On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:24:39 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:52:09 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:33:51 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> >> >> I thought the FO funded BBC World.
>> >> >
>> >> >Nah- the World Service.
>> >>
>> >> The World Service is funded by the FO.
>> >
>> >That's what I meant! BBC World is sort-of commercial.
>>
>> We have BBC World on the cable. There is no way I would pay for it.
>
>You do in a way- they have advertising or the cable company is paying
>them something.

Whether I want them or not, I also get a load of sex channels each of which
advertises subscriptions to British viewers, that cost more than I pay for the
80 or so channels I get on the cable.
Whatever BBC World costs me it isn't a lot :-)

>If the cable company is paying, you get this weird thing
>where you get these breaks with no commercials!

I don't watch it enough to know whether there are commercial breaks or not.
If they are they cannot be as frequent or as long as the commercial breaks on
Dutch RTL TV, where if I scan through the channels the odds are that they will
all be showing an adverts.

>
>> If the FO isn't running & paying it somebody in the BBC needs shooting.
>
>It's just a lame re-run of a few clips from News 24, from what I've
>seen!

We don't have News 24, we do have BBC Prime, BBC World and BBC1,2,3,4 and 2
channels of cBBC, when 3 and 4 are off the air.
--

Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:24:39 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
[]
> >If the cable company is paying, you get this weird thing
> >where you get these breaks with no commercials!
>
> I don't watch it enough to know whether there are commercial breaks or not.
> If they are they cannot be as frequent or as long as the commercial breaks on
> Dutch RTL TV, where if I scan through the channels the odds are that they will
> all be showing an adverts.

Do you have a HD recorder? If not, you might like one. I usually start
watching a programme I want to watch on a commercial channel 5-15
minutes after it started. I just fast forward through the commercials!
Of course, you can do that just by recording a programme, but I find
this method more flexible.

> >
> >> If the FO isn't running & paying it somebody in the BBC needs shooting.
> >
> >It's just a lame re-run of a few clips from News 24, from what I've
> >seen!
>
> We don't have News 24, we do have BBC Prime, BBC World and BBC1,2,3,4 and 2
> channels of cBBC, when 3 and 4 are off the air.

News 24 is probably considered too 'provincial' which is probably true-
but it's not terrible. In any case, you can watch it live online.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:47:20 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:24:39 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>[]
>> >If the cable company is paying, you get this weird thing
>> >where you get these breaks with no commercials!
>>
>> I don't watch it enough to know whether there are commercial breaks or not.
>> If they are they cannot be as frequent or as long as the commercial breaks on
>> Dutch RTL TV, where if I scan through the channels the odds are that they will
>> all be showing an adverts.
>
>Do you have a HD recorder?

No but we have two broken VCRs and one that may or may not be working in the
house.

> If not, you might like one. I usually start
>watching a programme I want to watch on a commercial channel 5-15
>minutes after it started. I just fast forward through the commercials!
>Of course, you can do that just by recording a programme, but I find
>this method more flexible.

Everything is repeated so often and so frequently, we can't be bothered
recording stuff anymore.

>
>> >
>> >> If the FO isn't running & paying it somebody in the BBC needs shooting.
>> >
>> >It's just a lame re-run of a few clips from News 24, from what I've
>> >seen!
>>
>> We don't have News 24, we do have BBC Prime, BBC World and BBC1,2,3,4 and 2
>> channels of cBBC, when 3 and 4 are off the air.
>
>News 24 is probably considered too 'provincial' which is probably true-
>but it's not terrible. In any case, you can watch it live online.

I think it costs the cable companies more than BBC World.
--

Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:47:20 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:24:39 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >[]
> >> >If the cable company is paying, you get this weird thing
> >> >where you get these breaks with no commercials!
> >>
> >> I don't watch it enough to know whether there are commercial breaks or
> >> not. If they are they cannot be as frequent or as long as the
> >> commercial breaks on Dutch RTL TV, where if I scan through the channels
> >> the odds are that they will all be showing an adverts.
> >
> >Do you have a HD recorder?
>
> No but we have two broken VCRs and one that may or may not be working in the
> house.

We've got one working one, but haven't used it for _anything_ for a few
years. We should really throw it out, but I haven't got round to
converting all the videos yet!

> > If not, you might like one. I usually start
> >watching a programme I want to watch on a commercial channel 5-15
> >minutes after it started. I just fast forward through the commercials!
> >Of course, you can do that just by recording a programme, but I find
> >this method more flexible.
>
> Everything is repeated so often and so frequently, we can't be bothered
> recording stuff anymore.

You still might like it though. For a start, you can decide when there's
a "break" in the programme, if you feel like doing something else. Do
you pay for cable btw?

[]
> >> We don't have News 24, we do have BBC Prime, BBC World and BBC1,2,3,4 and 2
> >> channels of cBBC, when 3 and 4 are off the air.
> >
> >News 24 is probably considered too 'provincial' which is probably true-
> >but it's not terrible. In any case, you can watch it live online.
>
> I think it costs the cable companies more than BBC World.

That too- but surely they wouldn't be interested? It's very UK- centred,
albeit with the occasional half hour of world news...

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:55:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:47:20 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:24:39 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >If the cable company is paying, you get this weird thing
>> >> >where you get these breaks with no commercials!
>> >>
>> >> I don't watch it enough to know whether there are commercial breaks or
>> >> not. If they are they cannot be as frequent or as long as the
>> >> commercial breaks on Dutch RTL TV, where if I scan through the channels
>> >> the odds are that they will all be showing an adverts.
>> >
>> >Do you have a HD recorder?
>>
>> No but we have two broken VCRs and one that may or may not be working in the
>> house.
>
>We've got one working one, but haven't used it for _anything_ for a few
>years. We should really throw it out, but I haven't got round to
>converting all the videos yet!
>
>> > If not, you might like one. I usually start
>> >watching a programme I want to watch on a commercial channel 5-15
>> >minutes after it started. I just fast forward through the commercials!
>> >Of course, you can do that just by recording a programme, but I find
>> >this method more flexible.
>>
>> Everything is repeated so often and so frequently, we can't be bothered
>> recording stuff anymore.
>
>You still might like it though. For a start, you can decide when there's
>a "break" in the programme, if you feel like doing something else. Do
>you pay for cable btw?

Only after the first 17 years when we had it free. My wife confessed during an
amnesty.

>
>[]
>> >> We don't have News 24, we do have BBC Prime, BBC World and BBC1,2,3,4 and 2
>> >> channels of cBBC, when 3 and 4 are off the air.
>> >
>> >News 24 is probably considered too 'provincial' which is probably true-
>> >but it's not terrible. In any case, you can watch it live online.
>>
>> I think it costs the cable companies more than BBC World.
>
>That too- but surely they wouldn't be interested? It's very UK- centred,
>albeit with the occasional half hour of world news...

In a survey under 5% said they ever watched a foreign channel.

--

Martin

Martin, 29/07/2007 wrote:

> On 29 Jul 2007 18:27:07 GMT, "user" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> user wrote:
> >>
> >> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > David Horne wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to
> >> > > > it!
> >> > >
> >> > > That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I
> bacame a >> > > full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a
> "holiday >> > > read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in
> front of a >> > > computer screen, American TV sucks, and I need
> something to >> > > occupy my time (especially with the average
> outdoor temperature >> > > hovering between 100F and 110F in
> Arizona). Fortunately I've >> > > discovered the local Goodwill
> store (similar to your Oxfam, I >> > > think), where I can buy used
> paperbacks for about $1 each. >> >
> >> >
> >> > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
> >> > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
> >> > everyday.
> >>
> >> When I tried I got an error message, and only written material
> when I >> clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may
> requre >> software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the
> internet >> - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses
> between segments >> (probably because I have dial-up internet
> access).
> >
> > That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
> > probably correct re your dial-up access.
>
> You are both wrong. You gave her a URL containing an upper case R.
> The BBC website is case sensitive.


Oops, sorry, Evelyn and smarty pants Martin. :-)
--

Clooty

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> We have BBC World on the cable. There is no way I would pay for it.
> If the FO isn't running & paying it somebody in the BBC needs shooting.

'BBC World' varies depending on where you are, but it's still crap wherever
you are.

Now 'BBC News 24'...

Seems to be unobtainable outside the UK...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:56:08 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>
>> We have BBC World on the cable. There is no way I would pay for it.
>> If the FO isn't running & paying it somebody in the BBC needs shooting.
>
>'BBC World' varies depending on where you are, but it's still crap wherever
>you are.

I recall that in Turkey it was targeted at Asia.

>
>Now 'BBC News 24'...
>
>Seems to be unobtainable outside the UK...

Maybe it isn't available by satellite.
I thought it was available by cable in some parts of NL.
--

Martin

On 30 Jul 2007 15:16:00 GMT, "user" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> You are both wrong. You gave her a URL containing an upper case R.
>> The BBC website is case sensitive.
>
>
>Oops, sorry, Evelyn and smarty pants Martin. :-)

:-)
--

Martin

Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:18:34 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4
>
>
> Did you try www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 - all lower case, Evelyn?

Yes, I found the web-site, but I experience the same
interminable delays I do when trying to watch video on my
computer. Long pauses between nearly every word and the
next render most sentences incomprehensible. (I'm sure the
problem is due to my dial-up connection - especially here in
Arizona, where instead of the 56k I got in California, none
of Earthlink's access numbers provide more than 26.4k!)

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:06:55 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>Martin wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:18:34 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4
>>
>>
>> Did you try www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 - all lower case, Evelyn?
>
>Yes, I found the web-site, but I experience the same
>interminable delays I do when trying to watch video on my
>computer. Long pauses between nearly every word and the
>next render most sentences incomprehensible. (I'm sure the
>problem is due to my dial-up connection - especially here in
>Arizona, where instead of the 56k I got in California, none
>of Earthlink's access numbers provide more than 26.4k!)

BBC sound runs at 44Kbps on my PC.

Can you get ADSL/broadband or at least ISDN?
--

Martin

martin pollutes with vogt granny the US OT specialist
Now waiting for morrow to butt in


"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:06:55 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Martin wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:18:34 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you try www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 - all lower case, Evelyn?
>>
>>Yes, I found the web-site, but I experience the same
>>interminable delays I do when trying to watch video on my
>>computer. Long pauses between nearly every word and the
>>next render most sentences incomprehensible. (I'm sure the
>>problem is due to my dial-up connection - especially here in
>>Arizona, where instead of the 56k I got in California, none
>>of Earthlink's access numbers provide more than 26.4k!)
>
> BBC sound runs at 44Kbps on my PC.
>
> Can you get ADSL/broadband or at least ISDN?
> --
>
> Martin
>

Runge3 wrote:

> martin pollutes with vogt granny the US OT specialist
> Now waiting for morrow to butt in


Lovely weather here in Chicago, scRunge, but the nice full moon we are
seeing in the sky at night is I believe a different one from the one
you gaze at...

--
Best
Greg



> "Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message denews:[email protected]. ..
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:06:55 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Martin wrote:
>
> >>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:18:34 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4
>
> >>> Did you trywww.bbc.co.uk/radio4- all lower case, Evelyn?
>
> >>Yes, I found the web-site, but I experience the same
> >>interminable delays I do when trying to watch video on my
> >>computer. Long pauses between nearly every word and the
> >>next render most sentences incomprehensible. (I'm sure the
> >>problem is due to my dial-up connection - especially here in
> >>Arizona, where instead of the 56k I got in California, none
> >>of Earthlink's access numbers provide more than 26.4k!)
>
> > BBC sound runs at 44Kbps on my PC.
>
> > Can you get ADSL/broadband or at least ISDN?
> > --
>
> > Martin- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In article <[email protected]>,
Jack Campin - bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:

> Archer's books have all been mostly ghostwritten. He can barely
> string a written sentence together. But he was well enough
> embedded in the inner circle of Thatcher's corruption and sleaze
> that he probably had some actuality tips to pass on to the ghost.

Corruption and sleaze aren't things I've heard associated with Thatcher.

Can you elaborate a bit?

Following up to poldy <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Archer's books have all been mostly ghostwritten. He can barely
>> string a written sentence together. But he was well enough
>> embedded in the inner circle of Thatcher's corruption and sleaze
>> that he probably had some actuality tips to pass on to the ghost.
>
>Corruption and sleaze aren't things I've heard associated with Thatcher.

how did sonny boy Thatcher get rich from arms dealing?
--
Mike
(remove clothing to email)