping to get into a pissing contest?
>>> I always skip over your posts rather than waste my time reading your BS
>>>but perhaps I and the others who have killfiled you are missing
>>>something.
>>Martin is like that.
>DFM too
<Madga>You missed a full stop.</Madga>
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Dec 11th 2006, 8:03 am
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:55:44 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:42:01 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:50:11 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:03:37 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
>>>Justice) wrote:
>>>>Martin wrote:
>>>>>As an aid to their paranoia?
>>>>Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
>>>>etc.
>>>>
>>>> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
>>>>warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
>>>>just our group ****in' paranoia.
>>>I can't imagine anyone paradoid ever getting into trouble.
>>>>BTW; Do you ever post anything of value or just moronic one-liners
>>>>hoping to get into a pissing contest?
>>>> I always skip over your posts rather than waste my time reading your BS
>>>>but perhaps I and the others who have killfiled you are missing
>>>>something.
>>>Martin is like that.
>>DFM too
><Madga>You missed a full stop.</Madga>
Exclamation mark!
I've spent 40 years frequently travelling around Europe without ever
having been the victim of pickpockets. I don't even know anybody who has
been the victim of pick pockets. What am I doing wrong?
My son was mugged in the Hague. If he had had everything in one
wallet/neck pouch that would have just speeded things up. IME there is a
far higher risk of having a car broken into - twice in the Netherlands,
once in Rome and once in Antibes. The total of things stolen so far is
one road map and a very cheap radio belonging to Hertz.
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Martin
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:42:01 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:50:11 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:03:37 -0500, [email protected] (Poetic
>>>Justice) wrote:
>>>>Martin wrote:
>>>>>As an aid to their paranoia?
>>>>Yes foreign tourists never get pickpocketed in Rome, Paris, Barcelona
>>>>etc.
>>>>
>>>> And the posters who post about these incidents, guidebook/website
>>>>warnings, people I have met and 3 attempts on me personally is really
>>>>just our group ****in' paranoia.
>>>I can't imagine anyone paradoid ever getting into trouble.
>>>>BTW; Do you ever post anything of value or just moronic one-liners
>>>>hoping to get into a pissing contest?
>>>> I always skip over your posts rather than waste my time reading your BS
>>>>but perhaps I and the others who have killfiled you are missing
>>>>something.
>>>Martin is like that.
>>DFM too
><Madga>You missed a full stop.</Madga>
Exclamation mark!
I've spent 40 years frequently travelling around Europe without ever
having been the victim of pickpockets. I don't even know anybody who has
been the victim of pick pockets. What am I doing wrong?
My son was mugged in the Hague. If he had had everything in one
wallet/neck pouch that would have just speeded things up. IME there is a
far higher risk of having a car broken into - twice in the Netherlands,
once in Rome and once in Antibes. The total of things stolen so far is
one road map and a very cheap radio belonging to Hertz.
--
Martin
Dec 11th 2006, 8:10 am
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
Following up to [email protected] :
>aris....from what I read, is pickpocketing capital of the world :-)
What have you been reading? The Beano?
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>aris....from what I read, is pickpocketing capital of the world :-)
What have you been reading? The Beano?
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Dec 11th 2006, 8:11 am
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Following up to "RUSDC" <[email protected]> :
>> ... so, get a cup of tea and come on back!
>>
>> Done.
>?? ??
>?????
Good grief, she's outwitted you already.
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>> ... so, get a cup of tea and come on back!
>>
>> Done.
>?? ??
>?????
Good grief, she's outwitted you already.
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Dec 11th 2006, 8:14 am
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Re: Your Expirience with Belt Wallet or Neck Pouch...
Following up to [email protected] (Király) :
> If the strap is fairly strong
>then it could act like a garrotte as the thief tries to run away with it.
with any luck.
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> If the strap is fairly strong
>then it could act like a garrotte as the thief tries to run away with it.
with any luck.
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Tim C.
Dec 11th 2006, 8:26 am
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:14:03 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Following up to [email protected] (Kir�ly) :
>> If the strap is fairly strong
>>then it could act like a garrotte as the thief tries to run away with it.
>with any luck.
:-)
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Martin
wrote:
>Following up to [email protected] (Kir�ly) :
>> If the strap is fairly strong
>>then it could act like a garrotte as the thief tries to run away with it.
>with any luck.
:-)
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Martin