Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
May 8th 2005, 6:50 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Mon, 09 May 2005 03:54:38 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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>JohnT writes:
>> Assuming that you are still an American Citizen in reasonably good standing,
>> Why don't you stand (E) / run (A) for Prez in '08? Mixi v Arnold (following
>> a Constitutional Amendment) would be even better than Ross Perot v Dan
>> Quayle.
>I don't see the connection.
In that case you are the ideal candidate.
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>JohnT writes:
>> Assuming that you are still an American Citizen in reasonably good standing,
>> Why don't you stand (E) / run (A) for Prez in '08? Mixi v Arnold (following
>> a Constitutional Amendment) would be even better than Ross Perot v Dan
>> Quayle.
>I don't see the connection.
In that case you are the ideal candidate.
May 8th 2005, 6:51 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Sun, 8 May 2005 23:24:39 +0100, "JohnT"
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>> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> The Rev Gaston writes:
>>> > And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
>>> > temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
>>> The building seems to naturally gather and retain heat; very useful in
>>> the dead of winter, but not so much so at other times.
>> Well, move! It's ridiculous that you're using a/c.
>>> Also, the heating system in the building is very strange: sometimes the
>>> heat is on when it's warm outside, and sometimes the heat is off when
>>> it's cold outside.
>> Ah- I thought the automatic heat thing was a dumb US invention. Just
>> move!
>>> After running the A/C for about 40 minutes, the temperature in the room
>>> got down to about 23° C. Right now, it's only 10° C outside. Very
>>> strange.
>> Indeed. You clearly live above a stove. MOVE!
>He lives in a broom cupboard with no natural light above a McDonalds.
In a McD polystyrene box?
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>> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> The Rev Gaston writes:
>>> > And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
>>> > temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
>>> The building seems to naturally gather and retain heat; very useful in
>>> the dead of winter, but not so much so at other times.
>> Well, move! It's ridiculous that you're using a/c.
>>> Also, the heating system in the building is very strange: sometimes the
>>> heat is on when it's warm outside, and sometimes the heat is off when
>>> it's cold outside.
>> Ah- I thought the automatic heat thing was a dumb US invention. Just
>> move!
>>> After running the A/C for about 40 minutes, the temperature in the room
>>> got down to about 23° C. Right now, it's only 10° C outside. Very
>>> strange.
>> Indeed. You clearly live above a stove. MOVE!
>He lives in a broom cupboard with no natural light above a McDonalds.
In a McD polystyrene box?
May 8th 2005, 6:52 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Sun, 8 May 2005 23:45:27 +0100, "Keith W"
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>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> The Rev Gaston writes:
>>> And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
>>> temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
>> The building seems to naturally gather and retain heat; very useful in
>> the dead of winter, but not so much so at other times.
>> Also, the heating system in the building is very strange: sometimes the
>> heat is on when it's warm outside, and sometimes the heat is off when
>> it's cold outside.
>> After running the A/C for about 40 minutes, the temperature in the room
>> got down to about 23° C. Right now, it's only 10° C outside. Very
>> strange.
>Then turn off the bloody A/C and open a window
>Sheesh they must give free lobotomies to Americans in Paris
or a DIY haircut that went too far.
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>> The Rev Gaston writes:
>>> And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
>>> temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
>> The building seems to naturally gather and retain heat; very useful in
>> the dead of winter, but not so much so at other times.
>> Also, the heating system in the building is very strange: sometimes the
>> heat is on when it's warm outside, and sometimes the heat is off when
>> it's cold outside.
>> After running the A/C for about 40 minutes, the temperature in the room
>> got down to about 23° C. Right now, it's only 10° C outside. Very
>> strange.
>Then turn off the bloody A/C and open a window
>Sheesh they must give free lobotomies to Americans in Paris
or a DIY haircut that went too far.
May 8th 2005, 6:55 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> nitram writes:
>> Try shutting down a few of your servers.
> The heat does not come from the computers.
>> Maybe the thermostat relies on internal temperature in another part of
>> the building?
> I don't know.
Then find out and get the heating shut off
Keith
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> nitram writes:
>> Try shutting down a few of your servers.
> The heat does not come from the computers.
>> Maybe the thermostat relies on internal temperature in another part of
>> the building?
> I don't know.
Then find out and get the heating shut off
Keith
May 8th 2005, 6:56 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Mon, 09 May 2005 03:52:16 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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>nitram writes:
>> It' was maximum 11 DegC here today, opening a window was more than
>> sufficient to lower the temperature.
>With a window open and no A/C, the temperature in my apartment rapidly
>rises to around 26° C. Right now, the A/C is off, the window is open,
>and it's 26° inside and 6° outside.
Have you turned off the heating or have you no control of it?
Do Paris hotels still have fittings on the radiator taps to prevent
the guests turning them on sufficiently to have any effect on room
temperature?
wrote:
>nitram writes:
>> It' was maximum 11 DegC here today, opening a window was more than
>> sufficient to lower the temperature.
>With a window open and no A/C, the temperature in my apartment rapidly
>rises to around 26° C. Right now, the A/C is off, the window is open,
>and it's 26° inside and 6° outside.
Have you turned off the heating or have you no control of it?
Do Paris hotels still have fittings on the radiator taps to prevent
the guests turning them on sufficiently to have any effect on room
temperature?
May 8th 2005, 7:05 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 May 2005 23:17:45 +0100, [email protected]
> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
> wrote:
>
> >JohnT <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >[]
> >> It has become more and more the case over the past few years that cars sold
> >> in the UK - even very small, inexpensive cars - are tending to have air
> >> conditioning fitted as standard. My Nissan Micra doesn't and I don't feel
> >> the need for it.
> >
> >I agree that you don't need it. It's one of those things which is nice
> >to have (and waste energy with!) though- especially if the car has been
> >under the sun on a hot day.
>
> It doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect on the fuel consumption
> of either of our cars.
When I used to drive, I have to say I _did_ notice a difference in fuel
consumption. The car I was driving the most then was a 1994 Nissan
Sentra. I didn't figure it out scientifically, but it seemed that full
A/C could add as much as a third to the consumption.
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> On Sun, 8 May 2005 23:17:45 +0100, [email protected]
> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
> wrote:
>
> >JohnT <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >[]
> >> It has become more and more the case over the past few years that cars sold
> >> in the UK - even very small, inexpensive cars - are tending to have air
> >> conditioning fitted as standard. My Nissan Micra doesn't and I don't feel
> >> the need for it.
> >
> >I agree that you don't need it. It's one of those things which is nice
> >to have (and waste energy with!) though- especially if the car has been
> >under the sun on a hot day.
>
> It doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect on the fuel consumption
> of either of our cars.
When I used to drive, I have to say I _did_ notice a difference in fuel
consumption. The car I was driving the most then was a 1994 Nissan
Sentra. I didn't figure it out scientifically, but it seemed that full
A/C could add as much as a third to the consumption.
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
May 8th 2005, 8:00 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Mon, 09 May 2005 03:50:28 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Keith W writes:
>> Then turn off the bloody A/C and open a window
>I already have windows open, as I usually do.
Window open, and A/C running?
You are conditioning the whole of Paris!
Jim.
wrote:
>Keith W writes:
>> Then turn off the bloody A/C and open a window
>I already have windows open, as I usually do.
Window open, and A/C running?
You are conditioning the whole of Paris!
Jim.
May 8th 2005, 8:16 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
nitram writes:
> Have you turned off the heating or have you no control of it?
There are control knobs on the radiators, but they don't have that much
of an effect, since the hot water pipes that serve the radiators are in
the same room and radiate about as much heat themselves. The
temperature of the radiators doesn't seem to change much even after I
adjust them.
> Do Paris hotels still have fittings on the radiator taps to prevent
> the guests turning them on sufficiently to have any effect on room
> temperature?
I don't know. I haven't stayed in a Paris hotel in many years.
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> Have you turned off the heating or have you no control of it?
There are control knobs on the radiators, but they don't have that much
of an effect, since the hot water pipes that serve the radiators are in
the same room and radiate about as much heat themselves. The
temperature of the radiators doesn't seem to change much even after I
adjust them.
> Do Paris hotels still have fittings on the radiator taps to prevent
> the guests turning them on sufficiently to have any effect on room
> temperature?
I don't know. I haven't stayed in a Paris hotel in many years.
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May 8th 2005, 8:17 pm
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nitram writes:
> Windows - the energy efficient answer to air-conditioning :-)
Only if it is cooler outside than inside. And for it to really work,
you need more than one window, so air can move through the house. A
single window will not have much of an effect.
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> Windows - the energy efficient answer to air-conditioning :-)
Only if it is cooler outside than inside. And for it to really work,
you need more than one window, so air can move through the house. A
single window will not have much of an effect.
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May 8th 2005, 8:29 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Mon, 09 May 2005 08:00:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>On Mon, 09 May 2005 03:50:28 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Keith W writes:
>>> Then turn off the bloody A/C and open a window
>>I already have windows open, as I usually do.
>Window open, and A/C running?
>You are conditioning the whole of Paris!
So it's him sucking arctic air into the Netherlands. I might have
guessed.
>On Mon, 09 May 2005 03:50:28 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Keith W writes:
>>> Then turn off the bloody A/C and open a window
>>I already have windows open, as I usually do.
>Window open, and A/C running?
>You are conditioning the whole of Paris!
So it's him sucking arctic air into the Netherlands. I might have
guessed.
May 8th 2005, 8:34 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Mon, 09 May 2005 10:16:17 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>nitram writes:
>> Have you turned off the heating or have you no control of it?
>There are control knobs on the radiators, but they don't have that much
>of an effect, since the hot water pipes that serve the radiators are in
>the same room and radiate about as much heat themselves. The
>temperature of the radiators doesn't seem to change much even after I
>adjust them.
Insulating them helps.
wrote:
>nitram writes:
>> Have you turned off the heating or have you no control of it?
>There are control knobs on the radiators, but they don't have that much
>of an effect, since the hot water pipes that serve the radiators are in
>the same room and radiate about as much heat themselves. The
>temperature of the radiators doesn't seem to change much even after I
>adjust them.
Insulating them helps.
May 8th 2005, 8:36 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Mon, 09 May 2005 10:17:22 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>nitram writes:
>> Windows - the energy efficient answer to air-conditioning :-)
>Only if it is cooler outside than inside.
If your room is 24DegC with air-conditioning on then ...
> And for it to really work,
>you need more than one window, so air can move through the house.
House? I thought you lived in one room?
> A
>single window will not have much of an effect.
That depends on the size and type of window opening.
wrote:
>nitram writes:
>> Windows - the energy efficient answer to air-conditioning :-)
>Only if it is cooler outside than inside.
If your room is 24DegC with air-conditioning on then ...
> And for it to really work,
>you need more than one window, so air can move through the house.
House? I thought you lived in one room?
> A
>single window will not have much of an effect.
That depends on the size and type of window opening.
May 8th 2005, 9:22 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> nitram writes:
>> Windows - the energy efficient answer to air-conditioning :-)
> Only if it is cooler outside than inside. And for it to really work,
> you need more than one window, so air can move through the house. A
> single window will not have much of an effect.
Unless you use a fan, so much cheaper than AC
Keith
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> nitram writes:
>> Windows - the energy efficient answer to air-conditioning :-)
> Only if it is cooler outside than inside. And for it to really work,
> you need more than one window, so air can move through the house. A
> single window will not have much of an effect.
Unless you use a fan, so much cheaper than AC
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May 8th 2005, 9:24 pm
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> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 May 2005 23:17:45 +0100, [email protected]
>> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
>> wrote:
>> >JohnT <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >[]
>> >> It has become more and more the case over the past few years that cars
>> >> sold
>> >> in the UK - even very small, inexpensive cars - are tending to have
>> >> air
>> >> conditioning fitted as standard. My Nissan Micra doesn't and I don't
>> >> feel
>> >> the need for it.
>> >
>> >I agree that you don't need it. It's one of those things which is nice
>> >to have (and waste energy with!) though- especially if the car has been
>> >under the sun on a hot day.
>> It doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect on the fuel consumption
>> of either of our cars.
> When I used to drive, I have to say I _did_ notice a difference in fuel
> consumption. The car I was driving the most then was a 1994 Nissan
> Sentra. I didn't figure it out scientifically, but it seemed that full
> A/C could add as much as a third to the consumption.
Hmm I drive my Rover 75 with the AC on in summer and off in winter
and in my expeirence the difference is minimal. I get about 30 mpg with it
on
and 32 off
Keith
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> nitram <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 May 2005 23:17:45 +0100, [email protected]
>> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
>> wrote:
>> >JohnT <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >[]
>> >> It has become more and more the case over the past few years that cars
>> >> sold
>> >> in the UK - even very small, inexpensive cars - are tending to have
>> >> air
>> >> conditioning fitted as standard. My Nissan Micra doesn't and I don't
>> >> feel
>> >> the need for it.
>> >
>> >I agree that you don't need it. It's one of those things which is nice
>> >to have (and waste energy with!) though- especially if the car has been
>> >under the sun on a hot day.
>> It doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect on the fuel consumption
>> of either of our cars.
> When I used to drive, I have to say I _did_ notice a difference in fuel
> consumption. The car I was driving the most then was a 1994 Nissan
> Sentra. I didn't figure it out scientifically, but it seemed that full
> A/C could add as much as a third to the consumption.
Hmm I drive my Rover 75 with the AC on in summer and off in winter
and in my expeirence the difference is minimal. I get about 30 mpg with it
on
and 32 off
Keith
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May 8th 2005, 9:29 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Mon, 9 May 2005 02:54:23 +0100, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco)
wrote:
>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> nitram writes:
>>
>> > It' was maximum 11 DegC here today, opening a window was more than
>> > sufficient to lower the temperature.
>>
>> With a window open and no A/C, the temperature in my apartment rapidly
>> rises to around 26° C. Right now, the A/C is off, the window is open,
>> and it's 26° inside and 6° outside.
>So, just ****ing _move_ and stop whinging about your indoor
>temperatures.
He has no money, remember?
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wrote:
>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> nitram writes:
>>
>> > It' was maximum 11 DegC here today, opening a window was more than
>> > sufficient to lower the temperature.
>>
>> With a window open and no A/C, the temperature in my apartment rapidly
>> rises to around 26° C. Right now, the A/C is off, the window is open,
>> and it's 26° inside and 6° outside.
>So, just ****ing _move_ and stop whinging about your indoor
>temperatures.
He has no money, remember?
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