Paris, 33?C on Monday
Jun 22nd 2005, 4:37 am
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Re: Paris, 33°C on Monday
Hatunen writes:
> 20C is summer. 15C is winter.
20° C is indoors at rest; 15° C is active indoors or outdoors. These
temperatures can be lower if humidity is high (or slightly higher if it
is low, but in most locations it is never low).
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> 20C is summer. 15C is winter.
20° C is indoors at rest; 15° C is active indoors or outdoors. These
temperatures can be lower if humidity is high (or slightly higher if it
is low, but in most locations it is never low).
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Jun 22nd 2005, 5:57 am
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poldy writes:
> Well this year has been pretty cold. Temperatures have been below
> normal and last week, it rained.
Where?
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> Well this year has been pretty cold. Temperatures have been below
> normal and last week, it rained.
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Jun 22nd 2005, 6:16 am
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On 21/06/05 23:43, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Of course, somtimes the morning fog meets the evening fog. But a
>> 20 km drive south or east across the Bay Bridge will do away with
>> fog entirely. In fact, 50 km east will put you in bright sunlight
>> at temps of over 40C while 30 km south will put you in bright
>> sunlight at about 20C (I used to work in Palo Alto).
>
> I prefer the latter, although 15° C would be better still.
We live in Los Gatos, which is tucked away in the southwest corner of
Silicon Valley, just before one takes highway 17 over to Santa Cruz.
That was a long time ago but we just to drive to SF for dinner, a
good hour on the freeway from the San Jose area. In the summer one
had to dress for two weathers, since it would be 100°F in our part
of the Bay area and below 70 up in SF.
The Bay area has various climates of choice if people had a choice.
Actually I was on the faculty at UC Santa Cruz but having formerly
been at IBM research we did not sell our home in Los Gatos when
I worked there. We had spent an interim year in France (which eventually
led us here permanently) but I commuted to the campus over highway 17, a
deadly road which had a high death rate. Santa Cruz was also the closest
beach area to the Santa Clara Valley so in summer weekends the road was
traffic jammed. However, it was no use getting to the beach too early, the
summer fog would not burn off (if it did) until around noon. And the ocean
water was cold in any case, only for the young.
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Of course, somtimes the morning fog meets the evening fog. But a
>> 20 km drive south or east across the Bay Bridge will do away with
>> fog entirely. In fact, 50 km east will put you in bright sunlight
>> at temps of over 40C while 30 km south will put you in bright
>> sunlight at about 20C (I used to work in Palo Alto).
>
> I prefer the latter, although 15° C would be better still.
We live in Los Gatos, which is tucked away in the southwest corner of
Silicon Valley, just before one takes highway 17 over to Santa Cruz.
That was a long time ago but we just to drive to SF for dinner, a
good hour on the freeway from the San Jose area. In the summer one
had to dress for two weathers, since it would be 100°F in our part
of the Bay area and below 70 up in SF.
The Bay area has various climates of choice if people had a choice.
Actually I was on the faculty at UC Santa Cruz but having formerly
been at IBM research we did not sell our home in Los Gatos when
I worked there. We had spent an interim year in France (which eventually
led us here permanently) but I commuted to the campus over highway 17, a
deadly road which had a high death rate. Santa Cruz was also the closest
beach area to the Santa Clara Valley so in summer weekends the road was
traffic jammed. However, it was no use getting to the beach too early, the
summer fog would not burn off (if it did) until around noon. And the ocean
water was cold in any case, only for the young.
Earl
Jun 22nd 2005, 6:19 am
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Re: Paris, 33?C on Monday
On 21/06/05 23:50, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> Today it cooled off somewhat, Maxi was off a bit.
>
> No, I actually measured the temperatures in the Métro and on the street.
You must be obsessed, do you carry your own thermometer?
>
> Today we had hotter weather than San Diego.
Today will be 32, hotter than Marseilles!
>> Anyway, Paris is projected for lower temperatures by this weekend.
>
> "Lower" still meaning fifteen degrees Celsius above normal.
Mid 20s.
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> Today it cooled off somewhat, Maxi was off a bit.
>
> No, I actually measured the temperatures in the Métro and on the street.
You must be obsessed, do you carry your own thermometer?
>
> Today we had hotter weather than San Diego.
Today will be 32, hotter than Marseilles!
>> Anyway, Paris is projected for lower temperatures by this weekend.
>
> "Lower" still meaning fifteen degrees Celsius above normal.
Mid 20s.
Earl
Jun 22nd 2005, 6:26 am
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Re: Paris, 33?C on Monday
On 22/06/05 5:35, in article U%[email protected],
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The SF Peninsula (upon which I happen to live) has some of the nicest
> weather anywhere. It's rarely very hot, and when it is, it's almost never
> hot for more than 3 days. Typically it's 3 hot days and then the fog moves
> back in. Very predictable, very nice.
>
> And yes, it *is* beautiful when the fog rolls over the coastal hills. We're
> (I live in Redwood City, about 25 miles south of San Francisco) separated
> from the coast by about 25 miles/40k, and hills about 2000ft/700m high. I
> can look out my kitchen window and see places that vary in temperature
> between 16 & 33C. If you want it cooler, or warmer, it's a very short drive
> or bicycle ride.
I think it was Redwood City which has a sign over El Camino Real
("weather best by Government test") or something like that.
>
> If only it weren't so darned expensive to live here!
I think the Bay area has the highest median home prices in the country,
probably around $500,000 to $600,000, and higher in your area.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Paris is going over to bikes more and more. Our local bike shop has
three wheel Danish bikes for sale which are used for deliveries, and
there is a new service in the city of bike deliveries.
A major desire by the citizenry is to have a non-car city. I notice
on the rue de Rivoli a couple of times that since they put in
special bus lanes, making driving you car more difficult, the
car traffic has declined and the stree it nearly empty at times!
Earl
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The SF Peninsula (upon which I happen to live) has some of the nicest
> weather anywhere. It's rarely very hot, and when it is, it's almost never
> hot for more than 3 days. Typically it's 3 hot days and then the fog moves
> back in. Very predictable, very nice.
>
> And yes, it *is* beautiful when the fog rolls over the coastal hills. We're
> (I live in Redwood City, about 25 miles south of San Francisco) separated
> from the coast by about 25 miles/40k, and hills about 2000ft/700m high. I
> can look out my kitchen window and see places that vary in temperature
> between 16 & 33C. If you want it cooler, or warmer, it's a very short drive
> or bicycle ride.
I think it was Redwood City which has a sign over El Camino Real
("weather best by Government test") or something like that.
>
> If only it weren't so darned expensive to live here!
I think the Bay area has the highest median home prices in the country,
probably around $500,000 to $600,000, and higher in your area.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Paris is going over to bikes more and more. Our local bike shop has
three wheel Danish bikes for sale which are used for deliveries, and
there is a new service in the city of bike deliveries.
A major desire by the citizenry is to have a non-car city. I notice
on the rue de Rivoli a couple of times that since they put in
special bus lanes, making driving you car more difficult, the
car traffic has declined and the stree it nearly empty at times!
Earl
Jun 22nd 2005, 6:32 am
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Re: Paris, 33?C on Monday
On 22/06/05 6:20, in article
[email protected], "poldy"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <BEDC3518.6C224%[email protected]>,
> Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The only change in this last 200 years is that global warming is
>> making Northern California a happy hunting ground for the great
>> white shark.
>
> Well this year has been pretty cold. Temperatures have been below
> normal and last week, it rained.
>
> Last year was warm though, following a mild winter.
The web site http://www.sfbayadventures.com/great_white_shark.html
gives a picture of a great white feeding on a seal of the Farallon Islands.
As I seem to remember sharks don't really like humans, they prefer
fat seals. However, given the problem with over consumption of
Big Macs in the US, they might mistake a chunky swimmer for a fat
seal.
[email protected], "poldy"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <BEDC3518.6C224%[email protected]>,
> Earl Evleth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The only change in this last 200 years is that global warming is
>> making Northern California a happy hunting ground for the great
>> white shark.
>
> Well this year has been pretty cold. Temperatures have been below
> normal and last week, it rained.
>
> Last year was warm though, following a mild winter.
The web site http://www.sfbayadventures.com/great_white_shark.html
gives a picture of a great white feeding on a seal of the Farallon Islands.
As I seem to remember sharks don't really like humans, they prefer
fat seals. However, given the problem with over consumption of
Big Macs in the US, they might mistake a chunky swimmer for a fat
seal.
Jun 22nd 2005, 6:35 am
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Re: Paris, 33?C on Monday
On 22/06/05 7:57, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well this year has been pretty cold. Temperatures have been below
>> normal and last week, it rained.
>
> Where?
California is now getting some of the summer rains that Arizona used to get.
A shift in rain fall patterns on the West Coast has occurred via global
warming.
France is suffering from the reverse effect, droughts due to rain fall
pattern changes. All this was anticipated but Bush and his
anti-global warming thugs are not listening. His buddies are into
selling fossil fuels.
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well this year has been pretty cold. Temperatures have been below
>> normal and last week, it rained.
>
> Where?
California is now getting some of the summer rains that Arizona used to get.
A shift in rain fall patterns on the West Coast has occurred via global
warming.
France is suffering from the reverse effect, droughts due to rain fall
pattern changes. All this was anticipated but Bush and his
anti-global warming thugs are not listening. His buddies are into
selling fossil fuels.
Jun 22nd 2005, 3:44 pm
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Re: Paris, 33?C on Monday
Earl Evleth wrote:
> On 22/06/05 5:35, in article U%[email protected],
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The SF Peninsula (upon which I happen to live) has some of the nicest
>>weather anywhere. It's rarely very hot, and when it is, it's almost never
>>hot for more than 3 days. Typically it's 3 hot days and then the fog moves
>>back in. Very predictable, very nice.
>>And yes, it *is* beautiful when the fog rolls over the coastal hills. We're
>>(I live in Redwood City, about 25 miles south of San Francisco) separated
>>from the coast by about 25 miles/40k, and hills about 2000ft/700m high. I
>>can look out my kitchen window and see places that vary in temperature
>>between 16 & 33C. If you want it cooler, or warmer, it's a very short drive
>>or bicycle ride.
>
>
> I think it was Redwood City which has a sign over El Camino Real
> ("weather best by Government test") or something like that.
>
>>If only it weren't so darned expensive to live here!
>
>
> I think the Bay area has the highest median home prices in the country,
> probably around $500,000 to $600,000, and higher in your area.
>
>>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>>www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>
> Paris is going over to bikes more and more. Our local bike shop has
> three wheel Danish bikes for sale which are used for deliveries, and
> there is a new service in the city of bike deliveries.
>
> A major desire by the citizenry is to have a non-car city. I notice
> on the rue de Rivoli a couple of times that since they put in
> special bus lanes, making driving you car more difficult, the
> car traffic has declined and the stree it nearly empty at times!
>
> Earl
>
It may be a desire but last year I saw far more cars than bikes.
> On 22/06/05 5:35, in article U%[email protected],
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The SF Peninsula (upon which I happen to live) has some of the nicest
>>weather anywhere. It's rarely very hot, and when it is, it's almost never
>>hot for more than 3 days. Typically it's 3 hot days and then the fog moves
>>back in. Very predictable, very nice.
>>And yes, it *is* beautiful when the fog rolls over the coastal hills. We're
>>(I live in Redwood City, about 25 miles south of San Francisco) separated
>>from the coast by about 25 miles/40k, and hills about 2000ft/700m high. I
>>can look out my kitchen window and see places that vary in temperature
>>between 16 & 33C. If you want it cooler, or warmer, it's a very short drive
>>or bicycle ride.
>
>
> I think it was Redwood City which has a sign over El Camino Real
> ("weather best by Government test") or something like that.
>
>>If only it weren't so darned expensive to live here!
>
>
> I think the Bay area has the highest median home prices in the country,
> probably around $500,000 to $600,000, and higher in your area.
>
>>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>>www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>
> Paris is going over to bikes more and more. Our local bike shop has
> three wheel Danish bikes for sale which are used for deliveries, and
> there is a new service in the city of bike deliveries.
>
> A major desire by the citizenry is to have a non-car city. I notice
> on the rue de Rivoli a couple of times that since they put in
> special bus lanes, making driving you car more difficult, the
> car traffic has declined and the stree it nearly empty at times!
>
> Earl
>
It may be a desire but last year I saw far more cars than bikes.
Jun 22nd 2005, 6:08 pm
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Earl Evleth writes:
> California is now getting some of the summer rains that Arizona used to get.
All 0.004 inches annually?
> France is suffering from the reverse effect, droughts due to rain fall
> pattern changes.
Droughts in summer, but heavier rain in winter.
> All this was anticipated but Bush and his anti-global warming thugs
> are not listening. His buddies are into selling fossil fuels.
Even if he had listened, the effects would still be with us. In the
future China and India will be the major sources of greenhouse gases.
Unfortunately, whatever the source, the worldwide effects are the same.
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> California is now getting some of the summer rains that Arizona used to get.
All 0.004 inches annually?
> France is suffering from the reverse effect, droughts due to rain fall
> pattern changes.
Droughts in summer, but heavier rain in winter.
> All this was anticipated but Bush and his anti-global warming thugs
> are not listening. His buddies are into selling fossil fuels.
Even if he had listened, the effects would still be with us. In the
future China and India will be the major sources of greenhouse gases.
Unfortunately, whatever the source, the worldwide effects are the same.
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Jun 22nd 2005, 6:11 pm
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Earl Evleth writes:
> As I seem to remember sharks don't really like humans, they prefer
> fat seals.
Many sharks will bite just once in an attack on a human being, and then
break off. The reasons for this are not known. Perhaps they don't like
the taste, or perhaps there isn't enough flesh to please them (lots of
bones might break their teeth), or whatever.
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> As I seem to remember sharks don't really like humans, they prefer
> fat seals.
Many sharks will bite just once in an attack on a human being, and then
break off. The reasons for this are not known. Perhaps they don't like
the taste, or perhaps there isn't enough flesh to please them (lots of
bones might break their teeth), or whatever.
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Jun 22nd 2005, 6:13 pm
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Earl Evleth writes:
> You must be obsessed, do you carry your own thermometer?
Yes. It was 34.1 degrees in the Métro today, and 33° on the street.
> Today will be 32, hotter than Marseilles!
Tomorrow the _official_ high is expected to be 34° C, and it will be
much hotter in reality.
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> You must be obsessed, do you carry your own thermometer?
Yes. It was 34.1 degrees in the Métro today, and 33° on the street.
> Today will be 32, hotter than Marseilles!
Tomorrow the _official_ high is expected to be 34° C, and it will be
much hotter in reality.
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Jun 22nd 2005, 7:43 pm
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On 22/06/05 20:08, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> California is now getting some of the summer rains that Arizona used to get.
>
> All 0.004 inches annually?
`
California or Arizona?? Neither
"Downtown Los Angeles... 37.25" (2nd wettest rainy season on record since
1877)
As for drought, see http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html
>> All this was anticipated but Bush and his anti-global warming thugs
>> are not listening. His buddies are into selling fossil fuels.
>
> Even if he had listened, the effects would still be with us. In the
> future China and India will be the major sources of greenhouse gases.
> Unfortunately, whatever the source, the worldwide effects are the same.
Will be, the US is now.
Earl
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> California is now getting some of the summer rains that Arizona used to get.
>
> All 0.004 inches annually?
`
California or Arizona?? Neither
"Downtown Los Angeles... 37.25" (2nd wettest rainy season on record since
1877)
As for drought, see http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html
>> All this was anticipated but Bush and his anti-global warming thugs
>> are not listening. His buddies are into selling fossil fuels.
>
> Even if he had listened, the effects would still be with us. In the
> future China and India will be the major sources of greenhouse gases.
> Unfortunately, whatever the source, the worldwide effects are the same.
Will be, the US is now.
Earl
Jun 22nd 2005, 7:47 pm
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Re: Paris, 33?C on Monday
On 22/06/05 20:11, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> As I seem to remember sharks don't really like humans, they prefer
>> fat seals.
>
> Many sharks will bite just once in an attack on a human being, and then
> break off. The reasons for this are not known. Perhaps they don't like
> the taste, or perhaps there isn't enough flesh to please them (lots of
> bones might break their teeth), or whatever.
They have a great dental system and constantly replace their teeth. Rumors
had it at one time that Sharks don't get cancer but I think that is
disproven. They have a long evolutionary history like cockroaches and
redwood trees of not changing much. We are still in the development stage.
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Earl Evleth writes:
>
>> As I seem to remember sharks don't really like humans, they prefer
>> fat seals.
>
> Many sharks will bite just once in an attack on a human being, and then
> break off. The reasons for this are not known. Perhaps they don't like
> the taste, or perhaps there isn't enough flesh to please them (lots of
> bones might break their teeth), or whatever.
They have a great dental system and constantly replace their teeth. Rumors
had it at one time that Sharks don't get cancer but I think that is
disproven. They have a long evolutionary history like cockroaches and
redwood trees of not changing much. We are still in the development stage.
Jun 22nd 2005, 9:39 pm
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Hatunen wrote:
> It appears the sharks do mistake surfers paddling out on boards
> for seals. Ragged arches chomped out surfboards are something of
> a news staple in Santa Cruz, California.
> Some years back a swimmer at China Beach in San Francisco was
> killed by a great white.
I was reading an article about sharks in a magazine yesterday. It seems there
is a set of islands just off the coast near San Francisco that used to be a
popular spot for collect gull eggs. It is not protected and swarming with sea
birds and seals. Some well meaning people nursed two seal lions back to health
and thought the islands would be a perfect place to release them. Unfortunately,
it is also a gathering spot for Great White Sharks during their mating season in
the fall. The first seal was released and lasted 30 seconds before a 15 foot
shark snapped him in half.
> It appears the sharks do mistake surfers paddling out on boards
> for seals. Ragged arches chomped out surfboards are something of
> a news staple in Santa Cruz, California.
> Some years back a swimmer at China Beach in San Francisco was
> killed by a great white.
I was reading an article about sharks in a magazine yesterday. It seems there
is a set of islands just off the coast near San Francisco that used to be a
popular spot for collect gull eggs. It is not protected and swarming with sea
birds and seals. Some well meaning people nursed two seal lions back to health
and thought the islands would be a perfect place to release them. Unfortunately,
it is also a gathering spot for Great White Sharks during their mating season in
the fall. The first seal was released and lasted 30 seconds before a 15 foot
shark snapped him in half.
Jun 22nd 2005, 10:00 pm
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Re: Paris, 33°C on Monday
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:37:31 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hatunen writes:
>> 20C is summer. 15C is winter.
>20° C is indoors at rest; 15° C is active indoors or outdoors. These
>temperatures can be lower if humidity is high (or slightly higher if it
>is low, but in most locations it is never low).
You seem to be confused. The subject was San Francisco and Palo
Alto. I said:
>> Of course, somtimes the morning fog meets the evening fog. But a
>> 20 km drive south or east across the Bay Bridge will do away with
>> fog entirely. In fact, 50 km east will put you in bright sunlight
>> at temps of over 40C while 30 km south will put you in bright
>> sunlight at about 20C (I used to work in Palo Alto).
You said:
>I prefer the latter, although 15° C would be better still.
And I said:
"20C is summer. 15C is winter."
The outdoor temps in Palo Alto.
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wrote:
>Hatunen writes:
>> 20C is summer. 15C is winter.
>20° C is indoors at rest; 15° C is active indoors or outdoors. These
>temperatures can be lower if humidity is high (or slightly higher if it
>is low, but in most locations it is never low).
You seem to be confused. The subject was San Francisco and Palo
Alto. I said:
>> Of course, somtimes the morning fog meets the evening fog. But a
>> 20 km drive south or east across the Bay Bridge will do away with
>> fog entirely. In fact, 50 km east will put you in bright sunlight
>> at temps of over 40C while 30 km south will put you in bright
>> sunlight at about 20C (I used to work in Palo Alto).
You said:
>I prefer the latter, although 15° C would be better still.
And I said:
"20C is summer. 15C is winter."
The outdoor temps in Palo Alto.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *