Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
May 11th 2005, 7:43 am
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Following up to nitram
>>>Some in UK are badly converted work houses.
>>the hospitals near me are all modern.
>Which proves what? The hospitals in Reading are all ancient, one of
>them is a badly converted workhouse.
that not all hospitals are old.
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>>>Some in UK are badly converted work houses.
>>the hospitals near me are all modern.
>Which proves what? The hospitals in Reading are all ancient, one of
>them is a badly converted workhouse.
that not all hospitals are old.
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May 11th 2005, 7:43 am
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Following up to nitram
>>I was susprised by how little difference there is between insect screens
>>and _no_ insect screens when it comes to air flow.
>Hallelujah another convert :-)
that's two of you, form a political party, it'll be bigger than
Kilroy Silks
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>>I was susprised by how little difference there is between insect screens
>>and _no_ insect screens when it comes to air flow.
>Hallelujah another convert :-)
that's two of you, form a political party, it'll be bigger than
Kilroy Silks
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May 11th 2005, 7:43 am
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Following up to nitram
>>In London most of the population is a short distance from a major
>>railway station, the nearest airport (Heathrow) is a fair way out
>>(18 miles by car from centre) and the others (tiny City airport
>>excluded
>Why exclude it's there and used by many including me.
Its used by *few*, including you and me, in very small planes,
hence statistically insignificant.
>>) are well out of town.
>Try catching a train to Munich from Stanmore.
Try catching a plane from Charing X. This means nothing.
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>>In London most of the population is a short distance from a major
>>railway station, the nearest airport (Heathrow) is a fair way out
>>(18 miles by car from centre) and the others (tiny City airport
>>excluded
>Why exclude it's there and used by many including me.
Its used by *few*, including you and me, in very small planes,
hence statistically insignificant.
>>) are well out of town.
>Try catching a train to Munich from Stanmore.
Try catching a plane from Charing X. This means nothing.
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May 11th 2005, 7:43 am
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Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn
>> lovely building, we had lunch in restaurant nearbye
>> "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/pena1.htm"
>> that was also pretty cool, narrow streets help too.
>That might have been the restaurant we had lunch at- it certainly looks
>familiar, maybe we had a look inside it- but we were dining outside the
>restaurant, and even under the parasols, it was uncomfortably hot!
there are several in similar building, but I don't think any have
outside tables? The streets are narrow and its cooler inside.
"La Caballo Rojo" is my favourite there.
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>> lovely building, we had lunch in restaurant nearbye
>> "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/pena1.htm"
>> that was also pretty cool, narrow streets help too.
>That might have been the restaurant we had lunch at- it certainly looks
>familiar, maybe we had a look inside it- but we were dining outside the
>restaurant, and even under the parasols, it was uncomfortably hot!
there are several in similar building, but I don't think any have
outside tables? The streets are narrow and its cooler inside.
"La Caballo Rojo" is my favourite there.
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Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
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>Well yeah, like the tube (Waterloo to Euston) which is what you usually
>have to do if you're going from most destinations near London to
>somewhere further afield.
unless you live in SE London of course :-(
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>Well yeah, like the tube (Waterloo to Euston) which is what you usually
>have to do if you're going from most destinations near London to
>somewhere further afield.
unless you live in SE London of course :-(
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May 11th 2005, 7:43 am
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Following up to nitram
>>Mixi hasnt made it to the Alhambra.
>in Bradford?
No, the Granada, Tooting. My old local cinema, it was years
before I stopped being disappointed when other cinemas were not
like palaces.
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>>Mixi hasnt made it to the Alhambra.
>in Bradford?
No, the Granada, Tooting. My old local cinema, it was years
before I stopped being disappointed when other cinemas were not
like palaces.
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May 11th 2005, 7:43 am
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> Try standing out in the sun, then stand inside a shaded, well
>> ventilated patio in a traditional southern spanish building. Let
>> me know which is cooler.
>What is a "traditional southern spanish building"?
interior patio, few if any outside windows, fountain, read
Barberas post for more ideas on cooling houses without self
defeating aircon.
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>> Try standing out in the sun, then stand inside a shaded, well
>> ventilated patio in a traditional southern spanish building. Let
>> me know which is cooler.
>What is a "traditional southern spanish building"?
interior patio, few if any outside windows, fountain, read
Barberas post for more ideas on cooling houses without self
defeating aircon.
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Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
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>Natural coolings systems, and in the immediate context, in Spain. If you
>want to pull 44 C out of your arse, then be aware it's a very extreme
>temperature in Europe. Many countries in that part of the world don't
>even have highest recorded temperatures in the 40s, never mind 44.
Record highs (a bit out of date) :-
Madrid 39, Barcelona 36, London 34,Rome 40 Palermo 42 Seville
(pretty much the hottest) did 49 *once*, I've only experienced
40 in the Seville area (inland Andalucia).
Even Seville average highs are only 36.
Of course its different in US, NY 39 New Orleans 39 Oklahoma and
Kansas City made Mixis number (just).
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>Natural coolings systems, and in the immediate context, in Spain. If you
>want to pull 44 C out of your arse, then be aware it's a very extreme
>temperature in Europe. Many countries in that part of the world don't
>even have highest recorded temperatures in the 40s, never mind 44.
Record highs (a bit out of date) :-
Madrid 39, Barcelona 36, London 34,Rome 40 Palermo 42 Seville
(pretty much the hottest) did 49 *once*, I've only experienced
40 in the Seville area (inland Andalucia).
Even Seville average highs are only 36.
Of course its different in US, NY 39 New Orleans 39 Oklahoma and
Kansas City made Mixis number (just).
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May 11th 2005, 7:43 am
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> Which is not what was being talked about here.
>What was being talked about here?
as the man said, grow up.
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>> Which is not what was being talked about here.
>What was being talked about here?
as the man said, grow up.
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May 11th 2005, 7:43 am
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> and you believe that they'd be still alive, if they had air
>> conditioned Armour?
>No, but if they were still alive today, the argument would be a lot more
>meaningful and relevant.
Is this a record for Mixi absurdity?
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>> and you believe that they'd be still alive, if they had air
>> conditioned Armour?
>No, but if they were still alive today, the argument would be a lot more
>meaningful and relevant.
Is this a record for Mixi absurdity?
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> I wasn't aware that human physiology had changed so much in the meantime.
>It hasn't, but technology has moved on, and the only way to tolerate
>heat as people did 500 years ago is to live as they did, which means
>discarding almost every feature of modern society. Even then, one may
>not be able to tolerate heat--500 years ago, they didn't tolerate it so
>much as they had no choice.
you told me people don't acclimatise a while ago. Which statement
was bullshit? Or is it both?
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>> I wasn't aware that human physiology had changed so much in the meantime.
>It hasn't, but technology has moved on, and the only way to tolerate
>heat as people did 500 years ago is to live as they did, which means
>discarding almost every feature of modern society. Even then, one may
>not be able to tolerate heat--500 years ago, they didn't tolerate it so
>much as they had no choice.
you told me people don't acclimatise a while ago. Which statement
was bullshit? Or is it both?
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Following up to Gregory Morrow
>The anti - a/c crowd comes up with the silliest arguments. Do they feel the
>same way about potable water and electrical power I wonder...???
that is a silly argument in itself. Think about what will happen
if the whole world tries to use aircon for cooling. Think why US
cant even think about Kyoto.
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>The anti - a/c crowd comes up with the silliest arguments. Do they feel the
>same way about potable water and electrical power I wonder...???
that is a silly argument in itself. Think about what will happen
if the whole world tries to use aircon for cooling. Think why US
cant even think about Kyoto.
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Following up to Mxsmanic
>> by getting acclimatised to the local climate and using traditional
>> methods of staying cool.
>That never actually happened, though. When it got hot, life slowed to a
>crawl, and people simply sat around or slept until the temperature
>dropped.
>That's not really an option in modern society. So you have to
>air-condition instead.
explain why a siesta is more incompatible with "modern life" than
sleeping during darkness.
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>> by getting acclimatised to the local climate and using traditional
>> methods of staying cool.
>That never actually happened, though. When it got hot, life slowed to a
>crawl, and people simply sat around or slept until the temperature
>dropped.
>That's not really an option in modern society. So you have to
>air-condition instead.
explain why a siesta is more incompatible with "modern life" than
sleeping during darkness.
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Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
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>> or burning fuel in four litre engines to go 1/2 a mile to a
>> supermarket to do a bit of shopping.
>Alas, this seems to be happening more and more in the UK.
yep, plenty of poople buy the US way, hopefully more sensible
approaches will prevail in the end, I read some right wing
americans are now against gas guzzlers, if they can understand,
anybody can.
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>> or burning fuel in four litre engines to go 1/2 a mile to a
>> supermarket to do a bit of shopping.
>Alas, this seems to be happening more and more in the UK.
yep, plenty of poople buy the US way, hopefully more sensible
approaches will prevail in the end, I read some right wing
americans are now against gas guzzlers, if they can understand,
anybody can.
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Following up to nitram
>>Some of those engines get 60 miles to the gallon, much better than the
>>mileage enjoyed by Europeans in their 35-year-old second-hand Citroëns.
>All ten of them?
don't exaggerate, five.
>Perhaps you could give an example of a 4 litre petrol engined US built
>vehicle that does 60 miles to the gallon?
especially for the first mile
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>>Some of those engines get 60 miles to the gallon, much better than the
>>mileage enjoyed by Europeans in their 35-year-old second-hand Citroëns.
>All ten of them?
don't exaggerate, five.
>Perhaps you could give an example of a 4 litre petrol engined US built
>vehicle that does 60 miles to the gallon?
especially for the first mile
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