Three biggest surprises in Europe
Jul 17th 2005, 10:56 pm
#136
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Re: Three biggest surprises in Europe
Following up to Mxsmanic
>> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
>> see why toilet is more accurate.
>That used to be true for toilet, but it isn't in modern usage.
>"Making one's toilet" is not a phrase frequently heard these days.
Its more common by miles than lavatory used to mean washing,
(especially in la belle france I suspect) I for one and you for
another are quite clear how to phrase "making ones toilet", not
so sure for lavatory.
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>> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
>> see why toilet is more accurate.
>That used to be true for toilet, but it isn't in modern usage.
>"Making one's toilet" is not a phrase frequently heard these days.
Its more common by miles than lavatory used to mean washing,
(especially in la belle france I suspect) I for one and you for
another are quite clear how to phrase "making ones toilet", not
so sure for lavatory.
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Jul 17th 2005, 11:05 pm
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Re: Three biggest surprises in Europe
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:56:53 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Mxsmanic
>>> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
>>> see why toilet is more accurate.
>>That used to be true for toilet, but it isn't in modern usage.
>>"Making one's toilet" is not a phrase frequently heard these days.
>Its more common by miles than lavatory used to mean washing,
>(especially in la belle france I suspect) I for one and you for
>another are quite clear how to phrase "making ones toilet", not
>so sure for lavatory.
Pissing into the wind?
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Mxsmanic
>>> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
>>> see why toilet is more accurate.
>>That used to be true for toilet, but it isn't in modern usage.
>>"Making one's toilet" is not a phrase frequently heard these days.
>Its more common by miles than lavatory used to mean washing,
>(especially in la belle france I suspect) I for one and you for
>another are quite clear how to phrase "making ones toilet", not
>so sure for lavatory.
Pissing into the wind?
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Jul 18th 2005, 4:14 am
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Re: Three biggest surprises in Europe
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:53:35 +0100, The Reids wrote:
> Following up to Mxsmanic
>>The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet."
> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
> see why toilet is more accurate.
It depends where you are, how the word "toilet" is used. In the US, the
word toilet is generally used in reference to the fixture for defication
and urination. You should expect to get some pretty odd looks if you say
you're going to go wash your hands in the toilet.
The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet", ONLY if
you're in one of those places that use "toilet" to refer to a room, not
just a fixture. Otherwise the most correct and specific term for the room
itself is whatever is used locally - toilet, WC, restroom, baños, etc.
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> Following up to Mxsmanic
>>The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet."
> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
> see why toilet is more accurate.
It depends where you are, how the word "toilet" is used. In the US, the
word toilet is generally used in reference to the fixture for defication
and urination. You should expect to get some pretty odd looks if you say
you're going to go wash your hands in the toilet.
The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet", ONLY if
you're in one of those places that use "toilet" to refer to a room, not
just a fixture. Otherwise the most correct and specific term for the room
itself is whatever is used locally - toilet, WC, restroom, baños, etc.
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Jul 18th 2005, 4:38 am
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Re: Three biggest surprises in Europe
Following up to BB
>> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
>> see why toilet is more accurate.
>It depends where you are, how the word "toilet" is used. In the US, the
>word toilet is generally used in reference to the fixture for defication
>and urination. You should expect to get some pretty odd looks if you say
>you're going to go wash your hands in the toilet.
i was meaning originally, not now.
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>> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
>> see why toilet is more accurate.
>It depends where you are, how the word "toilet" is used. In the US, the
>word toilet is generally used in reference to the fixture for defication
>and urination. You should expect to get some pretty odd looks if you say
>you're going to go wash your hands in the toilet.
i was meaning originally, not now.
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Jul 18th 2005, 5:45 am
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Re: Three biggest surprises in Europe
Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet", ONLY if
>>you're in one of those places that use "toilet" to refer to a room, not
>>just a fixture. Otherwise the most correct and specific term for the room
>>itself is whatever is used locally - toilet, WC, restroom, baños, etc.
> The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism, and the fact that
> Americans have use the word mostly for the porcelain throne in
> the bathroom (except when they douse on some toilet water)
> doesn't change that.
They are all euphamisms; toilette in french, banos in Spanish, WC in England,
restroom in America. ALL Euphemisms.
Any guide book worth it's salt will explain to you what the local folks call
that room we go to to relieve ourselves. If you are smart, you will learn what
that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
Julie
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>>The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet", ONLY if
>>you're in one of those places that use "toilet" to refer to a room, not
>>just a fixture. Otherwise the most correct and specific term for the room
>>itself is whatever is used locally - toilet, WC, restroom, baños, etc.
> The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism, and the fact that
> Americans have use the word mostly for the porcelain throne in
> the bathroom (except when they douse on some toilet water)
> doesn't change that.
They are all euphamisms; toilette in french, banos in Spanish, WC in England,
restroom in America. ALL Euphemisms.
Any guide book worth it's salt will explain to you what the local folks call
that room we go to to relieve ourselves. If you are smart, you will learn what
that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
Julie
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Jul 18th 2005, 6:13 am
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Re: Three biggest surprises in Europe
Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you are smart, you will learn what
> that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
to make sure I got it correct!
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> If you are smart, you will learn what
> that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
to make sure I got it correct!
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jul 18th 2005, 6:21 am
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Re: Three biggest surprises in Europe
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
wrote:
> Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If you are smart, you will learn what
> > that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
> Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> to make sure I got it correct!
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
tell us ! which one did you use ?
wrote:
> Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If you are smart, you will learn what
> > that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
> Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> to make sure I got it correct!
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
tell us ! which one did you use ?
Jul 18th 2005, 6:22 am
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> wrote:
> > Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > If you are smart, you will learn what
> > > that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
> >
> > Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> > triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> > can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> > to make sure I got it correct!
[]
> tell us ! which one did you use ?
Well, which one would you have?
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> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> wrote:
> > Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > If you are smart, you will learn what
> > > that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
> >
> > Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> > triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> > can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> > to make sure I got it correct!
[]
> tell us ! which one did you use ?
Well, which one would you have?
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Jul 18th 2005, 6:24 am
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> > wrote:
> > > Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you are smart, you will learn what
> > > > that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
> > >
> > > Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> > > triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> > > can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> > > to make sure I got it correct!
> []
> > tell us ! which one did you use ?
> Well, which one would you have?
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
I asked you first....
wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> > wrote:
> > > Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you are smart, you will learn what
> > > > that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
> > >
> > > Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> > > triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> > > can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> > > to make sure I got it correct!
> []
> > tell us ! which one did you use ?
> Well, which one would you have?
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
I asked you first....
Jul 18th 2005, 6:25 am
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> wrote:
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> > > wrote:
> > > > Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If you are smart, you will learn what
> > > > > that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
> > > >
> > > > Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> > > > triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> > > > can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> > > > to make sure I got it correct!
> > []
> > > tell us ! which one did you use ?
> >
> > Well, which one would you have?
>
> I asked you first....
I was trying to answer! :)
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> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> wrote:
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
> > > wrote:
> > > > Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If you are smart, you will learn what
> > > > > that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
> > > >
> > > > Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> > > > triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> > > > can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> > > > to make sure I got it correct!
> > []
> > > tell us ! which one did you use ?
> >
> > Well, which one would you have?
>
> I asked you first....
I was trying to answer! :)
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Jul 18th 2005, 6:45 am
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:14:09 +0000 (UTC), BB
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:53:35 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>> Following up to Mxsmanic
>>>The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet."
>> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
>> see why toilet is more accurate.
>It depends where you are, how the word "toilet" is used. In the US, the
>word toilet is generally used in reference to the fixture for defication
>and urination. You should expect to get some pretty odd looks if you say
>you're going to go wash your hands in the toilet.
>The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet", ONLY if
>you're in one of those places that use "toilet" to refer to a room, not
>just a fixture. Otherwise the most correct and specific term for the room
>itself is whatever is used locally - toilet, WC, restroom, baños, etc.
The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism, and the fact that
Americans have use the word mostly for the porcelain throne in
the bathroom (except when they douse on some toilet water)
doesn't change that.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:53:35 +0100, The Reids wrote:
>> Following up to Mxsmanic
>>>The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet."
>> lavatory and toilet are both words for places to wash, so I don't
>> see why toilet is more accurate.
>It depends where you are, how the word "toilet" is used. In the US, the
>word toilet is generally used in reference to the fixture for defication
>and urination. You should expect to get some pretty odd looks if you say
>you're going to go wash your hands in the toilet.
>The most correct and specific term for a toilet is "toilet", ONLY if
>you're in one of those places that use "toilet" to refer to a room, not
>just a fixture. Otherwise the most correct and specific term for the room
>itself is whatever is used locally - toilet, WC, restroom, baños, etc.
The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism, and the fact that
Americans have use the word mostly for the porcelain throne in
the bathroom (except when they douse on some toilet water)
doesn't change that.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Jul 18th 2005, 8:33 am
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Hatunen writes:
> The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism ...
For what word is it being substituted as a euphemism?
> The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism ...
For what word is it being substituted as a euphemism?
Jul 18th 2005, 9:01 am
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hatunen writes:
>> The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism ...
> For what word is it being substituted as a euphemism?
Netty.
JohnT
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> Hatunen writes:
>> The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism ...
> For what word is it being substituted as a euphemism?
Netty.
JohnT
Jul 18th 2005, 9:13 am
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Re: Three biggest surprises in Europe
chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich
tesco wrote:
> Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>If you are smart, you will learn what
>>that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
>
>
> Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> to make sure I got it correct!
Especially since a triangle resting on its base might be
iterpreted as representing a skirt, therefore the ladies' room!
>
tesco wrote:
> Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>If you are smart, you will learn what
>>that is and use the local parlance when you really need to go.
>
>
> Worth learning the gender signs in some countries too. I encountered a
> triangle for male and a circle for female in some Polish toilets. I
> can't say it was immediately obvious- I cracked open the door carefully
> to make sure I got it correct!
Especially since a triangle resting on its base might be
iterpreted as representing a skirt, therefore the ladies' room!
>
Jul 18th 2005, 9:33 am
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:45:56 -0700, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism,
I think the point is that "toilet" _was_ a euphemism, the meaning has
now changed and it no longer is.
Jim.
>The point is that "toilet" is a euphemism,
I think the point is that "toilet" _was_ a euphemism, the meaning has
now changed and it no longer is.
Jim.
