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Old Oct 21st 2004, 12:11 pm
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 01:03:35 +0200, Magda wrote:

    > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:22:17 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ... Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ... > Ellie C writes:
    > ... >> Humidity changes everything. Edges become blurrier, aerial
    > ... >> perspetive has more effect the higher the humidity.
    > ... >
    > ... > Water vapor is invisible.
    > ...
    > ... What were those white puffy things I saw in the sky today?
    >
    > What are those that come from my kettle ??

Want a straight answer for a change? It's water. Droplets of liquid
water.

The man is right, steam/water vapor is invisible.

What you see is freshly formed condensate. In contrast, one of the things
that make superheated steam more dangerous than saturated steam is that
since it takes some cooling until it would condense, it's invisible.
 
Old Oct 21st 2004, 1:02 pm
  #92  
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:11:23 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, devil <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 01:03:35 +0200, Magda wrote:
...
... > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:22:17 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
... > ... > Ellie C writes:
... > ... >> Humidity changes everything. Edges become blurrier, aerial
... > ... >> perspetive has more effect the higher the humidity.
... > ... >
... > ... > Water vapor is invisible.
... > ...
... > ... What were those white puffy things I saw in the sky today?
... >
... > What are those that come from my kettle ??
...
... Want a straight answer for a change? It's water. Droplets of liquid
... water.
...
... The man is right, steam/water vapor is invisible.

Une fois n'est pas coutume...
 
Old Oct 21st 2004, 4:56 pm
  #93  
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Miguel Cruz writes:

    > What were those white puffy things I saw in the sky today?

Liquid water droplets.

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Old Oct 21st 2004, 4:57 pm
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Magda writes:

    > What are those that come from my kettle ??

Liquid water droplets.

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Old Oct 21st 2004, 4:58 pm
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devil writes:

    > What you see is freshly formed condensate. In contrast, one of the things
    > that make superheated steam more dangerous than saturated steam is that
    > since it takes some cooling until it would condense, it's invisible.

One of my relatives used to work around superheated steam and considered
it extremely dangerous, since it could be leaking from the system and
you wouldn't know it until you walked through the leak and had your
flesh burned away.

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Old Oct 21st 2004, 7:45 pm
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[email protected] wrote:
    > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:01:30 +0200, Ellie C <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>Here it rises over Rennes le Chateau.
    >
    >
    > Is that where you are? A nice place to live. Keep looking for the
    > treasure :-)
We don't live right in Rennes le Chateau; it's about 2 miles from here.
But if I walk out into the street at dawn and look to the left, I see
the sun rising over the hill where Rennes le Chateau is.

Haven't found any treasure yet. ;-)
 
Old Oct 21st 2004, 7:49 pm
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:

    > Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Ellie C writes:
    >>>>Humidity changes everything. Edges become blurrier, aerial
    >>>>perspetive has more effect the higher the humidity.
    >>>Water vapor is invisible.
    >>What were those white puffy things I saw in the sky today?
    >
    >
    > Mxsmanic is, in fact, correct.
    >
    > David
    >
If water vapor is invisible, how come we all get this mental picture of
what it looks like? Mist, fog, steam - all those things are invisible?
 
Old Oct 21st 2004, 7:53 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:

    > devil writes:
    >
    >
    >>What you see is freshly formed condensate. In contrast, one of the things
    >>that make superheated steam more dangerous than saturated steam is that
    >>since it takes some cooling until it would condense, it's invisible.
    >
    >
    > One of my relatives used to work around superheated steam and considered
    > it extremely dangerous, since it could be leaking from the system and
    > you wouldn't know it until you walked through the leak and had your
    > flesh burned away.
    >
You may call it "freshly formed condensate" but for most people, "water
vapor" refers to visible droplets of water in the air. And that's what
we were talking about - the humidity that changes how things look.
 
Old Oct 21st 2004, 7:56 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:

    > Ellie C writes:
    >
    >
    >>Maybe not if your taking photos, but it sure makes a difference
    >>when you're looking at the sunset.
    >
    >
    > What difference is that?
    >
    >
    >>Humidity changes everything. Edges become blurrier, aerial
    >>perspetive has more effect the higher the humidity.
    >
    >
    > Water vapor is invisible.
    >
THen I must be having hallucinations when the hills disappear because of
little droplets of water. I wonder why people buy fog lights. I wonder
what that stuff is that makes it hard to see through my windshield on
rainy days. Why do weather reports talk of visibility?

What are you drinking?
 
Old Oct 21st 2004, 7:57 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:

    > Ellie C writes:
    >
    >
    >>Actually, the fast moving sunsets in the tropics are a challenge in
    >>another way. I'm a painter and I particularly love the long shadows you
    >>get around dawn and sunset. You have to paint *really* fast to capture
    >>them in the tropics.
    >
    >
    > So how do painters manage to depict crashing surf?
    >
Memory. If you look at something long enough, often enough, you remember
how it moves, how it looks.

Or you take a photo. ;-)

But the paintings done from photos never turn out as well, IMHO.
 
Old Oct 21st 2004, 8:06 pm
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:22:17 -0500, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
wrote:

    >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Ellie C writes:
    >>> Humidity changes everything. Edges become blurrier, aerial
    >>> perspetive has more effect the higher the humidity.
    >> Water vapor is invisible.
    >What were those white puffy things I saw in the sky today?

clouds consisting of water droplets
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Old Oct 21st 2004, 8:06 pm
  #102  
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 01:03:35 +0200, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:22:17 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
    >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ... > Ellie C writes:
    > ... >> Humidity changes everything. Edges become blurrier, aerial
    > ... >> perspetive has more effect the higher the humidity.
    > ... >
    > ... > Water vapor is invisible.
    > ...
    > ... What were those white puffy things I saw in the sky today?
    >What are those that come from my kettle ??

water droplets.
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Old Oct 21st 2004, 8:09 pm
  #103  
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:45:13 +0200, Ellie C <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    >> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:01:30 +0200, Ellie C <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Here it rises over Rennes le Chateau.
    >>
    >>
    >> Is that where you are? A nice place to live. Keep looking for the
    >> treasure :-)
    >We don't live right in Rennes le Chateau; it's about 2 miles from here.
    >But if I walk out into the street at dawn and look to the left, I see
    >the sun rising over the hill where Rennes le Chateau is.
    >Haven't found any treasure yet. ;-)

The money is made by writing books about it :-((
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Old Oct 21st 2004, 8:47 pm
  #104  
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:49:59 +0200, Ellie C <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn wrote:
    >> Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>Ellie C writes:
    >>>>>Humidity changes everything. Edges become blurrier, aerial
    >>>>>perspetive has more effect the higher the humidity.
    >>>>Water vapor is invisible.
    >>>What were those white puffy things I saw in the sky today?
    >>
    >>
    >> Mxsmanic is, in fact, correct.
    >>
    >> David
    >>
    >If water vapor is invisible, how come we all get this mental picture of
    >what it looks like? Mist, fog, steam - all those things are invisible?

none of them are steam. Bad education?
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Old Oct 21st 2004, 8:47 pm
  #105  
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:53:38 +0200, Ellie C <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> devil writes:
    >>
    >>
    >>>What you see is freshly formed condensate. In contrast, one of the things
    >>>that make superheated steam more dangerous than saturated steam is that
    >>>since it takes some cooling until it would condense, it's invisible.
    >>
    >>
    >> One of my relatives used to work around superheated steam and considered
    >> it extremely dangerous, since it could be leaking from the system and
    >> you wouldn't know it until you walked through the leak and had your
    >> flesh burned away.
    >>
    >You may call it "freshly formed condensate" but for most people, "water
    >vapor" refers to visible droplets of water in the air. And that's what
    >we were talking about - the humidity that changes how things look.

Water vapour refers to the gaseous state of water.
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Martin
 


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