Sunsets in paris...
Oct 19th 2004, 9:38 am
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Re: Sunsets in paris...
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:41:01 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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>Hatunen writes:
>> Yes, I'm in Tucson (that's me being quoted there). The only
>> problem with spending a month in Tucson is he may never want to
>> leave.
>The advantage to spending a month in Tucson is that it can be done in a
>single afternoon.
On one of your guided tours or what?
wrote:
>Hatunen writes:
>> Yes, I'm in Tucson (that's me being quoted there). The only
>> problem with spending a month in Tucson is he may never want to
>> leave.
>The advantage to spending a month in Tucson is that it can be done in a
>single afternoon.
On one of your guided tours or what?
Oct 19th 2004, 9:39 am
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:16:22 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bollocks. You could come to Scotland where we have some crackers but us
>> Scots have enough humility to recognise that they happen elsewhere. The
>sun
>> here sets in the west like it does in most places.
>The sun never set on the British Empire because the British Empire is in
>the East and the sun sets in the West.
Yes, I was about to use that too :-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Bollocks. You could come to Scotland where we have some crackers but us
>> Scots have enough humility to recognise that they happen elsewhere. The
>sun
>> here sets in the west like it does in most places.
>The sun never set on the British Empire because the British Empire is in
>the East and the sun sets in the West.
Yes, I was about to use that too :-)
Oct 19th 2004, 9:41 am
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:20:42 +0200, Tim Challenger
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>> The sun never set on the British Empire
>That's a reference to the fact that it was very large and that at any time
>of day there would always be a territory that was daytime (it may not have
>been actually true but it was pretty close).
>Going West of the UK would have had Atlantic islands and Canada to keep it
>true until the sun got around to the Pacific and Australia.
>http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/maproom.htm
>And of course in the figurative sense.
>>because the British Empire is in the East and the sun sets in the West.
>If you forget the Caribbean, Canada, many pacific and Atlantic islands, as
>well as Ireland and New Zealand, all of which are west of England.
It was a kid's answer to an exam question, supposedly.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> The sun never set on the British Empire
>That's a reference to the fact that it was very large and that at any time
>of day there would always be a territory that was daytime (it may not have
>been actually true but it was pretty close).
>Going West of the UK would have had Atlantic islands and Canada to keep it
>true until the sun got around to the Pacific and Australia.
>http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/maproom.htm
>And of course in the figurative sense.
>>because the British Empire is in the East and the sun sets in the West.
>If you forget the Caribbean, Canada, many pacific and Atlantic islands, as
>well as Ireland and New Zealand, all of which are west of England.
It was a kid's answer to an exam question, supposedly.
Oct 19th 2004, 9:43 am
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:59:03 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:54:40 GMT, louis xiv wrote:
>> Aren't they different and beautiful in Autumn/Winter when the sun is lower
>> in the sky?
>The sun's always about the same hight in the sky at sunset. Oddly enough.
by incredible coincidence the sun is at the same height at dawn.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:54:40 GMT, louis xiv wrote:
>> Aren't they different and beautiful in Autumn/Winter when the sun is lower
>> in the sky?
>The sun's always about the same hight in the sky at sunset. Oddly enough.
by incredible coincidence the sun is at the same height at dawn.
Oct 19th 2004, 9:45 am
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:57:15 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:40:55 +0200, Ellie C wrote:
>> Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> Hatunen writes:
>>>
>>>>You don't go to Paris for the sunsets. If it's sunsets you want,
>>>>come to Arizona.
>>>
>>> Sunsets are the same everywhere. It's the same atmosphere, and the same
>>> nearby star.
>>>
>> Who knew that the whole planet had the same atmosphere locally? And here
>> I thought that things like humidity - and smog, a great maker of
>> colorful sunsets - varied from place to place.
>Nah, what do you know? :)
>Mixi has no soul. He's just a computer program anyway.
maybe so, but a release 10.235 is not to be sniffed at.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:40:55 +0200, Ellie C wrote:
>> Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> Hatunen writes:
>>>
>>>>You don't go to Paris for the sunsets. If it's sunsets you want,
>>>>come to Arizona.
>>>
>>> Sunsets are the same everywhere. It's the same atmosphere, and the same
>>> nearby star.
>>>
>> Who knew that the whole planet had the same atmosphere locally? And here
>> I thought that things like humidity - and smog, a great maker of
>> colorful sunsets - varied from place to place.
>Nah, what do you know? :)
>Mixi has no soul. He's just a computer program anyway.
maybe so, but a release 10.235 is not to be sniffed at.
Oct 19th 2004, 9:46 am
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:38:13 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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>Hatunen writes:
>> Calendars with photos of western American sunsets are published,
>> but I know of none with photos of Scots sunsets.
>In Scotland there are more interesting things to look at than the sky.
The pouring rain?
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>Hatunen writes:
>> Calendars with photos of western American sunsets are published,
>> but I know of none with photos of Scots sunsets.
>In Scotland there are more interesting things to look at than the sky.
The pouring rain?
Oct 19th 2004, 9:47 am
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:40:25 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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>Miss L. Toe writes:
>> Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded by palm
>> trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are different to
>> the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
>Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
>of them sometime.
Yet another reason for your poverty?
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>Miss L. Toe writes:
>> Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded by palm
>> trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are different to
>> the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
>Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
>of them sometime.
Yet another reason for your poverty?
Oct 19th 2004, 11:47 am
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And how's the sunlight tonality those days? its on the pale side or is it
yellowish, or how?
(I dont live in the northern hemisphere so if you find the question silly
please excuse me, your answers are always sharp so just took my chances and
asked)
Steven
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> louis xiv writes:
> > Aren't they different and beautiful in Autumn/Winter when the sun is
lower
> > in the sky?
> The sun moves above and below the horizon every day of the year at
> Paris, and that's where sunsets happen.
> The sun never even gets 20° above the horizon around the winter solstice
> at Paris. I find it depressing and irritating to the eyes (because
> you're either looking at blinding sunlight and deep shadow with the sun
> behind you, or you're looking directly into the sun).
> It's useful for "magic hour" shots, although that gets old quickly.
> --
> Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
yellowish, or how?
(I dont live in the northern hemisphere so if you find the question silly
please excuse me, your answers are always sharp so just took my chances and
asked)
Steven
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> louis xiv writes:
> > Aren't they different and beautiful in Autumn/Winter when the sun is
lower
> > in the sky?
> The sun moves above and below the horizon every day of the year at
> Paris, and that's where sunsets happen.
> The sun never even gets 20° above the horizon around the winter solstice
> at Paris. I find it depressing and irritating to the eyes (because
> you're either looking at blinding sunlight and deep shadow with the sun
> behind you, or you're looking directly into the sun).
> It's useful for "magic hour" shots, although that gets old quickly.
> --
> Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
Oct 19th 2004, 12:33 pm
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>>> You don't go to Paris for the sunsets. If it's sunsets you want,
>>> come to Arizona.
>> Bollocks. You could come to Scotland where we have some crackers
>> but us Scots have enough humility to recognise that they happen
>> elsewhere. The sun here sets in the west like it does in most
>> places, I imagine Paris is no exception. Get up high and enjoy.
> While I have no doubt you can sometimes see a rather nice sunset
> in Scotland, out here you are more likely to see a very good one
> for the simple reason that it is almost always clear weather, and
> what clouds we may have simply enhance the visual impact.
Interesting cloud structures make as much difference. I grew up in New
Zealand, which has both clear air and (in summer) very complex multi-
layered cloud systems including simultaneous high cumulus and extensive
cirrus or cirrostratus above it - makes for a spectacular display that
I never saw in the UK for the first 20 years I lived here. I'd have
agreed with Dave that Scottish sunsets were peely-wally affairs.
But I *have* started seeing it in the last few years - not as regularly
as in the northern end of the North Island, but a few days a year at
least. It correlates (within a week or two) with torrential downpours
of a kind that I'd also experienced often in NZ but not in Britain. My
meteorologically naive guess is that some global warming effect tends
to produce conditions where the troposphere deepens and gets more water-
laden with more intense vertical circulation across greater distances,
hence the huge ice-cream-sundae clouds going different shades of orange
and pink as the sun sets.
Southern Scotland has twice experienced a formerly quite rare sunset
phenomenon in recent years: nacreous clouds, produced by the injection
of water vapour into the stratosphere by violent turbulence. The water
freezes into needles, which fall in vertical alignment in the thin air
up there. The effect is optically like an immense chandelier tens of
miles across; looks like somebody painted the evening sky in swirls of
rainbow paint. Both followed a couple of days of strong crossed winds
at different heights in the troposphere.
I guess we are in for a lot more of this.
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>>> come to Arizona.
>> Bollocks. You could come to Scotland where we have some crackers
>> but us Scots have enough humility to recognise that they happen
>> elsewhere. The sun here sets in the west like it does in most
>> places, I imagine Paris is no exception. Get up high and enjoy.
> While I have no doubt you can sometimes see a rather nice sunset
> in Scotland, out here you are more likely to see a very good one
> for the simple reason that it is almost always clear weather, and
> what clouds we may have simply enhance the visual impact.
Interesting cloud structures make as much difference. I grew up in New
Zealand, which has both clear air and (in summer) very complex multi-
layered cloud systems including simultaneous high cumulus and extensive
cirrus or cirrostratus above it - makes for a spectacular display that
I never saw in the UK for the first 20 years I lived here. I'd have
agreed with Dave that Scottish sunsets were peely-wally affairs.
But I *have* started seeing it in the last few years - not as regularly
as in the northern end of the North Island, but a few days a year at
least. It correlates (within a week or two) with torrential downpours
of a kind that I'd also experienced often in NZ but not in Britain. My
meteorologically naive guess is that some global warming effect tends
to produce conditions where the troposphere deepens and gets more water-
laden with more intense vertical circulation across greater distances,
hence the huge ice-cream-sundae clouds going different shades of orange
and pink as the sun sets.
Southern Scotland has twice experienced a formerly quite rare sunset
phenomenon in recent years: nacreous clouds, produced by the injection
of water vapour into the stratosphere by violent turbulence. The water
freezes into needles, which fall in vertical alignment in the thin air
up there. The effect is optically like an immense chandelier tens of
miles across; looks like somebody painted the evening sky in swirls of
rainbow paint. Both followed a couple of days of strong crossed winds
at different heights in the troposphere.
I guess we are in for a lot more of this.
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Oct 19th 2004, 4:12 pm
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> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:04:10 -0600, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>You don't go to Paris for the sunsets. If it's sunsets you want,
>>>>come to Arizona.
>>>Are you in Tucson? My son has the possibility of spending January in
>>>Tucson as part of an architecture course. I'd be interested in what
>>>you think.
>>Yes, I'm in Tucson (that's me being quoted there). The only
>>problem with spending a month in Tucson is he may never want to
>>leave.
>>I moved here in 1966 to be a grad student, stayed after I dropped
>>out, left to pursue my employment in 1979, and now that I've
>>retired I've returned to the place I always wished I never left.
>
> Thanks, you've made me a bit more enthusiastic about forking out the
> cash for his trip.
> My son has had a change of plans, it's now February or March. So why
> have they picked Tucson for architecture?
If March he may be lucky and catch the beginning of the blooming season
for cactus.
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:04:10 -0600, Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>You don't go to Paris for the sunsets. If it's sunsets you want,
>>>>come to Arizona.
>>>Are you in Tucson? My son has the possibility of spending January in
>>>Tucson as part of an architecture course. I'd be interested in what
>>>you think.
>>Yes, I'm in Tucson (that's me being quoted there). The only
>>problem with spending a month in Tucson is he may never want to
>>leave.
>>I moved here in 1966 to be a grad student, stayed after I dropped
>>out, left to pursue my employment in 1979, and now that I've
>>retired I've returned to the place I always wished I never left.
>
> Thanks, you've made me a bit more enthusiastic about forking out the
> cash for his trip.
> My son has had a change of plans, it's now February or March. So why
> have they picked Tucson for architecture?
If March he may be lucky and catch the beginning of the blooming season
for cactus.
Oct 19th 2004, 8:31 pm
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Miss L. Toe writes:
> > Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded by
palm
> > trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are different
to
> > the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
> of them sometime.
There's more to life than photography.....
I wouldn't know where to start selling photographs of anything....
news:[email protected]...
> Miss L. Toe writes:
> > Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded by
palm
> > trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are different
to
> > the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
> of them sometime.
There's more to life than photography.....
I wouldn't know where to start selling photographs of anything....
Oct 19th 2004, 9:53 pm
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:31:25 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> Miss L. Toe writes:
>> > Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded by
>palm
>> > trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are different
>to
>> > the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
>> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
>> of them sometime.
>There's more to life than photography.....
>I wouldn't know where to start selling photographs of anything....
anything? :-)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> Miss L. Toe writes:
>> > Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded by
>palm
>> > trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are different
>to
>> > the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
>> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
>> of them sometime.
>There's more to life than photography.....
>I wouldn't know where to start selling photographs of anything....
anything? :-)
Oct 19th 2004, 10:08 pm
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> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:31:25 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> Miss L. Toe writes:
> >>
> >> > Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded
by
> >palm
> >> > trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are
different
> >to
> >> > the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
> >>
> >> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
> >> of them sometime.
> >>
> >
> >There's more to life than photography.....
> >
> >I wouldn't know where to start selling photographs of anything....
> anything? :-)
Anything that I take photographs of :-)
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> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:31:25 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> Miss L. Toe writes:
> >>
> >> > Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded
by
> >palm
> >> > trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are
different
> >to
> >> > the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
> >>
> >> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
> >> of them sometime.
> >>
> >
> >There's more to life than photography.....
> >
> >I wouldn't know where to start selling photographs of anything....
> anything? :-)
Anything that I take photographs of :-)
Oct 19th 2004, 10:25 pm
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:08:24 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:31:25 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> Miss L. Toe writes:
>> >>
>> >> > Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded
>by
>> >palm
>> >> > trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are
>different
>> >to
>> >> > the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
>> >>
>> >> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
>> >> of them sometime.
>> >>
>> >
>> >There's more to life than photography.....
>> >
>> >I wouldn't know where to start selling photographs of anything....
>> anything? :-)
>Anything that I take photographs of :-)
LOL that narrows it down a bit.
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:31:25 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> Miss L. Toe writes:
>> >>
>> >> > Rubbish - Sunsets over water with the reflection of the sun bounded
>by
>> >palm
>> >> > trees are different to cloudless sunsets over the desert are
>different
>> >to
>> >> > the glorious colours of sunset with the right clouds.
>> >>
>> >> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
>> >> of them sometime.
>> >>
>> >
>> >There's more to life than photography.....
>> >
>> >I wouldn't know where to start selling photographs of anything....
>> anything? :-)
>Anything that I take photographs of :-)
LOL that narrows it down a bit.
Oct 20th 2004, 1:39 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
> of them sometime.
They are some of the first shots that budding photographers usually take.
They can then impress their friends with their sunset shots, e.g., "Wow!
Look at these pretty sunset shots I took!" in order to elicit "oohs!" and
"aahs!". At least that was the case with me ;-)
--
Best
Greg
> Sunsets are some of the most boring images around. Try selling photos
> of them sometime.
They are some of the first shots that budding photographers usually take.
They can then impress their friends with their sunset shots, e.g., "Wow!
Look at these pretty sunset shots I took!" in order to elicit "oohs!" and
"aahs!". At least that was the case with me ;-)
--
Best
Greg
