Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
May 8th 2005, 7:39 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
The Rev Gaston writes:
> There isn't a taboo - whatever gave you that idea? It's simply that
> most people don't have such an aversion to the heat as you do.
Then why do they always give _other_ reasons for not using A/C, such as
bogus concerns about germs and allergies, lectures on the decadence of
refrigeration (although heating apparently is not decadent), and so on?
> I find it uncomfortable also - though I'm not sure that fashions in
> "tank tops" are the issue.
Women's fashions are often much more lightweight than men's fashions
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> There isn't a taboo - whatever gave you that idea? It's simply that
> most people don't have such an aversion to the heat as you do.
Then why do they always give _other_ reasons for not using A/C, such as
bogus concerns about germs and allergies, lectures on the decadence of
refrigeration (although heating apparently is not decadent), and so on?
> I find it uncomfortable also - though I'm not sure that fashions in
> "tank tops" are the issue.
Women's fashions are often much more lightweight than men's fashions
(indeed, the only "fashion" for men is a perpetual suit).
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May 8th 2005, 7:40 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
nitram writes:
> That's one of the most stupid things you have ever posted.
If that were true, then you could have easily refuted it, instead of
resorting to yet another personal attack.
> They aren't over heated, they are under ventilated.
Ventilation is not the issue; heat is the issue.
> Do you have air-conditioning in your room?
Yes, and it's running right now.
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> That's one of the most stupid things you have ever posted.
If that were true, then you could have easily refuted it, instead of
resorting to yet another personal attack.
> They aren't over heated, they are under ventilated.
Ventilation is not the issue; heat is the issue.
> Do you have air-conditioning in your room?
Yes, and it's running right now.
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May 8th 2005, 7:42 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
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> If that were true, then you could have easily refuted it, instead of
> resorting to yet another personal attack.
Bzzt. It's too early in this thread for Mixi's Law. Try again please.
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> If that were true, then you could have easily refuted it, instead of
> resorting to yet another personal attack.
Bzzt. It's too early in this thread for Mixi's Law. Try again please.
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May 8th 2005, 7:46 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On 2005-05-08 21:39:20 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
> The Rev Gaston writes:
>
>> There isn't a taboo - whatever gave you that idea? It's simply that
>> most people don't have such an aversion to the heat as you do.
>
> Then why do they always give _other_ reasons for not using A/C, such as
> bogus concerns about germs and allergies, lectures on the decadence of
> refrigeration (although heating apparently is not decadent), and so on?
"They" do not "always" do so. Apart from that, you raised a very valid point.
>
>> I find it uncomfortable also - though I'm not sure that fashions in
>> "tank tops" are the issue.
>
> Women's fashions are often much more lightweight than men's fashions
> (indeed, the only "fashion" for men is a perpetual suit).
Perhaps - but "tank tops" are less than perpetual.
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> The Rev Gaston writes:
>
>> There isn't a taboo - whatever gave you that idea? It's simply that
>> most people don't have such an aversion to the heat as you do.
>
> Then why do they always give _other_ reasons for not using A/C, such as
> bogus concerns about germs and allergies, lectures on the decadence of
> refrigeration (although heating apparently is not decadent), and so on?
"They" do not "always" do so. Apart from that, you raised a very valid point.
>
>> I find it uncomfortable also - though I'm not sure that fashions in
>> "tank tops" are the issue.
>
> Women's fashions are often much more lightweight than men's fashions
> (indeed, the only "fashion" for men is a perpetual suit).
Perhaps - but "tank tops" are less than perpetual.
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May 8th 2005, 7:47 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On 2005-05-08 21:40:44 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]> said:
> nitram writes:
>
>> That's one of the most stupid things you have ever posted.
>
> If that were true, then you could have easily refuted it, instead of
> resorting to yet another personal attack.
>
>> They aren't over heated, they are under ventilated.
>
> Ventilation is not the issue; heat is the issue.
>
>> Do you have air-conditioning in your room?
>
> Yes, and it's running right now.
And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
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> nitram writes:
>
>> That's one of the most stupid things you have ever posted.
>
> If that were true, then you could have easily refuted it, instead of
> resorting to yet another personal attack.
>
>> They aren't over heated, they are under ventilated.
>
> Ventilation is not the issue; heat is the issue.
>
>> Do you have air-conditioning in your room?
>
> Yes, and it's running right now.
And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
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May 8th 2005, 8:02 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> writes:
>
>
>>It's not a problem- it's the entire beauty of the system, designed as it
>>is for the London weather, where hot weather _is_ of a short duration.
>
>
> It won't be of short duration in the future.
Well, one reason Europe does not have the ubiquitous
air-conditioning one finds in much of the U.S. is because
until the last few years, it never really NEEDED it. Now
that "global warming" appears to be making itself felt
(despite denials by our scientifically-challenged
president), that may change.
>
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> writes:
>
>
>>It's not a problem- it's the entire beauty of the system, designed as it
>>is for the London weather, where hot weather _is_ of a short duration.
>
>
> It won't be of short duration in the future.
Well, one reason Europe does not have the ubiquitous
air-conditioning one finds in much of the U.S. is because
until the last few years, it never really NEEDED it. Now
that "global warming" appears to be making itself felt
(despite denials by our scientifically-challenged
president), that may change.
>
May 8th 2005, 8:21 am
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> nitram writes:
>> by getting acclimatised to the local climate and using traditional
>> methods of staying cool.
> That never actually happened, though. When it got hot, life slowed to a
> crawl, and people simply sat around or slept until the temperature
> dropped.
> That's not really an option in modern society. So you have to
> air-condition instead.
>> British troops lived in barracks without air conditioning in Singapore
>> right up to independence. Likewise French troops stationed in the
>> tropics.
> They were in the military, which by definition must often endure
> considerable hardships.
Do you just make this shit up from whole cloth,
or do you have a comedy writer?
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> nitram writes:
>> by getting acclimatised to the local climate and using traditional
>> methods of staying cool.
> That never actually happened, though. When it got hot, life slowed to a
> crawl, and people simply sat around or slept until the temperature
> dropped.
> That's not really an option in modern society. So you have to
> air-condition instead.
>> British troops lived in barracks without air conditioning in Singapore
>> right up to independence. Likewise French troops stationed in the
>> tropics.
> They were in the military, which by definition must often endure
> considerable hardships.
Do you just make this shit up from whole cloth,
or do you have a comedy writer?
May 8th 2005, 8:21 am
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> won't hesitate to overheat their buildings in winter. Some stores here
> in Paris are so overheated during the winter that I avoid visiting them.
Yes, that's the desired result. The setting on the
thermostat is set to "mixiphobe"
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> won't hesitate to overheat their buildings in winter. Some stores here
> in Paris are so overheated during the winter that I avoid visiting them.
Yes, that's the desired result. The setting on the
thermostat is set to "mixiphobe"
May 8th 2005, 8:21 am
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> The Rev Gaston writes:
>> There isn't a taboo - whatever gave you that idea? It's simply that
>> most people don't have such an aversion to the heat as you do.
> Then why do they always give _other_ reasons for not using A/C [...]?
They don't. They often give other reasons.
> Women's fashions are often much more lightweight than men's fashions
> (indeed, the only "fashion" for men is a perpetual suit).
Ah. Your ignorance of men's fashion is added to the long list
of your other ignorances. Hiking boots, and a greasy hamburger
being stuffed into your "vegetarian" mouth is another fashion
statement.
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> The Rev Gaston writes:
>> There isn't a taboo - whatever gave you that idea? It's simply that
>> most people don't have such an aversion to the heat as you do.
> Then why do they always give _other_ reasons for not using A/C [...]?
They don't. They often give other reasons.
> Women's fashions are often much more lightweight than men's fashions
> (indeed, the only "fashion" for men is a perpetual suit).
Ah. Your ignorance of men's fashion is added to the long list
of your other ignorances. Hiking boots, and a greasy hamburger
being stuffed into your "vegetarian" mouth is another fashion
statement.
May 8th 2005, 8:24 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> Gregory Morrow writes:
> > That's because Israel is under a permanent state of siege from it's
enemies.
> Israel is perpetually belligerent towards its neighbors.
And Israel's neighbors are perpetually belligerent towards Israel.
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> Gregory Morrow writes:
> > That's because Israel is under a permanent state of siege from it's
enemies.
> Israel is perpetually belligerent towards its neighbors.
And Israel's neighbors are perpetually belligerent towards Israel.
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May 8th 2005, 8:27 am
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> They don't. They often give other reasons.
Not in my experience.
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> They don't. They often give other reasons.
Not in my experience.
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May 8th 2005, 8:28 am
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> Gregory Morrow writes:
>> The anti - a/c crowd comes up with the silliest arguments. Do they feel
>> the
>> same way about potable water and electrical power I wonder...???
> There is a taboo among Europeans and some others concerning air
> conditioning.
> I had someone with a bad cold just a few days ago me tell me that she
> "got it from the air conditioning," which is nonsense. Air conditioning
> has absolutely no effect on infectious diseases, allergies, or anything
> else.
This is of course totally incorrect, badly maintained AC units
are notorious for spreading legionnaires disease. Indeed
the outbreak which got the disease its name was caused
by the AC system at a convention for ex-service personnel
in Philadelphia USA
http://www.multiline.com.au/~mg/legion1.html
<Quote>
Though domestic air conditioners have never been found to cause
Legionnaires Disease, two types of domestic systems, ducted and
mobile, which use water as a coolant, can provide ideal conditions
for the organism to multiply.
For this reason the West Australian Health Department now advises that
evaporative air coolers, commonly used in smaller commercial premises
and in homes, should also be cleaned regularly.
</Quote>
Keith
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> Gregory Morrow writes:
>> The anti - a/c crowd comes up with the silliest arguments. Do they feel
>> the
>> same way about potable water and electrical power I wonder...???
> There is a taboo among Europeans and some others concerning air
> conditioning.
> I had someone with a bad cold just a few days ago me tell me that she
> "got it from the air conditioning," which is nonsense. Air conditioning
> has absolutely no effect on infectious diseases, allergies, or anything
> else.
This is of course totally incorrect, badly maintained AC units
are notorious for spreading legionnaires disease. Indeed
the outbreak which got the disease its name was caused
by the AC system at a convention for ex-service personnel
in Philadelphia USA
http://www.multiline.com.au/~mg/legion1.html
<Quote>
Though domestic air conditioners have never been found to cause
Legionnaires Disease, two types of domestic systems, ducted and
mobile, which use water as a coolant, can provide ideal conditions
for the organism to multiply.
For this reason the West Australian Health Department now advises that
evaporative air coolers, commonly used in smaller commercial premises
and in homes, should also be cleaned regularly.
</Quote>
Keith
May 8th 2005, 8:29 am
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The Rev Gaston writes:
> And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
> temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
The building seems to naturally gather and retain heat; very useful in
the dead of winter, but not so much so at other times.
Also, the heating system in the building is very strange: sometimes the
heat is on when it's warm outside, and sometimes the heat is off when
it's cold outside.
After running the A/C for about 40 minutes, the temperature in the room
got down to about 23° C. Right now, it's only 10° C outside. Very
strange.
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> And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
> temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
The building seems to naturally gather and retain heat; very useful in
the dead of winter, but not so much so at other times.
Also, the heating system in the building is very strange: sometimes the
heat is on when it's warm outside, and sometimes the heat is off when
it's cold outside.
After running the A/C for about 40 minutes, the temperature in the room
got down to about 23° C. Right now, it's only 10° C outside. Very
strange.
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May 8th 2005, 8:30 am
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> Well, one reason Europe does not have the ubiquitous
> air-conditioning one finds in much of the U.S. is because
> until the last few years, it never really NEEDED it.
True, for most of Europe. But the times are changing, rapidly.
> Now that "global warming" appears to be making itself felt
> (despite denials by our scientifically-challenged
> president), that may change.
There will be no alternative.
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> Well, one reason Europe does not have the ubiquitous
> air-conditioning one finds in much of the U.S. is because
> until the last few years, it never really NEEDED it.
True, for most of Europe. But the times are changing, rapidly.
> Now that "global warming" appears to be making itself felt
> (despite denials by our scientifically-challenged
> president), that may change.
There will be no alternative.
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May 8th 2005, 8:31 am
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> The Rev Gaston writes:
>
> > And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
> > temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
>
> The building seems to naturally gather and retain heat; very useful in
> the dead of winter, but not so much so at other times.
Well, move! It's ridiculous that you're using a/c.
> Also, the heating system in the building is very strange: sometimes the
> heat is on when it's warm outside, and sometimes the heat is off when
> it's cold outside.
Ah- I thought the automatic heat thing was a dumb US invention. Just
move!
> After running the A/C for about 40 minutes, the temperature in the room
> got down to about 23° C. Right now, it's only 10° C outside. Very
> strange.
Indeed. You clearly live above a stove. MOVE!
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> The Rev Gaston writes:
>
> > And I'm wearing a fleece right now. Perhaps there is a precipitous
> > temperature gradient between your apartment and mine?
>
> The building seems to naturally gather and retain heat; very useful in
> the dead of winter, but not so much so at other times.
Well, move! It's ridiculous that you're using a/c.
> Also, the heating system in the building is very strange: sometimes the
> heat is on when it's warm outside, and sometimes the heat is off when
> it's cold outside.
Ah- I thought the automatic heat thing was a dumb US invention. Just
move!
> After running the A/C for about 40 minutes, the temperature in the room
> got down to about 23° C. Right now, it's only 10° C outside. Very
> strange.
Indeed. You clearly live above a stove. MOVE!
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