Teenagers in Rome
Sep 21st 2004, 12:44 am
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Teenagers in Rome
I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
Thank you
Q
museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
Thank you
Q
Sep 21st 2004, 12:49 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
When I was in Rome a few months ago, the only museum I entered was the
Vatican Museum and Sistine Chapel. There are lots of things to see outside -
Colosseum, Forum, Piazza Novona, Spanish Steps, Borghese Park, The Vatian,
etc. I found the Frommer's guidebook very helpful.
"Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what
might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
> Thank you
> Q
Vatican Museum and Sistine Chapel. There are lots of things to see outside -
Colosseum, Forum, Piazza Novona, Spanish Steps, Borghese Park, The Vatian,
etc. I found the Frommer's guidebook very helpful.
"Q" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what
might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
> Thank you
> Q
Sep 21st 2004, 12:56 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
Q <[email protected]> wrote:
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
With a good guide the Forum and Coliseum is interesting. The Catacombs.
Ostia Antica (ancient ruins like Pompeii) Piazza Navona and Largo ARgentia
with all the cats.
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> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
With a good guide the Forum and Coliseum is interesting. The Catacombs.
Ostia Antica (ancient ruins like Pompeii) Piazza Navona and Largo ARgentia
with all the cats.
--
Julie
**********
Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
Sep 21st 2004, 1:00 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:56:11 +0000 (UTC), Juliana L Holm
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Q <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
>> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>With a good guide the Forum and Coliseum is interesting. The Catacombs.
>Ostia Antica (ancient ruins like Pompeii) Piazza Navona and Largo ARgentia
>with all the cats.
A day out in and around Tivoli - Villa Adriana & Villa D'Este.
A visit to Anzio. Show him how many Yanks and Brit.s died liberating
Rome.
A smack on the head using Frommer can be used to control a 14 year
old. :-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Q <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
>> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>With a good guide the Forum and Coliseum is interesting. The Catacombs.
>Ostia Antica (ancient ruins like Pompeii) Piazza Navona and Largo ARgentia
>with all the cats.
A day out in and around Tivoli - Villa Adriana & Villa D'Este.
A visit to Anzio. Show him how many Yanks and Brit.s died liberating
Rome.
A smack on the head using Frommer can be used to control a 14 year
old. :-)
Sep 21st 2004, 2:25 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
"Q" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what
might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
I went there in 1997 when I was the same age as your son and I found it
sooooo boring, noisy and chaotic.
January is not the best time to visit Rome but it is less cold than in
northern Italy. I suggest you to find a guide able to interest your son or
to "study" Rome's history yourself and then explain it to him while visiting
the city.
In Italy we do not have very interactive museums as I saw in Sweden so
they're all boring if you do not have interest in arts and history. The best
you can do is tryin' to catch your son's attention on them, so he will be
anxious to visit the capital of the ancient world.
paola
news:[email protected]...
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what
might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
I went there in 1997 when I was the same age as your son and I found it
sooooo boring, noisy and chaotic.
January is not the best time to visit Rome but it is less cold than in
northern Italy. I suggest you to find a guide able to interest your son or
to "study" Rome's history yourself and then explain it to him while visiting
the city.
In Italy we do not have very interactive museums as I saw in Sweden so
they're all boring if you do not have interest in arts and history. The best
you can do is tryin' to catch your son's attention on them, so he will be
anxious to visit the capital of the ancient world.
paola
Sep 21st 2004, 2:31 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
On 21/9/04 13:44, in article [email protected], "Q" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>
> Thank you
>
Anyone going to Rome should be sure to visit The Magic Keyhole. I'm not
going to divulge the secret but it's worth it - it's an astonishment, IMO.
And don't worry, it's a very pleasant surprise!
Drive up to the Aventine, to Piazza dei Cavalieri di Malta.
Ask the Carabinieri on duty which is the Priory of the Knights of Malta,
though it's hard to miss the wooden door which is very high and massive.
Spy through the keyhole and ecco!
I think even a jaded 14 yo will be surprised. ;-)
If you can get him to do so, some light reading about Rome's history and
sights might stimulate an interest in actually seeing it. But I do
sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
--
Sacha
wrote:
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>
> Thank you
>
Anyone going to Rome should be sure to visit The Magic Keyhole. I'm not
going to divulge the secret but it's worth it - it's an astonishment, IMO.
And don't worry, it's a very pleasant surprise!
Drive up to the Aventine, to Piazza dei Cavalieri di Malta.
Ask the Carabinieri on duty which is the Priory of the Knights of Malta,
though it's hard to miss the wooden door which is very high and massive.
Spy through the keyhole and ecco!
I think even a jaded 14 yo will be surprised. ;-)
If you can get him to do so, some light reading about Rome's history and
sights might stimulate an interest in actually seeing it. But I do
sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
--
Sacha
Sep 21st 2004, 3:19 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
Q wrote:
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>
> Thank you
>
> Q
>
>
you have this backwards -- 14 being the nadir of the human life cycle
it is imperative that you get out of the business of trying to please
him and put the responsibility where it belongs
give him an insight guide or other user friendly guide to Rome and put
him in charge of planning part of the trip -- in my experience older
kids and teens who are in charge of making YOUR trip pleasant are much
more likely to go along with the things you want to do.
14 is an adult of sorts -- make him responsible for his own
entertainment -- have him choose books to read during down time, have
him plan a day or two etc etc -- everyone will be happier and you will
probably find some things you wouldn't have seen otherwise
some things my teen kids liked included that church with the tableaus
made of the skeletons of dead monks, the archeological zone under St.
Peters, Villa Adriana in Tivoli and to a lesser extend the nearby
gardens of the Villa d'Este, the Etruscan tombs north of the city and of
course small restaurants and gelato stands [in rome it pays to research
this -- there is a lot of terrible gelato as well as spectacularly good
gelato] they also liked the Piaza Navona at night
but ours were also brought up to enjoy museums -- the key thing is for
your son to find the things that HE enjoys --
if he can't dig into this with enthusiasm, he shouldn't be on the trip
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>
> Thank you
>
> Q
>
>
you have this backwards -- 14 being the nadir of the human life cycle
it is imperative that you get out of the business of trying to please
him and put the responsibility where it belongs
give him an insight guide or other user friendly guide to Rome and put
him in charge of planning part of the trip -- in my experience older
kids and teens who are in charge of making YOUR trip pleasant are much
more likely to go along with the things you want to do.
14 is an adult of sorts -- make him responsible for his own
entertainment -- have him choose books to read during down time, have
him plan a day or two etc etc -- everyone will be happier and you will
probably find some things you wouldn't have seen otherwise
some things my teen kids liked included that church with the tableaus
made of the skeletons of dead monks, the archeological zone under St.
Peters, Villa Adriana in Tivoli and to a lesser extend the nearby
gardens of the Villa d'Este, the Etruscan tombs north of the city and of
course small restaurants and gelato stands [in rome it pays to research
this -- there is a lot of terrible gelato as well as spectacularly good
gelato] they also liked the Piaza Navona at night
but ours were also brought up to enjoy museums -- the key thing is for
your son to find the things that HE enjoys --
if he can't dig into this with enthusiasm, he shouldn't be on the trip
Sep 21st 2004, 3:21 am
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Sacha wrote:
> On 21/9/04 13:44, in article [email protected], "Q" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>>museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
>>appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>>Thank you
>
> Anyone going to Rome should be sure to visit The Magic Keyhole. I'm not
> going to divulge the secret but it's worth it - it's an astonishment, IMO.
> And don't worry, it's a very pleasant surprise!
> Drive up to the Aventine, to Piazza dei Cavalieri di Malta.
> Ask the Carabinieri on duty which is the Priory of the Knights of Malta,
> though it's hard to miss the wooden door which is very high and massive.
>
> Spy through the keyhole and ecco!
> I think even a jaded 14 yo will be surprised. ;-)
> If you can get him to do so, some light reading about Rome's history and
> sights might stimulate an interest in actually seeing it. But I do
> sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
> just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
and why would one organize an expensive and wonderful trip for such a
child? one of my children traveled with me in Europe at age 12 and age
14 -- another got his first trip at age 24. if they are not interested
-- why drag them along and spoil your own time? in another post I
suggested way to engage their interest -- nothing quite as fun as
traveling with a kid who loves to travel -- but if they are going to
pout [and you know who they are by how they travel at home] then why
subject yourself to it?
> On 21/9/04 13:44, in article [email protected], "Q" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>>museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
>>appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>>Thank you
>
> Anyone going to Rome should be sure to visit The Magic Keyhole. I'm not
> going to divulge the secret but it's worth it - it's an astonishment, IMO.
> And don't worry, it's a very pleasant surprise!
> Drive up to the Aventine, to Piazza dei Cavalieri di Malta.
> Ask the Carabinieri on duty which is the Priory of the Knights of Malta,
> though it's hard to miss the wooden door which is very high and massive.
>
> Spy through the keyhole and ecco!
> I think even a jaded 14 yo will be surprised. ;-)
> If you can get him to do so, some light reading about Rome's history and
> sights might stimulate an interest in actually seeing it. But I do
> sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
> just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
and why would one organize an expensive and wonderful trip for such a
child? one of my children traveled with me in Europe at age 12 and age
14 -- another got his first trip at age 24. if they are not interested
-- why drag them along and spoil your own time? in another post I
suggested way to engage their interest -- nothing quite as fun as
traveling with a kid who loves to travel -- but if they are going to
pout [and you know who they are by how they travel at home] then why
subject yourself to it?
Sep 21st 2004, 4:13 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:31:08 +0100, Sacha
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 21/9/04 13:44, in article [email protected], "Q" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
>> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>Anyone going to Rome should be sure to visit The Magic Keyhole. I'm not
>going to divulge the secret but it's worth it - it's an astonishment, IMO.
>And don't worry, it's a very pleasant surprise!
>Drive up to the Aventine, to Piazza dei Cavalieri di Malta.
>Ask the Carabinieri on duty which is the Priory of the Knights of Malta,
>though it's hard to miss the wooden door which is very high and massive.
>Spy through the keyhole and ecco!
Something for urglers to emulate? ;-)
>I think even a jaded 14 yo will be surprised. ;-)
>If you can get him to do so, some light reading about Rome's history and
>sights might stimulate an interest in actually seeing it. But I do
>sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
>just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
Our son was similar at that age. We used to drag him around, after a
while he discovered the joys of filling in the visitors book;
churches, cathedrals, palaces & stately homes all over Europe have his
name and our address clearly written next to his comment "BORING" and
later
" 'KIN BORING" in their visitors book.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 21/9/04 13:44, in article [email protected], "Q" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
>> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>Anyone going to Rome should be sure to visit The Magic Keyhole. I'm not
>going to divulge the secret but it's worth it - it's an astonishment, IMO.
>And don't worry, it's a very pleasant surprise!
>Drive up to the Aventine, to Piazza dei Cavalieri di Malta.
>Ask the Carabinieri on duty which is the Priory of the Knights of Malta,
>though it's hard to miss the wooden door which is very high and massive.
>Spy through the keyhole and ecco!
Something for urglers to emulate? ;-)
>I think even a jaded 14 yo will be surprised. ;-)
>If you can get him to do so, some light reading about Rome's history and
>sights might stimulate an interest in actually seeing it. But I do
>sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
>just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
Our son was similar at that age. We used to drag him around, after a
while he discovered the joys of filling in the visitors book;
churches, cathedrals, palaces & stately homes all over Europe have his
name and our address clearly written next to his comment "BORING" and
later
" 'KIN BORING" in their visitors book.
Sep 21st 2004, 4:13 am
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Re: Teenagers in Rome
> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what
might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
A 14 year old boy is only going to be interested in death and other gruesome
things.
Get him to do some reading up on selected sites in Rome and I can assure you
he will really want to visit them.
> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what
might
> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
A 14 year old boy is only going to be interested in death and other gruesome
things.
Get him to do some reading up on selected sites in Rome and I can assure you
he will really want to visit them.
Sep 21st 2004, 4:26 am
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[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:31:08 +0100, Sacha
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>On 21/9/04 13:44, in article [email protected], "Q" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>>I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>>>museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
>>>appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>>>Thank you
>>Anyone going to Rome should be sure to visit The Magic Keyhole. I'm not
>>going to divulge the secret but it's worth it - it's an astonishment, IMO.
>>And don't worry, it's a very pleasant surprise!
>>Drive up to the Aventine, to Piazza dei Cavalieri di Malta.
>>Ask the Carabinieri on duty which is the Priory of the Knights of Malta,
>>though it's hard to miss the wooden door which is very high and massive.
>>Spy through the keyhole and ecco!
>
>
> Something for urglers to emulate? ;-)
>
>
>>I think even a jaded 14 yo will be surprised. ;-)
>>If you can get him to do so, some light reading about Rome's history and
>>sights might stimulate an interest in actually seeing it. But I do
>>sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
>>just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
>
>
> Our son was similar at that age. We used to drag him around, after a
> while he discovered the joys of filling in the visitors book;
> churches, cathedrals, palaces & stately homes all over Europe have his
> name and our address clearly written next to his comment "BORING" and
> later
> " 'KIN BORING" in their visitors book.
and yet you seem strangely proud to have inflicted this boorish child on
the world
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:31:08 +0100, Sacha
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>On 21/9/04 13:44, in article [email protected], "Q" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>>I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>>>museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what might
>>>appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>>>Thank you
>>Anyone going to Rome should be sure to visit The Magic Keyhole. I'm not
>>going to divulge the secret but it's worth it - it's an astonishment, IMO.
>>And don't worry, it's a very pleasant surprise!
>>Drive up to the Aventine, to Piazza dei Cavalieri di Malta.
>>Ask the Carabinieri on duty which is the Priory of the Knights of Malta,
>>though it's hard to miss the wooden door which is very high and massive.
>>Spy through the keyhole and ecco!
>
>
> Something for urglers to emulate? ;-)
>
>
>>I think even a jaded 14 yo will be surprised. ;-)
>>If you can get him to do so, some light reading about Rome's history and
>>sights might stimulate an interest in actually seeing it. But I do
>>sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
>>just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
>
>
> Our son was similar at that age. We used to drag him around, after a
> while he discovered the joys of filling in the visitors book;
> churches, cathedrals, palaces & stately homes all over Europe have his
> name and our address clearly written next to his comment "BORING" and
> later
> " 'KIN BORING" in their visitors book.
and yet you seem strangely proud to have inflicted this boorish child on
the world
Sep 21st 2004, 4:32 am
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:13:29 +0100, "Thomas"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what
>might
>> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>A 14 year old boy is only going to be interested in death and other gruesome
>things.
>Get him to do some reading up on selected sites in Rome and I can assure you
>he will really want to visit them.
The GRA in rush hour? :-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I will be travelling to Rome in January with a 14 year old son. He hates
>> museums, art galleries and the like. Can anyone suggest ideas of what
>might
>> appeal to him when we get there so we both have a reasonable time?
>A 14 year old boy is only going to be interested in death and other gruesome
>things.
>Get him to do some reading up on selected sites in Rome and I can assure you
>he will really want to visit them.
The GRA in rush hour? :-)
Sep 21st 2004, 4:34 am
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:26:39 -0500, jenn <[email protected]> wrote:
>and yet you seem strangely proud to have inflicted this boorish child on
>the world
Here we go again with you making strangely false assumptions.
He grew out of it. I was not proud of him at the time.
>and yet you seem strangely proud to have inflicted this boorish child on
>the world
Here we go again with you making strangely false assumptions.
He grew out of it. I was not proud of him at the time.
Sep 21st 2004, 4:52 am
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On 21/9/04 16:21, in article [email protected], "jenn"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Sacha wrote:
<snip>
>> But I do
>> sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
>> just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
>
> and why would one organize an expensive and wonderful trip for such a
> child? one of my children traveled with me in Europe at age 12 and age
> 14 -- another got his first trip at age 24. if they are not interested
> -- why drag them along and spoil your own time? in another post I
> suggested way to engage their interest -- nothing quite as fun as
> traveling with a kid who loves to travel -- but if they are going to
> pout [and you know who they are by how they travel at home] then why
> subject yourself to it?
Well, for a start I live in Britain, anyway, so the expense factor is
probably not the same as for you - France is a very close neighbour.
Jersey is about 2 hours from France by ferry and we were driving back to
Jersey from skiing in Val Thorens and did a detour for our benefit before
taking the car to St Malo and the ferry to Jersey.
(In Jersey, 'travelling' usually involves 30 minutes in a car at most as the
island is only 45 sq. miles)
People do things for all sorts of reasons, don't they - perhaps there is
nobody with whom to leave the child/ren or the child is not well and needs
parental help, supervision, care at all times, etc?
And in our case we'd ALL enjoyed the skiing and son was just being a normal
teenager - he also refused to visit Ephesus when we were in Turkey but that
was on a sailing trip along that coastline, the rest of which he'd
absolutely loved! We weren't doing a sightseeing tour as such on either
occasion because we tend not to do that kind of holiday.
--
Sacha
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Sacha wrote:
<snip>
>> But I do
>> sympathise, my son when 13 refused point blank to get out of the car and
>> just *look* at the Eiffel Tower - the only effort asked of him!
>
> and why would one organize an expensive and wonderful trip for such a
> child? one of my children traveled with me in Europe at age 12 and age
> 14 -- another got his first trip at age 24. if they are not interested
> -- why drag them along and spoil your own time? in another post I
> suggested way to engage their interest -- nothing quite as fun as
> traveling with a kid who loves to travel -- but if they are going to
> pout [and you know who they are by how they travel at home] then why
> subject yourself to it?
Well, for a start I live in Britain, anyway, so the expense factor is
probably not the same as for you - France is a very close neighbour.
Jersey is about 2 hours from France by ferry and we were driving back to
Jersey from skiing in Val Thorens and did a detour for our benefit before
taking the car to St Malo and the ferry to Jersey.
(In Jersey, 'travelling' usually involves 30 minutes in a car at most as the
island is only 45 sq. miles)
People do things for all sorts of reasons, don't they - perhaps there is
nobody with whom to leave the child/ren or the child is not well and needs
parental help, supervision, care at all times, etc?
And in our case we'd ALL enjoyed the skiing and son was just being a normal
teenager - he also refused to visit Ephesus when we were in Turkey but that
was on a sailing trip along that coastline, the rest of which he'd
absolutely loved! We weren't doing a sightseeing tour as such on either
occasion because we tend not to do that kind of holiday.
--
Sacha
Sep 21st 2004, 6:26 am
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[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:26:39 -0500, jenn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>and yet you seem strangely proud to have inflicted this boorish child on
>>the world
>
>
> Here we go again with you making strangely false assumptions.
>
> He grew out of it. I was not proud of him at the time.
why did you take him on this trip dragging him through all this only to
have him cast his sullen demeanor on one and all?
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:26:39 -0500, jenn <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>and yet you seem strangely proud to have inflicted this boorish child on
>>the world
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> Here we go again with you making strangely false assumptions.
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> He grew out of it. I was not proud of him at the time.
why did you take him on this trip dragging him through all this only to
have him cast his sullen demeanor on one and all?
