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Old Aug 9th 2005, 10:12 pm
  #46  
Runge
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here she is babbling about her US affairs
Duh can't YOU forget THAT GROUP ?

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
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    > Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> Rog' writes:
    >>>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >>>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >>>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >> It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    >> people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    > Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these days, why would
    > anyone be willing to put up with the hassle? Disneyland in California is
    > making a big thing out of its fiftieth anniversary this year, but I
    > haven't noticing them rolling back their prices to the original ones as an
    > advertising gimmick! IIRC, when they first started the "all rides
    > included along with admission" policy - a year or so after they opened -
    > it cost something like $5 for children, $7.50 for adults. Of course
    > everything else was a lot cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but
    > now you can figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
    > (For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)
    >
 
Old Aug 9th 2005, 10:13 pm
  #47  
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Oh what a deep, sensible remark !

"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:58:14 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>> Rog' writes:
    >>>>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >>>>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >>>>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >>> It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    >>> people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    >>Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
    >>days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?
    >> Disneyland in California is making a big thing out of its
    >>fiftieth anniversary this year, but I haven't noticing them
    >>rolling back their prices to the original ones as an
    >>advertising gimmick!
    > Odd that none of the airlines have done the same :-)
    >> IIRC, when they first started the "all
    >>rides included along with admission" policy - a year or so
    >>after they opened - it cost something like $5 for children,
    >>$7.50 for adults. Of course everything else was a lot
    >>cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but now you can
    >>figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
    >> (For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)
    > Is it really so much in Anaheim? We found it cheap 12 years ago.
    > Ticket prices are well hidden on the Disney web site but ...
    > It seems to cost more for one child under 10 than we paid for a family
    > of 4 in 1992.
    > --
    > Martin
 
Old Aug 9th 2005, 10:16 pm
  #48  
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Sorry folks, she forgot something, I'll rewrite it for you :

It's certainly NOT just Air Canada. I don't remember for
certain, but I think it has ALWAYS been standard airline
practice with overseas travelers, even BEFORE 9/11.
Certainly you have to show your passport at check-in (and
would not be allowed to board without one). It just speeds
up the process if they ALREADY have the number in their
records.

NOW THINKING ABOUT IT? HOW RUDE AND DISREGARDING THAT DIVATHING CAN BE?
BLAHBLAH ABOUT NORTH AMERICAN MATTERS ON THE EUROPEAN GROUP


"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
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    > katyjane wrote:
    >> Is this something new that all airlines are asking for,
    >> or is it an Air Canada thing?
    > It's certainly not just Air Canada. I don't remember for certain, but I
    > think it has always been standard airline practice with overseas
    > travelers, even before 9/11. Certainly you have to show your passport at
    > check-in (and would not be allowed to board without one). It just speeds
    > up the process if they already have the number in their records.
    >
 
Old Aug 10th 2005, 2:13 am
  #49  
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Martin wrote:

    > On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:58:14 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>>Rog' writes:
    >>>>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >>>>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >>>>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >>>It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    >>>people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    >>Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
    >>days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?
    >> Disneyland in California is making a big thing out of its
    >>fiftieth anniversary this year, but I haven't noticing them
    >>rolling back their prices to the original ones as an
    >>advertising gimmick!
    >
    >
    > Odd that none of the airlines have done the same :-)
    >
    >
    >>IIRC, when they first started the "all
    >>rides included along with admission" policy - a year or so
    >>after they opened - it cost something like $5 for children,
    >>$7.50 for adults. Of course everything else was a lot
    >>cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but now you can
    >>figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
    >> (For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)
    >
    >
    > Is it really so much in Anaheim? We found it cheap 12 years ago.

SFAIK. (I judge by the supermarket ads offering "discount"
coupons for grocery purchases - the "discounted" prices they
state are far higher than we paid, not that many years ago!

    >
    > Ticket prices are well hidden on the Disney web site but ...
    >
    > It seems to cost more for one child under 10 than we paid for a family
    > of 4 in 1992.

I think you're right. But amusement parks have discovered
that people will PAY those exorbitant prices, so they charge
them. Years ago, Knott's Berry Farm (also in Anaheim or
nearby) did not charge any admission at all, and had a
number of free attractions, too. (We used to go there to
hear a rather good folk-singing group, who did several
open-air shows a day - unamplified, in a very small
"arena".) The park began charging a nominal admission to
discourage hippies, back in the sixties - now Knott's prices
rival Disney's!
 
Old Aug 10th 2005, 4:06 am
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Timothy Kroesen writes:

    > You're speaking from absolutely no experience whatsoever again, *as
    > usual*. I live about Sixty Miles from the park and have been there at
    > least 25 times over the last Forty or so years.

How many people 6000 miles from the park have been there?

    > Cedar point is open Six Months of the Year and has a myriad of things to
    > offer besides the coasters. Just read the website to note all the other
    > attractions you apparently illiterate and clearly foolish pundit...

I'm familiar with its "myriad" things to offer, and I don't really see
any attraction to the place except the roller coasters. I suppose if
one lives only sixty miles away it might be a place to go, but
otherwise I don't see any point.
 
Old Aug 10th 2005, 5:35 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
    > Timothy Kroesen writes:
    > > You're speaking from absolutely no experience whatsoever again, *as
    > > usual*. I live about Sixty Miles from the park and have been there at
    > > least 25 times over the last Forty or so years.
    > How many people 6000 miles from the park have been there?
    > > Cedar point is open Six Months of the Year and has a myriad of things to
    > > offer besides the coasters. Just read the website to note all the other
    > > attractions you apparently illiterate and clearly foolish pundit...
    > I'm familiar with its "myriad" things to offer, and I don't really see
    > any attraction to the place except the roller coasters. I suppose if
    > one lives only sixty miles away it might be a place to go, but
    > otherwise I don't see any point.

As someone who doesn't like baseball, I see no point in going to Kenway
Park except for the hot dogs. I suppose if I lived only 6 feet away I
might go, but otherwise not.

G;
 
Old Aug 10th 2005, 5:45 am
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Martin wrote:
    >> On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:58:14 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>>>Rog' writes:
    >>>>>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >>>>>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >>>>>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >>>>It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    >>>>people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    >>>Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these days, why would
    >>>anyone be willing to put up with the hassle? Disneyland in California is
    >>>making a big thing out of its fiftieth anniversary this year, but I
    >>>haven't noticing them rolling back their prices to the original ones as
    >>>an advertising gimmick!
    >> Odd that none of the airlines have done the same :-)
    >>>IIRC, when they first started the "all rides included along with
    >>>admission" policy - a year or so after they opened - it cost something
    >>>like $5 for children, $7.50 for adults. Of course everything else was a
    >>>lot cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but now you can figure
    >>>two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200. (For a day in an
    >>>"amusement park"!!!)
    >> Is it really so much in Anaheim? We found it cheap 12 years ago.
    > SFAIK. (I judge by the supermarket ads offering "discount" coupons for
    > grocery purchases - the "discounted" prices they state are far higher than
    > we paid, not that many years ago!
    >> Ticket prices are well hidden on the Disney web site but ...
    >> It seems to cost more for one child under 10 than we paid for a family
    >> of 4 in 1992.
    > I think you're right. But amusement parks have discovered that people
    > will PAY those exorbitant prices, so they charge them. Years ago, Knott's
    > Berry Farm (also in Anaheim or nearby) did not charge any admission at
    > all, and had a number of free attractions, too. (We used to go there to
    > hear a rather good folk-singing group, who did several open-air shows a
    > day - unamplified, in a very small "arena".) The park began charging a
    > nominal admission to discourage hippies, back in the sixties - now Knott's
    > prices rival Disney's!

Knott's added lots of attractions / rides. We still eat dinner and or
breakfast there occasionally as the food is good. Back in the 60's they had
the parachute ride, and you paid for that and the other couple of tides.
 
Old Aug 10th 2005, 7:59 am
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 19:13:11 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Martin wrote:
    >> On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:58:14 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>>>Rog' writes:
    >>>>>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >>>>>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >>>>>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >>>>It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    >>>>people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    >>>Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
    >>>days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?
    >>> Disneyland in California is making a big thing out of its
    >>>fiftieth anniversary this year, but I haven't noticing them
    >>>rolling back their prices to the original ones as an
    >>>advertising gimmick!
    >>
    >>
    >> Odd that none of the airlines have done the same :-)
    >>
    >>
    >>>IIRC, when they first started the "all
    >>>rides included along with admission" policy - a year or so
    >>>after they opened - it cost something like $5 for children,
    >>>$7.50 for adults. Of course everything else was a lot
    >>>cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but now you can
    >>>figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
    >>> (For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)
    >>
    >>
    >> Is it really so much in Anaheim? We found it cheap 12 years ago.
    >SFAIK. (I judge by the supermarket ads offering "discount"
    >coupons for grocery purchases - the "discounted" prices they
    >state are far higher than we paid, not that many years ago!
    >>
    >> Ticket prices are well hidden on the Disney web site but ...
    >>
    >> It seems to cost more for one child under 10 than we paid for a family
    >> of 4 in 1992.
    >I think you're right. But amusement parks have discovered
    >that people will PAY those exorbitant prices, so they charge
    >them. Years ago, Knott's Berry Farm (also in Anaheim or
    >nearby) did not charge any admission at all, and had a
    >number of free attractions, too.

AFAIR the first time I went to Knott's Berry Farm was in 1972, there
wasn't a lot on offer. By 1992 there was much more, but it was still
poor compared to Disneyland

    >(We used to go there to
    >hear a rather good folk-singing group, who did several
    >open-air shows a day - unamplified, in a very small
    >"arena".) The park began charging a nominal admission to
    >discourage hippies, back in the sixties - now Knott's prices
    >rival Disney's!

Maybe the attractions too by, now? :-)
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Old Aug 10th 2005, 9:13 am
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Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco

    >I dunno. I admire the shuttle- it's an awesome piece of technology. But,
    >would the BBC Lunchtime news have devoted so much time to it landing
    >today (it used to not even make the bulletin) if it hadn't been out of
    >slightly goulish interest to see if it didn't disintegrate on re-entry?

news = bad news.
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Old Aug 10th 2005, 9:13 am
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Following up to Mxsmanic

    >> like Spaniards?
    >Yes.

you like Spaniards? Good.
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Old Aug 10th 2005, 9:28 am
  #56  
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:13:38 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
    >prestwich tesco
    >>I dunno. I admire the shuttle- it's an awesome piece of technology. But,
    >>would the BBC Lunchtime news have devoted so much time to it landing
    >>today (it used to not even make the bulletin) if it hadn't been out of
    >>slightly goulish interest to see if it didn't disintegrate on re-entry?
    >news = bad news.

plus loads of negative gossip from experts.
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Old Aug 10th 2005, 9:28 am
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:13:38 +0100, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to Mxsmanic
    >>> like Spaniards?
    >>Yes.
    >you like Spaniards? Good.

Only the white skinned ones.
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Old Aug 10th 2005, 9:41 am
  #58  
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Martin a écrit :

    > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:13:38 +0100, The Reids
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >Following up to Mxsmanic
    > >
    > >>> like Spaniards?
    > >>
    > >>Yes.
    > >
    > >you like Spaniards? Good.
    > Only the white skinned ones.

You mean the ones from South America?

G;
 
Old Aug 10th 2005, 9:49 am
  #59  
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On 10 Aug 2005 02:41:23 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >Martin a écrit :
    >> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:13:38 +0100, The Reids
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >Following up to Mxsmanic
    >> >
    >> >>> like Spaniards?
    >> >>
    >> >>Yes.
    >> >
    >> >you like Spaniards? Good.
    >> Only the white skinned ones.
    >You mean the ones from South America?

Aren't they the olive skinned ones, with stomachs full of condoms?
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Old Aug 10th 2005, 9:58 am
  #60  
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Martin a écrit :

    > On 10 Aug 2005 02:41:23 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > >Martin a écrit :
    > >
    > >> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:13:38 +0100, The Reids
    > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >Following up to Mxsmanic
    > >> >
    > >> >>> like Spaniards?
    > >> >>
    > >> >>Yes.
    > >> >
    > >> >you like Spaniards? Good.
    > >>
    > >> Only the white skinned ones.
    > >
    > >You mean the ones from South America?
    > Aren't they the olive skinned ones, with stomachs full of condoms?

Hard to say for sure, but I don't think the cafe's at Gare du Nord are
as bad as that.

G;
 


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