David Horne

<[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <1hpxzqn.7pi19amy0xxcN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
    > [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
    > royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
[]
    > > I don't wear a money belt FWIW. I keep my wallet (which is quite chunky)
    > > in my front pocket.
    >
    > Ditto. And if I'm carrying a lot of cash in an area or at a time of day
    > which I think might be slightly dubious, I usually keep 'working cash' in
    > a shirt or jacket pocket so I don't have to constantly open the wallet and
    > reveal the riches therein.

Another good idea. This all got me thinking though, how many UK people
travel abroad and worry about theft, but don't consider opening a bank
account with Nationwide for foreign withdrawals? :)

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Bob Fusillo

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
    > Personally I'll carry a neck wallet with my passport
    > and a credit card, maybe a couple of large bills. I carry
    > "walking around" money in a front pocket. I might carry
    > an ATM card in my other front pocket. But most of all
    > I avoid having to pull out the neckwallet in public places.
One problem with both is Airport Security. Unless you wear a turtle-neck or
a fully buttoned shirt or blouse, the cords from the neck wallet show.
Security wants to see what is hanging from it. It also makes a lump. The
waist wallet makes a lump too, and Security notices and sometimes asks to
see the item. There are bra wallets -- presumably a lump there would not be
bothersome to the wearer -- unless perhaps it was several thousand euro in
small bills.
rjf

Rita

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:13:19 -0500, "bob fusillo"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    ><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected] roups.com...
    >> Personally I'll carry a neck wallet with my passport
    >> and a credit card, maybe a couple of large bills. I carry
    >> "walking around" money in a front pocket. I might carry
    >> an ATM card in my other front pocket. But most of all
    >> I avoid having to pull out the neckwallet in public places.
    >One problem with both is Airport Security. Unless you wear a turtle-neck or
    >a fully buttoned shirt or blouse, the cords from the neck wallet show.
    >Security wants to see what is hanging from it. It also makes a lump. The
    >waist wallet makes a lump too, and Security notices and sometimes asks to
    >see the item. There are bra wallets -- presumably a lump there would not be
    >bothersome to the wearer -- unless perhaps it was several thousand euro in
    >small bills.
    >rjf

Why is that a problem? If security wants to see it, why would you
care? It is not illegal. Well, what is in mine is not:)

Erilar

In article <[email protected]>,
Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    > ... What makes you think I am from US?

Your English syntax doesn't sound like it, that's sure.

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-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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[email protected]

bob fusillo wrote:
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected] oups.com...
    > >
    > > Personally I'll carry a neck wallet with my passport
    > > and a credit card, maybe a couple of large bills. I carry
    > > "walking around" money in a front pocket. I might carry
    > > an ATM card in my other front pocket. But most of all
    > > I avoid having to pull out the neckwallet in public places.
    > >
    > One problem with both is Airport Security. Unless you wear a turtle-neck or
    > a fully buttoned shirt or blouse, the cords from the neck wallet show.
    > Security wants to see what is hanging from it. It also makes a lump. The
    > waist wallet makes a lump too, and Security notices and sometimes asks to
    > see the item. There are bra wallets -- presumably a lump there would not be
    > bothersome to the wearer -- unless perhaps it was several thousand euro in
    > small bills.
    > rjf

I always remove it when going through security. The old one had
metal zippers. Even now there is a good chance of having some
metal in it. So it goes through with my coat or something.

Runge

martin is desesperate trying to lengthen useless threads

"Martin" <[email protected]> a �crit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:46:10 +0000, [email protected]
    > (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
    > deansgate) wrote:
    >>Mimi <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected] oups.com...
    >>> >I have both, but I really never traveled before to area that was heavy
    >>> > on pickpocketing.
    >>> >
    >>> > Paris....from what I read, is pickpocketing capital of the world :-)
    >>> >
    >>> > so, anyone wants to share which solution is better, safer?
    >>> >
    >>> > If you had your neck wallet cut....tell us about it :-)
    >>> >
    >>> When I was last in Paris -- a year ago or so -- there were several
    >>> attempts
    >>> to get into my handbag on or around the Metro. I took to wearing it in
    >>> front
    >>> with my arms crossed over it..
    >>Have you considered a mouse-trap? :)
    > or a chastity belt?
    > --
    > Martin
    >

Erilar

In article <wjFdh.19845$YV4.12967@edtnps89>,
[email protected] (Kir�ly) wrote:

    > [email protected] wrote:
    > > so, anyone wants to share which solution is better, safer?
I think mine is safer yet. It's a pocket INside my slacks where I carry
large bills, a debit card I use at ATMs that doubles as credit card, my
passport outside airports, and plane ticket if I have a paper one. In
one side outside pocket I carry a coin purse with smaller bills and
coins and in another a small notebook with a credit card carrying my
foto, a bit harder for a thief to make use of. And I never wear a
tucked-in shirt, so I can yet "rape!" at anyone even reaching for the
outside pockets 8-) No one ever has.
    >
    > IMO go with a beneath-your-clothing money belt. It won't stop a
    > determined thief from demanding it from you at knifepoint but it will
    > thwart pickpockets.
If you have some money in a pocket, how is he to know it's there?
    >
    > Unless you are wearing a turtleneck or high-collared shirt, the strap of a
    > neck pouch is likely to be exposed. A pickpocket could fairly easily
    > slip a finger underneath and lift it out. If the strap is fairly strong
    > then it could act like a garrotte as the thief tries to run away with it.

I have one of those neck pouch things, but only use it in airports where
I have to keep showing people my passport and boarding pass. The rest of
any trip it's empty and packed in the bottom of my backpack.

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Mary Loomer (aka Erilar)
----------------------------------------
Es ist nichts schrecklicher als eine t�tige Unwissenheit.

-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

(There's nothing worse than ignorance in action.)

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Martin

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:16:01 +0000, [email protected]
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate) wrote:

    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >> In article <1hpxzqn.7pi19amy0xxcN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
    >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
    >> royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
    >[]
    >> > I don't wear a money belt FWIW. I keep my wallet (which is quite chunky)
    >> > in my front pocket.
    >>
    >> Ditto. And if I'm carrying a lot of cash in an area or at a time of day
    >> which I think might be slightly dubious, I usually keep 'working cash' in
    >> a shirt or jacket pocket so I don't have to constantly open the wallet and
    >> reveal the riches therein.
    >Another good idea. This all got me thinking though, how many UK people
    >travel abroad and worry about theft, but don't consider opening a bank
    >account with Nationwide for foreign withdrawals? :)

Have you thought of opening bank accounts abroad?
--

Martin

David Horne

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:16:01 +0000, [email protected]
    > (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
    > deansgate) wrote:
    >
    > ><[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> In article <1hpxzqn.7pi19amy0xxcN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
    > >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
    > >> royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
    > >[]
    > >> > I don't wear a money belt FWIW. I keep my wallet (which is quite chunky)
    > >> > in my front pocket.
    > >>
    > >> Ditto. And if I'm carrying a lot of cash in an area or at a time of day
    > >> which I think might be slightly dubious, I usually keep 'working cash' in
    > >> a shirt or jacket pocket so I don't have to constantly open the wallet and
    > >> reveal the riches therein.
    > >
    > >Another good idea. This all got me thinking though, how many UK people
    > >travel abroad and worry about theft, but don't consider opening a bank
    > >account with Nationwide for foreign withdrawals? :)
    >
    > Have you thought of opening bank accounts abroad?

Yes, but no. In retrospect, I would have saved money in Barcelona if I'd
done this, but not much, and it would have been a bit of a faff. I only
recently got my NIE from the cops there (which is for 'life' I suppose)-
meanwhile, I'd already received three payments into my UK account from
there!

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Martin

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:55:22 +0000, [email protected]
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate) wrote:

    >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:16:01 +0000, [email protected]
    >> (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
    >> deansgate) wrote:
    >>
    >> ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> In article <1hpxzqn.7pi19amy0xxcN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
    >> >> [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
    >> >> royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
    >> >[]
    >> >> > I don't wear a money belt FWIW. I keep my wallet (which is quite chunky)
    >> >> > in my front pocket.
    >> >>
    >> >> Ditto. And if I'm carrying a lot of cash in an area or at a time of day
    >> >> which I think might be slightly dubious, I usually keep 'working cash' in
    >> >> a shirt or jacket pocket so I don't have to constantly open the wallet and
    >> >> reveal the riches therein.
    >> >
    >> >Another good idea. This all got me thinking though, how many UK people
    >> >travel abroad and worry about theft, but don't consider opening a bank
    >> >account with Nationwide for foreign withdrawals? :)
    >>
    >> Have you thought of opening bank accounts abroad?
    >Yes, but no. In retrospect, I would have saved money in Barcelona if I'd
    >done this, but not much, and it would have been a bit of a faff. I only
    >recently got my NIE from the cops there (which is for 'life' I suppose)-
    >meanwhile, I'd already received three payments into my UK account from
    >there!

In the long term, it is worth having accounts in countries you visit
frequently.
--

Martin

Poldy

In article
<1hpxzqn.7pi19amy0xxcN%this_address_is_for_spam@ya hoo.co.uk>,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:

    > > In Barcelona, Paris, Rome and Prague, all of which have a reputation
    > > for pickpocketing, the vast majority of visitors have no problem at
    > > all, and if you wear a money belt and use the hotel safe for your
    > > valuables, you reduce the chance of anything happening to you by 90%.
    >
    > I don't wear a money belt FWIW. I keep my wallet (which is quite chunky)
    > in my front pocket.

I've survived Barcelona and Rome and all the other places which have
pickpocketing problems.

Been carrying a messenger bag (no real valuables in it though, other
than my sunglasses sometimes) and also a fanny pack on the left side of
my waist.

Yes I know, not fashionable. But short of a holster, very convenient
and lets me access my wallet and iPod inside very easily. Oh and a
camera bag on the right side of my waist. I can take it off with one
press of the plastic clasp.

Been in so many standing room only subway trains. Certainly an
opportunity to try to reach in to the fanny pack there but have been
lucky so far.

Often listening to the iPod so I must be an inviting target.

Turan Fettahoglu

    >>>I use the type of belt wallet which has a loop that goes over the belt.
    >>>The
    >>>wallet itself is tucked inside your trousers.

I tried a belt wallet when I visited Australia, but it was unpleasant in the
heat. So I divided up my few dollars into several places (trouser pocket,
jacket pocket, rucksack and deposited the rest in a WestPac savings account.

Before departure I emptied the account and had it cancelled. Moreover,
nobody tried to mug me.

[email protected]

poldy wrote:
    > In article
[snip]
    > > I don't wear a money belt FWIW. I keep my wallet (which is quite chunky)
    > > in my front pocket.
    > I've survived Barcelona and Rome and all the other places which have
    > pickpocketing problems.
    > Been carrying a messenger bag (no real valuables in it though, other
    > than my sunglasses sometimes) and also a fanny pack on the left side of
    > my waist.
    > Yes I know, not fashionable. But short of a holster, very convenient
    > and lets me access my wallet and iPod inside very easily. Oh and a
    > camera bag on the right side of my waist. I can take it off with one
    > press of the plastic clasp.
    > Been in so many standing room only subway trains. Certainly an
    > opportunity to try to reach in to the fanny pack there but have been
    > lucky so far.
    > Often listening to the iPod so I must be an inviting target.

Actually, I suspect you are presenting yourself quite the opposite.
For whatever reason, the fact that your bags don't contain
any "real" valuables, or the manner in which you manage the
contents of the fanny pack probably "mark" you as someone
not to bother with. All in all probably an image to cultivate
regardless of the correlation to reality.

The Reid

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:03:43 +0000,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:

    > I keep my wallet (which is quite chunky)
    >in my front pocket.

now, are you boasting or faking :-)
--
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"Christmas is the christianisation of the solstice" M.Reid(self appointed expert)
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The Reid

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:25:48 +0000,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
the royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:

    >I think Barcelona has a bad reputation too. Then again, it must depend.
    >I stayed near Termini and didn't so much as see an angry man, and I find
    >Barcelona fine too.

I think Barcelona has improved, especially the Rambla
--
Mike Reid
"Christmas is the Disneyfication of Christianity" Don Cupitt (theologian)
"Christmas is the christianisation of the solstice" M.Reid(self appointed expert)
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/happyxmas.htm"