"pdevoy" <[email protected]> wrote

> Smoking can cause a fire that could destroy many cabins and kill lots
> of people on a very expensive ship.

So how is that different from people who smoke in a hotel or a big office
building?

Drive a car. Walk down the street. Take a shower. People die doing these
things every day... life is fraught with danger. (HA! Not every day you get
to use the word "fraught".)

By all accounts, smoking is not a good thing. I don't smoke but that is my
decision for myself. I'll let others make the decision for themselves. I
hope everyone quits because I know what it is like to watch someone die from
cancer, but again, that is their decision.

BTW - here in good old Shreveport, LA (that's Louisiana, not Los Angeles) -
the local politicos are considering passing a law making it illegal for
people to wear "sagging pants" that expose their underwear.
http://tinyurl.com/yohlxn

Helmet laws. Seat belt laws. Smoking laws. Now laws about how someone
wears their pants.

Doesn't the government have better things to do?


--
George Leppla http://www.CruiseMaster.com

January 20, 2008 - GGC2008 - http://cruisemaster.com/adventure.htm
June 5, 2008 9 nt from NJ - http://www.cruisemaster.com/explorer.htm
October 26, 2008 Sleazy 5 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy5.htm

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:42:00 -0500, "George Leppla" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"pdevoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Smoking can cause a fire that could destroy many cabins and kill lots
>> of people on a very expensive ship.
>
>So how is that different from people who smoke in a hotel or a big office
>building?

You can walk a away from a hotel or a big office block.
--

Martin

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:42:00 -0500, "George Leppla"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"pdevoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>> Smoking can cause a fire that could destroy many cabins and kill lots
>>> of people on a very expensive ship.
>>
>>So how is that different from people who smoke in a hotel or a big office
>>building?
>

> You can walk a away from a hotel or a big office block.


Really? Then explain why between 2000 and 2005, over 175 people died in
hotel fires? http://www.crowddynamics.com/Disasters/hotel_fires.htm

Didn't they know they could just walk away?


--
George Leppla http://www.CruiseMaster.com

January 20, 2008 - GGC2008 - http://cruisemaster.com/adventure.htm
June 5, 2008 9 nt from NJ - http://www.cruisemaster.com/explorer.htm
October 26, 2008 Sleazy 5 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy5.htm

On 15 Aug, 18:15, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]. com>,
> Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yet, if they didnt smoke, none of those fires would get started.
>
> Yeah they'd just have to leave stuff on the stove, fire up the grill,
> etc. After almost 10 years investigating fires, I can tell you that
> alcohol leads to many fires even w/o the aid of cigs.
>
>
>
> > I have not fallen overboard or started fights onboard, but then I
> > drink in moderation.
>
> Yet..(g)

But smokers also fail to realise that cigarette smoke tastes and
smells abhorrent to non-smokers (who generally out number smokers by 7
to 3).
Perhaps if I shat in your mouth you could understand the effect.

On 15 Aug, 19:07, "George Leppla" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:42:00 -0500, "George Leppla"
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >>"pdevoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> >>> Smoking can cause a fire that could destroy many cabins and kill lots
> >>> of people on a very expensive ship.
>
> >>So how is that different from people who smoke in a hotel or a big office
> >>building?
>
> > You can walk a away from a hotel or a big office block.
>
> Really? Then explain why between 2000 and 2005, over 175 people died in
> hotel fires?http://www.crowddynamics.com/Disasters/hotel_fires.htm
>
> Didn't they know they could just walk away?
>
> --
> George Leppla http://www.CruiseMaster.com
>
> January 20, 2008 - GGC2008 -http://cruisemaster.com/adventure.htm
> June 5, 2008 9 nt from NJ -http://www.cruisemaster.com/explorer.htm
> October 26, 2008 Sleazy 5 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy5.htm

damn those crafty smokers again !

Make credence recognised that on Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:42:00 -0500,
"George Leppla" <[email protected]> has scripted:

>BTW - here in good old Shreveport, LA (that's Louisiana, not Los Angeles) -
>the local politicos are considering passing a law making it illegal for
>people to wear "sagging pants" that expose their underwear.
>http://tinyurl.com/yohlxn
>
>Helmet laws. Seat belt laws. Smoking laws. Now laws about how someone
>wears their pants.
>
>Doesn't the government have better things to do?

Why can't they ban fat chicks from having exposed g-strings?
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--

In article <[email protected]>,
"George Leppla" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "pdevoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > Smoking can cause a fire that could destroy many cabins and kill lots
> > of people on a very expensive ship.
>
> So how is that different from people who smoke in a hotel or a big office
> building?
Well if the local Holiday Inn burns, the FD is a lot closer and
you don't have to walk on water to get away should the fire get
completely out of hand.


> Helmet laws. Seat belt laws. Smoking laws. Now laws about how someone
> wears their pants.
>
> Doesn't the government have better things to do?

Generally speaking, I am much more comfortable with governments doing
things like this that what they might do if they ever got caught up with
the mundane. Sorta like I would prefer to keep a Mastiff busy with a
chew toy instead of my leg.
I leave with these words..
"Distracting a politician from governing is like distracting a
bear from eating your baby."

--PJ O'Rourke

In article <[email protected] .com>,
Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 15 Aug, 18:15, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]. com>,
> > Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yet, if they didnt smoke, none of those fires would get started.
> >
> > Yeah they'd just have to leave stuff on the stove, fire up the grill,
> > etc. After almost 10 years investigating fires, I can tell you that
> > alcohol leads to many fires even w/o the aid of cigs.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I have not fallen overboard or started fights onboard, but then I
> > > drink in moderation.
> >
> > Yet..(g)
>
> But smokers also fail to realise that cigarette smoke tastes and
> smells abhorrent to non-smokers (who generally out number smokers by 7
> to 3).
> Perhaps if I shat in your mouth you could understand the effect.

Of course, since this was originally a discussion on the fact
that alcohol is ALSO able to hurt others, not just yourself, don't you
think this going a little far afield?

Doesn't Frequently Mop <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:

>Make credence recognised that on Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:42:00 -0500,
>"George Leppla" <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>
>>Doesn't the government have better things to do?
>
>Why can't they ban fat chicks from having exposed g-strings?
>
It's better than the alternative.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/

On 15 Aug, 20:16, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected] .com>,
> Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 15 Aug, 18:15, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]. com>,
> > > Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Yet, if they didnt smoke, none of those fires would get started.
>
> > > Yeah they'd just have to leave stuff on the stove, fire up the grill,
> > > etc. After almost 10 years investigating fires, I can tell you that
> > > alcohol leads to many fires even w/o the aid of cigs.
>
> > > > I have not fallen overboard or started fights onboard, but then I
> > > > drink in moderation.
>
> > > Yet..(g)
>
> > But smokers also fail to realise that cigarette smoke tastes and
> > smells abhorrent to non-smokers (who generally out number smokers by 7
> > to 3).
> > Perhaps if I shat in your mouth you could understand the effect.
>
> Of course, since this was originally a discussion on the fact
> that alcohol is ALSO able to hurt others, not just yourself, don't you
> think this going a little far afield?

the title is smoke-free cruising.......

In article <[email protected] .com>,
Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 15 Aug, 20:16, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected] .com>,
> > Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 15 Aug, 18:15, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > In article <[email protected]. com>,
> > > > Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Yet, if they didnt smoke, none of those fires would get started.
> >
> > > > Yeah they'd just have to leave stuff on the stove, fire up the grill,
> > > > etc. After almost 10 years investigating fires, I can tell you that
> > > > alcohol leads to many fires even w/o the aid of cigs.
> >
> > > > > I have not fallen overboard or started fights onboard, but then I
> > > > > drink in moderation.
> >
> > > > Yet..(g)
> >
> > > But smokers also fail to realise that cigarette smoke tastes and
> > > smells abhorrent to non-smokers (who generally out number smokers by 7
> > > to 3).
> > > Perhaps if I shat in your mouth you could understand the effect.
> >
> > Of course, since this was originally a discussion on the fact
> > that alcohol is ALSO able to hurt others, not just yourself, don't you
> > think this going a little far afield?
>
> the title is smoke-free cruising.......

You were the one who brought up the alcohol being different
from smoking. Don't blame me for your detour.

On 15 Aug, 21:04, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected] .com>,
> Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 15 Aug, 20:16, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected] .com>,
> > > Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 15 Aug, 18:15, Kurt Ullman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > In article <[email protected]. com>,
> > > > > Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Yet, if they didnt smoke, none of those fires would get started.
>
> > > > > Yeah they'd just have to leave stuff on the stove, fire up the grill,
> > > > > etc. After almost 10 years investigating fires, I can tell you that
> > > > > alcohol leads to many fires even w/o the aid of cigs.
>
> > > > > > I have not fallen overboard or started fights onboard, but then I
> > > > > > drink in moderation.
>
> > > > > Yet..(g)
>
> > > > But smokers also fail to realise that cigarette smoke tastes and
> > > > smells abhorrent to non-smokers (who generally out number smokers by 7
> > > > to 3).
> > > > Perhaps if I shat in your mouth you could understand the effect.
>
> > > Of course, since this was originally a discussion on the fact
> > > that alcohol is ALSO able to hurt others, not just yourself, don't you
> > > think this going a little far afield?
>
> > the title is smoke-free cruising.......
>
> You were the one who brought up the alcohol being different
> from smoking. Don't blame me for your detour.

wrong.

Robert wrote:
>
> Not again, another posting about smoking, when will it ever stop.


A whole boat and nowhere to smoke that some anal retentive can't find a
place to have their hissy fits.

I can imagine our pleased the next guest in the author's cabin would be to
have it stinking of cheap perfume. A room would have to be that perfume
would be an improvement.

In article <[email protected]>,
"George Leppla" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "pdevoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > Smoking can cause a fire that could destroy many cabins and kill lots
> > of people on a very expensive ship.
>
> So how is that different from people who smoke in a hotel or a big office
> building?

You can escape the hotel or office building a wee bit more easily than a
ship in the middle of a large body of water.

--
Mary, biblioholic

bib-li-o-hol-ism : the habitual longing to purchase, read, store,
admire, and consume books in excess.

http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo

"Have a Safe & Gorgeous trip" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
I don't mind people killing themselves.
>
AMEN