On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:21:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>> I find a pound much nearer to what I'm likely to buy, seafood in Ks
>> looks absurdly expensive and how often do you want a kilo?
>
>half a kilo isn't a problem, but it depends what you're buying. I don't
>think much about weight when I'm buying seafood anyway- I'll say, one of
>those, a dozen of those and so on.

I know it isn't a problem, its just that a pound is nearer to what one
buys and the K price looks absurd relative to the purchase (in spain
they often use 250 g prices).

>> Yes, but i'm contrasting the key quantity and its relevance (of course
>> we can cope). I have drunk a litre glass of beer, but its hardly
>> convenient!
>
>But a half-litre isn't any more difficult to order than a half pint!

i never order a half pint!
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On 10 May 2007 02:20:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>On 10 mei, 11:23, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> Make credence recognised that on Thu, 10 May 2007 09:36:08 +0100, The
>> Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
>>
>> >On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:18:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >>> same anywhere. I have no idea how tall I am in metric.
>>
>> >>I don't think it's about ability.
>>
>> >not at all. I assume the OP was a troll.
>>
>> Mr Newport a troll? How dare you!
>>
>> >>I was brought up with the metric
>> >>system at school. I understand it perfectly well, but even for me, I
>> >>still 'feel' certain imperial measurements more. My height and weight in
>> >>imperial,
>>
>> >my weight is UK stones, when I hear x lbs it means nothing without a
>> >mental calculation.
>>
>> My weight is easy in kgs - 100.
>>
>> (who's a big boy then?)
>
>Fat bastard :-)

Big fat bastard.
--

Martin

On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:21:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:54:33 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> > There's
>> >surely no more relevance to us of a mile than a kilometer, even a pound
>> >to a kilogramme?
>>
>> I find a pound much nearer to what I'm likely to buy, seafood in Ks
>> looks absurdly expensive and how often do you want a kilo?
>
>half a kilo isn't a problem, but it depends what you're buying. I don't
>think much about weight when I'm buying seafood anyway- I'll say, one of
>those, a dozen of those and so on.
>
>>
>> >> The metric system is of a scientific basis. It gives the great
>> >> advantage of easy to use subdivisions which you certainly don't get in
>> >> imperial! But you do get a name for a glass of beer about the size you
>> >> want
>> >
>> >Not sure about that. I can easily deal with a half or quarter litre of
>> >beer.
>>
>> Yes, but i'm contrasting the key quantity and its relevance (of course
>> we can cope). I have drunk a litre glass of beer, but its hardly
>> convenient!
>
>But a half-litre isn't any more difficult to order than a half pint!

Don't you mean a quarter of a litre?
--

Martin

On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:18:04 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Make credence recognised that on Wed, 09 May 2007 22:23:55 GMT, Alan S
><[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:50:09 +0200, Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:31:41 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
>>>this:
>>>
>>> ... Make credence recognised that on Wed, 09 May 2007 12:12:14 GMT, Alan S
>>> ... <[email protected]> has scripted:
>>> ...
>>> ... >On 9 May 2007 03:26:06 -0700, Chiken Koma
>>> ... ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>> ... >
>>> ... >>On 9 May, 12:19, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> ... >>>
>>> ... >>> Why?
>>> ... >>>
>>> ... >>> It keeps Alzheimer's away:-)
>>> ... >>>
>>> ... >>> I grew up with LSD
>>> ... >>
>>> ... >>good trip :?)
>>> ... >
>>> ... > :-))
>>> ... >
>>> ... >Never a user though.
>>> ...
>>> ... I'm still trying to figure out what you really meant.
>>>
>>>Where did he lose you?
>>
>>Somehow I lost him - never saw his reply and I certainly
>>don't have DFM kfed.
>
>Bloody thick skinned Ozzies - impossible to upset.
>
Hopefully you'll never have the need to meet me over on
a.s.d; less thick-skinned there, as some here know:-)


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:05:38 +0100, The Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>Not sure about that. I can easily deal with a half or quarter litre of
>>beer.
>
>Yes, but i'm contrasting the key quantity and its relevance (of course
>we can cope). I have drunk a litre glass of beer, but its hardly
>convenient!

I found half-litres in Munich on a Saturday morning in the
square very convenient. No queue when the queue for litres
was 100 deep. For a very logical people that particular bit
of logic escaped me. Until I realised that there was a sort
of macho thing - it wasn't done to be seen drinking such a
wimp size.

So I was a wimp - and got served much more quickly:-)


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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latest: Slovenia
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/

On Wed, 09 May 2007 19:17:32 +0200, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:

>Martin schrieb:
>> On Wed, 9 May 2007 11:57:25 +0200, "Turan Fettahoglu" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Campaigners fighting EU plans to abolish imperial measures have
>>>>> claimed victory for pounds and ounces.
>>> When the old pound/shilling/pence system was abolished in 1973, an elderly
>>> couple asked me about the metric system: "Is it really easier?"
>>>
>>> Germany has used the decimal system for ages, but my grandma still
>>> calculated in metric pounds (500 grams) instead of kilos.
>>
>> and the 100 gm ounce?
>
>That's Italy (un etto). In Germany, it is quite normal nowadays to buy
>meat or fruit by the pound.

Buying food by both the ounce and the pound is common in the Netherlands.
--

Martin

On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:54:33 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:


>Not sure about that. I can easily deal with a half or quarter litre of
>beer.

or even several?
--

Martin

Make credence recognised that on 10 May 2007 02:20:17 -0700,
[email protected] has scripted:

>On 10 mei, 11:23, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> Make credence recognised that on Thu, 10 May 2007 09:36:08 +0100, The
>> Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
>>
>> >On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:18:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >>> same anywhere. I have no idea how tall I am in metric.
>>
>> >>I don't think it's about ability.
>>
>> >not at all. I assume the OP was a troll.
>>
>> Mr Newport a troll? How dare you!
>>
>> >>I was brought up with the metric
>> >>system at school. I understand it perfectly well, but even for me, I
>> >>still 'feel' certain imperial measurements more. My height and weight in
>> >>imperial,
>>
>> >my weight is UK stones, when I hear x lbs it means nothing without a
>> >mental calculation.
>>
>> My weight is easy in kgs - 100.
>>
>> (who's a big boy then?)
>
>Fat bastard :-)

It's all in my mind!
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:38:43 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this:

... Make credence recognised that on 10 May 2007 02:20:17 -0700,
... [email protected] has scripted:
...
... >On 10 mei, 11:23, Deeply Filled Mortician
... ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
... >> Make credence recognised that on Thu, 10 May 2007 09:36:08 +0100, The
... >> Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
... >>
... >> >On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:18:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
... >> >_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
... >>
... >> >>> same anywhere. I have no idea how tall I am in metric.
... >>
... >> >>I don't think it's about ability.
... >>
... >> >not at all. I assume the OP was a troll.
... >>
... >> Mr Newport a troll? How dare you!
... >>
... >> >>I was brought up with the metric
... >> >>system at school. I understand it perfectly well, but even for me, I
... >> >>still 'feel' certain imperial measurements more. My height and weight in
... >> >>imperial,
... >>
... >> >my weight is UK stones, when I hear x lbs it means nothing without a
... >> >mental calculation.
... >>
... >> My weight is easy in kgs - 100.
... >>
... >> (who's a big boy then?)
... >
... >Fat bastard :-)
...
... It's all in my mind!

The wife's cooking must be divine.

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:21:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:54:33 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> > There's
> >> >surely no more relevance to us of a mile than a kilometer, even a pound
> >> >to a kilogramme?
> >>
> >> I find a pound much nearer to what I'm likely to buy, seafood in Ks
> >> looks absurdly expensive and how often do you want a kilo?
> >
> >half a kilo isn't a problem, but it depends what you're buying. I don't
> >think much about weight when I'm buying seafood anyway- I'll say, one of
> >those, a dozen of those and so on.
> >
> >>
> >> >> The metric system is of a scientific basis. It gives the great
> >> >> advantage of easy to use subdivisions which you certainly don't get in
> >> >> imperial! But you do get a name for a glass of beer about the size you
> >> >> want
> >> >
> >> >Not sure about that. I can easily deal with a half or quarter litre of
> >> >beer.
> >>
> >> Yes, but i'm contrasting the key quantity and its relevance (of course
> >> we can cope). I have drunk a litre glass of beer, but its hardly
> >> convenient!
> >
> >But a half-litre isn't any more difficult to order than a half pint!
>
> Don't you mean a quarter of a litre?

No- just pointing out that people use half measurements if the
'convenient' one isn't right for them.

--
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David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:54:33 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>
> >Not sure about that. I can easily deal with a half or quarter litre of
> >beer.
>
> or even several?

Good point.

--
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(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:44:26 +0200, Magda <magda@eu> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:38:43 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
>this:
>
> ... Make credence recognised that on 10 May 2007 02:20:17 -0700,
> ... [email protected] has scripted:
> ...
> ... >On 10 mei, 11:23, Deeply Filled Mortician
> ... ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> ... >> Make credence recognised that on Thu, 10 May 2007 09:36:08 +0100, The
> ... >> Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
> ... >>
> ... >> >On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:18:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> ... >> >_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> ... >>
> ... >> >>> same anywhere. I have no idea how tall I am in metric.
> ... >>
> ... >> >>I don't think it's about ability.
> ... >>
> ... >> >not at all. I assume the OP was a troll.
> ... >>
> ... >> Mr Newport a troll? How dare you!
> ... >>
> ... >> >>I was brought up with the metric
> ... >> >>system at school. I understand it perfectly well, but even for me, I
> ... >> >>still 'feel' certain imperial measurements more. My height and weight in
> ... >> >>imperial,
> ... >>
> ... >> >my weight is UK stones, when I hear x lbs it means nothing without a
> ... >> >mental calculation.
> ... >>
> ... >> My weight is easy in kgs - 100.
> ... >>
> ... >> (who's a big boy then?)
> ... >
> ... >Fat bastard :-)
> ...
> ... It's all in my mind!
>
>The wife's cooking must be divine.

The Blobbies?
--

Martin

On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:38:43 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Make credence recognised that on 10 May 2007 02:20:17 -0700,
>[email protected] has scripted:
>
>>On 10 mei, 11:23, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>> Make credence recognised that on Thu, 10 May 2007 09:36:08 +0100, The
>>> Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
>>>
>>> >On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:18:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>> >_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> same anywhere. I have no idea how tall I am in metric.
>>>
>>> >>I don't think it's about ability.
>>>
>>> >not at all. I assume the OP was a troll.
>>>
>>> Mr Newport a troll? How dare you!
>>>
>>> >>I was brought up with the metric
>>> >>system at school. I understand it perfectly well, but even for me, I
>>> >>still 'feel' certain imperial measurements more. My height and weight in
>>> >>imperial,
>>>
>>> >my weight is UK stones, when I hear x lbs it means nothing without a
>>> >mental calculation.
>>>
>>> My weight is easy in kgs - 100.
>>>
>>> (who's a big boy then?)
>>
>>Fat bastard :-)
>
>It's all in my mind!

Fat head :-)
--

Martin

On Thu, 10 May 2007 13:51:25 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:21:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:54:33 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > There's
>> >> >surely no more relevance to us of a mile than a kilometer, even a pound
>> >> >to a kilogramme?
>> >>
>> >> I find a pound much nearer to what I'm likely to buy, seafood in Ks
>> >> looks absurdly expensive and how often do you want a kilo?
>> >
>> >half a kilo isn't a problem, but it depends what you're buying. I don't
>> >think much about weight when I'm buying seafood anyway- I'll say, one of
>> >those, a dozen of those and so on.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >> The metric system is of a scientific basis. It gives the great
>> >> >> advantage of easy to use subdivisions which you certainly don't get in
>> >> >> imperial! But you do get a name for a glass of beer about the size you
>> >> >> want
>> >> >
>> >> >Not sure about that. I can easily deal with a half or quarter litre of
>> >> >beer.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, but i'm contrasting the key quantity and its relevance (of course
>> >> we can cope). I have drunk a litre glass of beer, but its hardly
>> >> convenient!
>> >
>> >But a half-litre isn't any more difficult to order than a half pint!
>>
>> Don't you mean a quarter of a litre?
>
>No- just pointing out that people use half measurements if the
>'convenient' one isn't right for them.

No half measures in this group.
--

Martin

On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:18:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 09 May 2007 20:28:22 -0700, VainGlorious
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >This aversion to full immersion was partly because older Americans
>> >displayed an inability to grasp metric
>>
>> same anywhere. I have no idea how tall I am in metric.
>
>I don't think it's about ability. I was brought up with the metric
>system at school.

Most in UK have been taught metric at school for more than 50 years.

>I understand it perfectly well, but even for me, I
>still 'feel' certain imperial measurements more. My height and weight in
>imperial, because that's all I've consdered it in- similarly, while I
>know what a kilometer is, I find it easier to visualise miles, not least
>because as a child, I knew well the distance in miles for walking
>between different villages. If I lived in a country where km were used
>exclusively, I'd probably get used to thinking that way without much
>difficulty.

I still find it odd giving vehicle fuel consumption as litres/100 kilometre
almost as odd as specifying miles/gallon in countries which use miles and litres
as standard units :-)
--

Martin