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Old Aug 9th 2005, 1:37 am
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EvelynVogtGamble
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katyjane wrote:

    > Is this something new that all airlines are asking for,
    > or is it an Air Canada thing?

It's certainly not just Air Canada. I don't remember for
certain, but I think it has always been standard airline
practice with overseas travelers, even before 9/11.
Certainly you have to show your passport at check-in (and
would not be allowed to board without one). It just speeds
up the process if they already have the number in their
records.
 
Old Aug 9th 2005, 1:58 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:

    > Rog' writes:
    >
    >
    >>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >
    >
    > It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    > people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.

Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?
Disneyland in California is making a big thing out of its
fiftieth anniversary this year, but I haven't noticing them
rolling back their prices to the original ones as an
advertising gimmick! IIRC, when they first started the "all
rides included along with admission" policy - a year or so
after they opened - it cost something like $5 for children,
$7.50 for adults. Of course everything else was a lot
cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but now you can
figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
(For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)
 
Old Aug 9th 2005, 2:15 am
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)) wrote:

    > *From:* "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]>
    > *Date:* Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:37:34 -0700
    >
    >
    >
    > katyjane wrote:
    >
    > > Is this something new that all airlines are asking for,
    > > or is it an Air Canada thing?
    >
    > It's certainly not just Air Canada. I don't remember for
    > certain, but I think it has always been standard airline
    > practice with overseas travelers, even before 9/11.
    > Certainly you have to show your passport at check-in (and
    > would not be allowed to board without one).

Of course. But it certainly has not been standard practice to ask for it
at booking time. (Not that I have a problem with the concept.)


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Old Aug 9th 2005, 2:37 am
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)) wrote:

    > *From:* "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]>
    > *Date:* Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:58:14 -0700
    >
    >
    >
    > Mxsmanic wrote:
    >
    > > Rog' writes:
    > >
    > >
    > >>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    > >>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    > >>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    > >
    > >
    > > It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    > > people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    >
    > Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
    > days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?

Because it's a good package in many ways. I don't much like the few Disney
places I've been to, but I don't have children. I know many parents - as
I'm sure you do - who appreciate what it has to offer them. And it's
pretty much harmless.

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Old Aug 9th 2005, 3:31 am
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> Rog' writes:
    >>>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >>>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >>>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >> It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    >> people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    > Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these days, why would
    > anyone be willing to put up with the hassle? Disneyland in California is
    > making a big thing out of its fiftieth anniversary this year, but I
    > haven't noticing them rolling back their prices to the original ones as an
    > advertising gimmick! IIRC, when they first started the "all rides
    > included along with admission" policy - a year or so after they opened -
    > it cost something like $5 for children, $7.50 for adults. Of course
    > everything else was a lot cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but
    > now you can figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
    > (For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)

The all rides included was a lot later than a couple of years after they
opened. Wife and I got married in 1968 and we still had the booklets with
the different tickets. At least through 1971. Remember that is where the
term "E Ticket ride" originates from. There were like 2 E tickets in the
book. And a couple of A tickets. Always saved an A ticket for the main
street trolley car at the end of the evening.
 
Old Aug 9th 2005, 5:13 am
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Padraig Breathnach writes:

    > But some are trying to corner the market.

The competition is formidable.
 
Old Aug 9th 2005, 5:31 am
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:

    > Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
    > days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?

I don't know. When Disneyland starts behaving like the NSA, perhaps
it's time to find other amusement parks to visit.

    > Of course everything else was a lot
    > cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but now you can
    > figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
    > (For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)

At Disneyland Paris this would run about $210 for admission, plus the
cost of food and things, for one park. For both parks it's a bit
higher. This is for one day. It's slightly cheaper if the kids are
under 12.
 
Old Aug 9th 2005, 8:34 am
  #23  
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:58:14 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mxsmanic wrote:
    >> Rog' writes:
    >>
    >>
    >>>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >>>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >>>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >>
    >>
    >> It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    >> people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    >Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
    >days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?
    > Disneyland in California is making a big thing out of its
    >fiftieth anniversary this year, but I haven't noticing them
    >rolling back their prices to the original ones as an
    >advertising gimmick!

Odd that none of the airlines have done the same :-)

    > IIRC, when they first started the "all
    >rides included along with admission" policy - a year or so
    >after they opened - it cost something like $5 for children,
    >$7.50 for adults. Of course everything else was a lot
    >cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but now you can
    >figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
    > (For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)

Is it really so much in Anaheim? We found it cheap 12 years ago.

Ticket prices are well hidden on the Disney web site but ...

It seems to cost more for one child under 10 than we paid for a family
of 4 in 1992.
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Old Aug 9th 2005, 8:51 am
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 07:31:58 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
    >> Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
    >> days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?
    >I don't know. When Disneyland starts behaving like the NSA, perhaps
    >it's time to find other amusement parks to visit.
    >> Of course everything else was a lot
    >> cheaper in those days, too (as were wages), but now you can
    >> figure two adults and two kids are lucky to get by for $200.
    >> (For a day in an "amusement park"!!!)
    >At Disneyland Paris this would run about $210 for admission, plus the
    >cost of food and things, for one park. For both parks it's a bit
    >higher. This is for one day. It's slightly cheaper if the kids are
    >under 12.

under 10 in Anaheim.
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Old Aug 9th 2005, 9:18 am
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:37:41 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    >(EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)) wrote:
    >> *From:* "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]>
    >> *Date:* Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:58:14 -0700
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Mxsmanic wrote:
    >>
    >> > Rog' writes:
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >>BTW, I'm talking a 3N cruise to the Bahamas /from/ Florida, and
    >> >>the cruiseline similar info for Homeland Security. Next it'll apply
    >> >>to folks trying to get into Disney.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > It already does. Disney started requiring fingerprint scans for
    >> > people entering their parks in central Florida this summer.
    >>
    >> Considering what it COSTS to visit Disneyland, etc. these
    >> days, why would anyone be willing to put up with the hassle?
    >Because it's a good package in many ways. I don't much like the few Disney
    >places I've been to, but I don't have children. I know many parents - as
    >I'm sure you do - who appreciate what it has to offer them. And it's
    >pretty much harmless.

We found Disney land in Anaheim good value in 1992. Our two children
were 9 and 11 when we went there.The food was reasonab;ly priced too.
The food cost no more inside than outside and was the same quality.
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Old Aug 9th 2005, 9:35 am
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 02:26:10 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>No country has a monopoly on stupidity.
    >But some are trying to corner the market.

Some are exporting it to France.
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Old Aug 9th 2005, 11:43 am
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Following up to Mxsmanic

    >> But I'm white, so it probably wouldn't happen.
    >So are Arabs

like Spaniards?
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Old Aug 9th 2005, 11:57 am
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:43:53 +0100, The Reids
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    >Following up to Mxsmanic
    >>> But I'm white, so it probably wouldn't happen.
    >>So are Arabs
    >like Spaniards?

and brown Americans.

Discovery is 1000 miles from touch down.
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Old Aug 9th 2005, 12:10 pm
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In article <[email protected]>, Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:43:53 +0100, The Reids
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Following up to Mxsmanic
    > >
    > >>> But I'm white, so it probably wouldn't happen.
    > >>
    > >>So are Arabs
    > >
    > >like Spaniards?
    >
    > and brown Americans.
    >
    > Discovery is 1000 miles from touch down.

Boom! Boom!... coming home safely

jay
 
Old Aug 9th 2005, 12:15 pm
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In article <090820050510559435%[email protected]>, Go Fig <[email protected]>
wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>, Martin
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:43:53 +0100, The Reids
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >Following up to Mxsmanic
    > > >
    > > >>> But I'm white, so it probably wouldn't happen.
    > > >>
    > > >>So are Arabs
    > > >
    > > >like Spaniards?
    > >
    > > and brown Americans.
    > >
    > > Discovery is 1000 miles from touch down.
    >
    > Boom! Boom!... coming home safely

"wheels stop" in California !

jay
Tue Aug 09, 2005
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    >
    > jay
 


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