Teenagers in Rome
Sep 23rd 2004, 1:36 pm
#106
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
Are there soccer games in January? This he would like. He also likes Rugby.
Can tickets be purchased online?
"Luca Logi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Q <[email protected]> wrote:
> > He says one old building/ruin is one too many. History
> > as such is a no go area.
> I probably do not understand teenagers' psichology, but I think that
> Rome has some exceptional buildings, so breathtaking that I do not
> consider them as historic memories, but simply things to be seen. Take
> St. Peters', the largest church in the world - and still not as
> oppressive as it could be, especially on a sunny day. Take Piazza di
> Spagna: this is scenography made real in stone.
> However, if the boy doesn't appreciate history and architecture, I hope
> he will at least appreciate Italian food. If even his taste is spoiled,
> you may consider a soccer match (Rome has two teams, that alternate each
> Sunday in stadio olimpico). Again, I am not into sports, but I
> understand that soccer is lived in a different way in Italy and in
> Britain, and he may find the thing interesting.
> Above all, if you find being the only two foreigners in a sold out Lazio
> curve, the thing may get really interesting :-)
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Can tickets be purchased online?
"Luca Logi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Q <[email protected]> wrote:
> > He says one old building/ruin is one too many. History
> > as such is a no go area.
> I probably do not understand teenagers' psichology, but I think that
> Rome has some exceptional buildings, so breathtaking that I do not
> consider them as historic memories, but simply things to be seen. Take
> St. Peters', the largest church in the world - and still not as
> oppressive as it could be, especially on a sunny day. Take Piazza di
> Spagna: this is scenography made real in stone.
> However, if the boy doesn't appreciate history and architecture, I hope
> he will at least appreciate Italian food. If even his taste is spoiled,
> you may consider a soccer match (Rome has two teams, that alternate each
> Sunday in stadio olimpico). Again, I am not into sports, but I
> understand that soccer is lived in a different way in Italy and in
> Britain, and he may find the thing interesting.
> Above all, if you find being the only two foreigners in a sold out Lazio
> curve, the thing may get really interesting :-)
> --
> Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
> Home page: http://www.angelfire.com/ar/archivarius
> (musicologia pratica)
Sep 23rd 2004, 1:41 pm
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
they do for fun?
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> "Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Unfortunately his history teacher is a lot to blame for his lack of
interest
> > in history.
> >
> > To answer other questions, he is capable of reading but getting this to
> > extend past a skateboarding/snowboarding/soccer/baseball magazine is a
big
> > ask.
> >
> > As I previously said, I dont really need (or want) parenting or
> > psychological advice. There is no value at all in assuming my
motivations or
> > criticising them. I will simply skip over these contributions so you may
as
> > well keep them to yourselves. It is not simpy a matter of taking a 14
year
> > old on a 3-week ski trip of his choice then forcing him to suffer
through a
> > week in Rome. There are legitimate reasons for what is happening.
> >
> > Having said that, I am still interested in helpful hints on how to deal
with
> > things when we are there.
> Well, to some extent, you've come to the wrong place. This is a forum
> for discussing traveling for people who actually like traveling. You
> have on your hands someone who doesn't want to do apparently any of
> the many and varied things that the folks here do like to do.
> That said, this is not exactly a new topic around here. Past
> suggestions have centered a bit upon empowering the kid to entertain
> himself to a great degree, the specifics of which are going to be
> more known to you than to us. Give him some choice in what is
> visited each day. This of course may have to include fairly dull
> places like water parks, etc.
> A friend of mine is a teacher and takes kids on trips during the
> summer. His usual plan is a balance of organized and unorganized
> activity. Even just "hanging out" at a large park can help. But the
> kids are with other kids and they have some interest in history, which
> is why they signed up for the trip to begin with.
> The "Ben Hur" movies before the trip might help a bit too. Oh, by
> the way, in Italy they have this stuff called "gelatto".....
they do for fun?
"me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Unfortunately his history teacher is a lot to blame for his lack of
interest
> > in history.
> >
> > To answer other questions, he is capable of reading but getting this to
> > extend past a skateboarding/snowboarding/soccer/baseball magazine is a
big
> > ask.
> >
> > As I previously said, I dont really need (or want) parenting or
> > psychological advice. There is no value at all in assuming my
motivations or
> > criticising them. I will simply skip over these contributions so you may
as
> > well keep them to yourselves. It is not simpy a matter of taking a 14
year
> > old on a 3-week ski trip of his choice then forcing him to suffer
through a
> > week in Rome. There are legitimate reasons for what is happening.
> >
> > Having said that, I am still interested in helpful hints on how to deal
with
> > things when we are there.
> Well, to some extent, you've come to the wrong place. This is a forum
> for discussing traveling for people who actually like traveling. You
> have on your hands someone who doesn't want to do apparently any of
> the many and varied things that the folks here do like to do.
> That said, this is not exactly a new topic around here. Past
> suggestions have centered a bit upon empowering the kid to entertain
> himself to a great degree, the specifics of which are going to be
> more known to you than to us. Give him some choice in what is
> visited each day. This of course may have to include fairly dull
> places like water parks, etc.
> A friend of mine is a teacher and takes kids on trips during the
> summer. His usual plan is a balance of organized and unorganized
> activity. Even just "hanging out" at a large park can help. But the
> kids are with other kids and they have some interest in history, which
> is why they signed up for the trip to begin with.
> The "Ben Hur" movies before the trip might help a bit too. Oh, by
> the way, in Italy they have this stuff called "gelatto".....
Sep 23rd 2004, 3:37 pm
#108
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
Q writes:
> There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
> they do for fun?
They visit the U.S.
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> There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
> they do for fun?
They visit the U.S.
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Sep 23rd 2004, 5:49 pm
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Q <[email protected]> wrote:
> Are there soccer games in January? This he would like. He also likes Rugby.
> Can tickets be purchased online?
For the calendary of serie A matches:
http://www.lega-calcio.it/ita/atim_calendario.shtml
As Rome has two teams (Roma and Lazio), so there is a match at stadio
olimpico every Sunday. On Jan. 6th there is the so called "derby", that
is Roma-Lazio (very high temperature expected).
I wouldn't consider international matches. As one of Roma fans just hit
a referee with a coin, the next international matches will be played
without public.
I understand that stadio olimpico is not exactly the quietest place in
the world, but if you are looking for emotions for your child, probably
you should get plenty of them. Just avoid discussions and pay attention
to the colours of your dress (Rome: yellow and red; Lazio: white and
light blue).
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> Are there soccer games in January? This he would like. He also likes Rugby.
> Can tickets be purchased online?
For the calendary of serie A matches:
http://www.lega-calcio.it/ita/atim_calendario.shtml
As Rome has two teams (Roma and Lazio), so there is a match at stadio
olimpico every Sunday. On Jan. 6th there is the so called "derby", that
is Roma-Lazio (very high temperature expected).
I wouldn't consider international matches. As one of Roma fans just hit
a referee with a coin, the next international matches will be played
without public.
I understand that stadio olimpico is not exactly the quietest place in
the world, but if you are looking for emotions for your child, probably
you should get plenty of them. Just avoid discussions and pay attention
to the colours of your dress (Rome: yellow and red; Lazio: white and
light blue).
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Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: [email protected]
Sep 23rd 2004, 10:45 pm
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:36:24 +1000, "Q" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Are there soccer games in January? This he would like. He also likes Rugby.
>Can tickets be purchased online?
The Italian national and visiting teams sometimes train at the
facilities of the Hotel Villa Borghesiana
You can watch them free
http://www.venere.com/hotels/pgweb.p...tf=history.php
>Are there soccer games in January? This he would like. He also likes Rugby.
>Can tickets be purchased online?
The Italian national and visiting teams sometimes train at the
facilities of the Hotel Villa Borghesiana
You can watch them free
http://www.venere.com/hotels/pgweb.p...tf=history.php
Sep 24th 2004, 12:50 am
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On 23 Sep 2004 23:59:42 +0200, Emilia <emilia@(spam-so-)easy.com>
wrote:
>B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected] :
>>
>> I have never encountered any rude people in Rome. I have actually met
>> many very kind people.
>I haven't either. People in Rome have been nothing but pleasant to me.
>A bit of the north/south divide showing?! ;o)
Once when it started to rain while I was inside a shop in Rome, the
shopkeeper offered me her umbrella. I could mention many other
instances.
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wrote:
>B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected] :
>>
>> I have never encountered any rude people in Rome. I have actually met
>> many very kind people.
>I haven't either. People in Rome have been nothing but pleasant to me.
>A bit of the north/south divide showing?! ;o)
Once when it started to rain while I was inside a shop in Rome, the
shopkeeper offered me her umbrella. I could mention many other
instances.
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Sep 24th 2004, 8:47 am
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"Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
> they do for fun?
[snip]
Near as I can tell either hang around and look bored or make one heck of
alot of cell phone calls.
> There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
> they do for fun?
[snip]
Near as I can tell either hang around and look bored or make one heck of
alot of cell phone calls.
Sep 24th 2004, 9:35 am
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me wrote:
> "Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
>>they do for fun?
>
> [snip]
>
> Near as I can tell either hang around and look bored or make one heck of
> alot of cell phone calls.
at 2 am under your apartment window -- they also hoot drunkenly and like
to ride vespas up and down the streets while others sleep or try to
> "Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
>>they do for fun?
>
> [snip]
>
> Near as I can tell either hang around and look bored or make one heck of
> alot of cell phone calls.
at 2 am under your apartment window -- they also hoot drunkenly and like
to ride vespas up and down the streets while others sleep or try to
Sep 24th 2004, 10:13 pm
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On 24 Sep 2004 13:47:52 -0700, [email protected] (me) wrote:
>"Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
>> they do for fun?
I don't live in Rome, but I can tell you what 14-year-old boys do in
my Italian town. They congregate at a parking lot near the middle
school and blast their stereos for a while. Then they get on their
motor scooters and zoom around the town, trying to knock over old
ladies and wake everyone who works the night shift. For some odd
reason, they think this impresses 14-year-old girls.
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>"Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> There must be teenagers in Rome who are not interested in the past. What do
>> they do for fun?
I don't live in Rome, but I can tell you what 14-year-old boys do in
my Italian town. They congregate at a parking lot near the middle
school and blast their stereos for a while. Then they get on their
motor scooters and zoom around the town, trying to knock over old
ladies and wake everyone who works the night shift. For some odd
reason, they think this impresses 14-year-old girls.
-----------
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
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Sep 24th 2004, 10:20 pm
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B Vaughan writes:
> I don't live in Rome, but I can tell you what 14-year-old boys do in
> my Italian town. They congregate at a parking lot near the middle
> school and blast their stereos for a while. Then they get on their
> motor scooters and zoom around the town, trying to knock over old
> ladies and wake everyone who works the night shift. For some odd
> reason, they think this impresses 14-year-old girls.
It depends on how soundly the girls sleep, I suppose.
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> I don't live in Rome, but I can tell you what 14-year-old boys do in
> my Italian town. They congregate at a parking lot near the middle
> school and blast their stereos for a while. Then they get on their
> motor scooters and zoom around the town, trying to knock over old
> ladies and wake everyone who works the night shift. For some odd
> reason, they think this impresses 14-year-old girls.
It depends on how soundly the girls sleep, I suppose.
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Sep 25th 2004, 7:18 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:28:05 GMT, "minelli374" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:[email protected].. .
>> Do you watch a lot of TV?
>> I've not been to Rome, but I see seven- and eight-year-olds riding the
>> Métro alone in Paris and they seem to do just fine.
>I'm not crazy but I've been to Rome. I think this will explain you all.
>;)
>paola
I've been to Rome too, several times. I love the city. I wouldn't
carry thousands of euros on me (not in any big city), but apart from
that, in daytime a normal 14 yo will do perfectly well. Hell, *I* did
perfectly well in Paris alone in daytime some (OK, many, ahem) years
ago, so....
Nathalie in Switzerland
wrote:
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:[email protected].. .
>> Do you watch a lot of TV?
>> I've not been to Rome, but I see seven- and eight-year-olds riding the
>> Métro alone in Paris and they seem to do just fine.
>I'm not crazy but I've been to Rome. I think this will explain you all.
>;)
>paola
I've been to Rome too, several times. I love the city. I wouldn't
carry thousands of euros on me (not in any big city), but apart from
that, in daytime a normal 14 yo will do perfectly well. Hell, *I* did
perfectly well in Paris alone in daytime some (OK, many, ahem) years
ago, so....
Nathalie in Switzerland
Sep 26th 2004, 9:20 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
I am not a teenager.....but they might like to see Time Elevator Rome. It is
near Piazza Venizia
ciao?
near Piazza Venizia
ciao?
Oct 20th 2004, 9:38 am
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I don't know if any of this has been suggested. There were too many posts
to read. Anyway, I've taken a teenage girl on several European trips. In
general, what worked for us was locating an internet cafe within walking
distance of the hotel as soon as possible and letting her go there herself
at least once a day. She liked the independence. Also,I've always used the
Rick Steve's guides. If and when she was interested in reading anything
about a sight, it seemed to have just the right amount or information
written in a light manner. In Rome, I'd try climbing up the dome of St.
Peter's. Also, there are lots of private or group walking tours available,
many of which are relatively short, 2 hrs., and are meant to be
entertaining. Those worked pretty well because even if they weren't
riveting, it gave our daughter someone else to interact with. One on the
colleseum might interest your son, at least a little. I would not,
however, just hook up with the guides who hang around there. They aren't
as good. Does he like to read at all? The teens I know all liked DaVinci
Code and I have seen some tours organized it. Was the Vespa tour mentioned
in this series of links? That sounded good to me. Could you possibly get
outside Rome where the traffic is less and rent a motorbike? There are
also bike tours outside the city if it is not too cold. I also think
letting him stay somewhere you feel safe about near the spanish steps or
piazza navona is a great idea - they are teaming with young people so
he'll surely find some other kids to talk to. Also, there is an English
language cinema, I think in Trastevere, for a break - at least you'll be
traveling around and seeing something of Rome and another culture on your
way there and back. Or take a day trip somewhere on the train. You can get
to Florence easily, climb the bell tower there, and eat lunch at a
restaurant on the Ponte Rialto. Ride second class and your son will
probably meet some young people. Our daughter always did.Does he have a
girl friend? He could buy her something nice in Florence. Finally, on one
trip we had our teenage nephew. The highlight for him, I later learned,
was that we let him have a small drink at several dinners. Our daughter
wasn't equally interested in everything we did, but like you, we tried to
find some things that would appeal to her. She is now 19, travels to
Europe on her own and loves it. She still doesn't want to spend hours in
art museums, but then neither do I. Everyone is different. I think the
effort we put into making Europe interesting for her was worth it.
to read. Anyway, I've taken a teenage girl on several European trips. In
general, what worked for us was locating an internet cafe within walking
distance of the hotel as soon as possible and letting her go there herself
at least once a day. She liked the independence. Also,I've always used the
Rick Steve's guides. If and when she was interested in reading anything
about a sight, it seemed to have just the right amount or information
written in a light manner. In Rome, I'd try climbing up the dome of St.
Peter's. Also, there are lots of private or group walking tours available,
many of which are relatively short, 2 hrs., and are meant to be
entertaining. Those worked pretty well because even if they weren't
riveting, it gave our daughter someone else to interact with. One on the
colleseum might interest your son, at least a little. I would not,
however, just hook up with the guides who hang around there. They aren't
as good. Does he like to read at all? The teens I know all liked DaVinci
Code and I have seen some tours organized it. Was the Vespa tour mentioned
in this series of links? That sounded good to me. Could you possibly get
outside Rome where the traffic is less and rent a motorbike? There are
also bike tours outside the city if it is not too cold. I also think
letting him stay somewhere you feel safe about near the spanish steps or
piazza navona is a great idea - they are teaming with young people so
he'll surely find some other kids to talk to. Also, there is an English
language cinema, I think in Trastevere, for a break - at least you'll be
traveling around and seeing something of Rome and another culture on your
way there and back. Or take a day trip somewhere on the train. You can get
to Florence easily, climb the bell tower there, and eat lunch at a
restaurant on the Ponte Rialto. Ride second class and your son will
probably meet some young people. Our daughter always did.Does he have a
girl friend? He could buy her something nice in Florence. Finally, on one
trip we had our teenage nephew. The highlight for him, I later learned,
was that we let him have a small drink at several dinners. Our daughter
wasn't equally interested in everything we did, but like you, we tried to
find some things that would appeal to her. She is now 19, travels to
Europe on her own and loves it. She still doesn't want to spend hours in
art museums, but then neither do I. Everyone is different. I think the
effort we put into making Europe interesting for her was worth it.
Oct 21st 2004, 12:33 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:38:35 -0400, "sandyed1225" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> ... I also think
>letting him stay somewhere you feel safe about near the spanish steps or
>piazza navona is a great idea - they are teaming with young people so
>he'll surely find some other kids to talk to.
Those are two places where I wouldn't leave a young teenager alone.
They're also teaming with con artists, pickpockets, and other dodgy
sorts of people.
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wrote:
> ... I also think
>letting him stay somewhere you feel safe about near the spanish steps or
>piazza navona is a great idea - they are teaming with young people so
>he'll surely find some other kids to talk to.
Those are two places where I wouldn't leave a young teenager alone.
They're also teaming with con artists, pickpockets, and other dodgy
sorts of people.
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Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Oct 21st 2004, 12:51 am
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:33:02 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>Barbara Vaughan
>My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
>I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Barbara your sig should look like this
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>Barbara Vaughan
>My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
>I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Barbara your sig should look like this
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Barbara Vaughan
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