OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
Jul 28th 2007 | 11:28 pm
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:26:14 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
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>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:51:07 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>Archer's books have all been mostly ghostwritten.
>>
>> Sounds in keeping, but is it really true?
>>
>Doubtful.
>
>Even Private Eye accepts that he writes them himself.
because they are scared of losing a libel action?
--
Martin
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:51:07 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>Archer's books have all been mostly ghostwritten.
>>
>> Sounds in keeping, but is it really true?
>>
>Doubtful.
>
>Even Private Eye accepts that he writes them himself.
because they are scared of losing a libel action?
--
Martin
Jul 29th 2007 | 3:35 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:26:14 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:51:07 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>Archer's books have all been mostly ghostwritten.
>>>
>>> Sounds in keeping, but is it really true?
>>>
>>Doubtful.
>>
>>Even Private Eye accepts that he writes them himself.
>
> because they are scared of losing a libel action?
Against Archer!
What on earth could they possibly say.
They routinely call him a liar, perjurer, jail bird, thief, a client of
prostitutes, failed politician and the worst imaginable candidate for any
of the several public offices he's filled or attempted to fill over the
years.
All of which, by the way, are true...
I doubt a plagiarism accusation would make much difference.
Besides, I get the distinct impression that since his downfall Archer has
gained a sense of, if not humour, at least of his own absurdity.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:26:14 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:51:07 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>Archer's books have all been mostly ghostwritten.
>>>
>>> Sounds in keeping, but is it really true?
>>>
>>Doubtful.
>>
>>Even Private Eye accepts that he writes them himself.
>
> because they are scared of losing a libel action?
Against Archer!
What on earth could they possibly say.
They routinely call him a liar, perjurer, jail bird, thief, a client of
prostitutes, failed politician and the worst imaginable candidate for any
of the several public offices he's filled or attempted to fill over the
years.
All of which, by the way, are true...
I doubt a plagiarism accusation would make much difference.
Besides, I get the distinct impression that since his downfall Archer has
gained a sense of, if not humour, at least of his own absurdity.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Jul 29th 2007 | 3:40 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:35:53 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:
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>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:26:14 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:51:07 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Archer's books have all been mostly ghostwritten.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds in keeping, but is it really true?
>>>>
>>>Doubtful.
>>>
>>>Even Private Eye accepts that he writes them himself.
>>
>> because they are scared of losing a libel action?
>
>Against Archer!
>
>What on earth could they possibly say.
Whoosh!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Eye_(Recordings)
Record Damages
Issued - 11 December 1987
Peter Cook plays the judge at the Jeffrey Archer libel trial. SAS prepare their
shoot to kill policy. Sid Yobbo speaks (parody of Derek Jameson). Includes
appearances by John Sessions and Ian Hislop.
>
>They routinely call him a liar, perjurer, jail bird, thief, a client of
>prostitutes, failed politician and the worst imaginable candidate for any
>of the several public offices he's filled or attempted to fill over the
>years.
>
>All of which, by the way, are true...
>
>I doubt a plagiarism accusation would make much difference.
>
>Besides, I get the distinct impression that since his downfall Archer has
>gained a sense of, if not humour, at least of his own absurdity.
or is it just anything for a buck?
--
Martin
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:26:14 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:51:07 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Archer's books have all been mostly ghostwritten.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds in keeping, but is it really true?
>>>>
>>>Doubtful.
>>>
>>>Even Private Eye accepts that he writes them himself.
>>
>> because they are scared of losing a libel action?
>
>Against Archer!
>
>What on earth could they possibly say.
Whoosh!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Eye_(Recordings)
Record Damages
Issued - 11 December 1987
Peter Cook plays the judge at the Jeffrey Archer libel trial. SAS prepare their
shoot to kill policy. Sid Yobbo speaks (parody of Derek Jameson). Includes
appearances by John Sessions and Ian Hislop.
>
>They routinely call him a liar, perjurer, jail bird, thief, a client of
>prostitutes, failed politician and the worst imaginable candidate for any
>of the several public offices he's filled or attempted to fill over the
>years.
>
>All of which, by the way, are true...
>
>I doubt a plagiarism accusation would make much difference.
>
>Besides, I get the distinct impression that since his downfall Archer has
>gained a sense of, if not humour, at least of his own absurdity.
or is it just anything for a buck?
--
Martin
Jul 29th 2007 | 4:21 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>
>
> David Horne wrote:
>
> > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>
> That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
> full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday read"!
> There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a computer screen,
> American TV sucks, and I need something to occupy my time (especially
> with the average outdoor temperature hovering between 100F and 110F
> in Arizona). Fortunately I've discovered the local Goodwill store
> (similar to your Oxfam, I think), where I can buy used paperbacks for
> about $1 each.
Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you might
enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have everyday.
--
Clooty
>
>
> David Horne wrote:
>
> > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>
> That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
> full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday read"!
> There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a computer screen,
> American TV sucks, and I need something to occupy my time (especially
> with the average outdoor temperature hovering between 100F and 110F
> in Arizona). Fortunately I've discovered the local Goodwill store
> (similar to your Oxfam, I think), where I can buy used paperbacks for
> about $1 each.
Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you might
enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have everyday.
--
Clooty
Jul 29th 2007 | 5:09 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
Gregory Morrow wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>
>>David Horne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>>
>>That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I
>>bacame a full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for
>>a "holiday read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in
>>front of a computer screen, American TV sucks,
>
>
>
> Don't you at least get TCM (Turner Classic Movies) at your place? If you
> are a movie buff it's a godsend...I could easily spend whole days watching
> it if I had the time. In fact I'd gladly still spend the $80.00 per month
> for cable if it was the *only* channel I received...
Yes, and occasionally they show something I want to watch,
but I find black and white harder on my eyes than color. I
enjoy the various incarnations of "CSI" and "Law and Order"
on the various cable channels, but how many re-runs can one
watch without finding oneself mouthing the dialogue along
with the characters? (I watch American PBS, too, but the
daytime broadcasts are mostly kid's shows, Phoenix is not
New York, and much as I like the old BBC comedies, they seem
to re-run the same episodes over and over.) There are scads
of sports channels to watch, but I'd find a visit to the
dentist more amusing!
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>
>>David Horne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>>
>>That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I
>>bacame a full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for
>>a "holiday read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in
>>front of a computer screen, American TV sucks,
>
>
>
> Don't you at least get TCM (Turner Classic Movies) at your place? If you
> are a movie buff it's a godsend...I could easily spend whole days watching
> it if I had the time. In fact I'd gladly still spend the $80.00 per month
> for cable if it was the *only* channel I received...
Yes, and occasionally they show something I want to watch,
but I find black and white harder on my eyes than color. I
enjoy the various incarnations of "CSI" and "Law and Order"
on the various cable channels, but how many re-runs can one
watch without finding oneself mouthing the dialogue along
with the characters? (I watch American PBS, too, but the
daytime broadcasts are mostly kid's shows, Phoenix is not
New York, and much as I like the old BBC comedies, they seem
to re-run the same episodes over and over.) There are scads
of sports channels to watch, but I'd find a visit to the
dentist more amusing!
Jul 29th 2007 | 5:20 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
user wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>
>
>>
>>David Horne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>>
>>That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
>>full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday read"!
>>There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a computer screen,
>>American TV sucks, and I need something to occupy my time (especially
>>with the average outdoor temperature hovering between 100F and 110F
>>in Arizona). Fortunately I've discovered the local Goodwill store
>>(similar to your Oxfam, I think), where I can buy used paperbacks for
>>about $1 each.
>
>
> Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you might
> enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have everyday.
When I tried I got an error message, and only written
material when I clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I
think it may requre software I don't have. I know I cannot
watch video via the internet - if it plays at all, there are
interminable pauses between segments (probably because I
have dial-up internet access).
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>
>
>>
>>David Horne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>>
>>That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
>>full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday read"!
>>There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a computer screen,
>>American TV sucks, and I need something to occupy my time (especially
>>with the average outdoor temperature hovering between 100F and 110F
>>in Arizona). Fortunately I've discovered the local Goodwill store
>>(similar to your Oxfam, I think), where I can buy used paperbacks for
>>about $1 each.
>
>
> Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you might
> enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have everyday.
When I tried I got an error message, and only written
material when I clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I
think it may requre software I don't have. I know I cannot
watch video via the internet - if it plays at all, there are
interminable pauses between segments (probably because I
have dial-up internet access).
Jul 29th 2007 | 5:35 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:20:08 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>user wrote:
>
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>David Horne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>>>
>>>That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
>>>full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday read"!
>>>There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a computer screen,
>>>American TV sucks, and I need something to occupy my time (especially
>>>with the average outdoor temperature hovering between 100F and 110F
>>>in Arizona). Fortunately I've discovered the local Goodwill store
>>>(similar to your Oxfam, I think), where I can buy used paperbacks for
>>>about $1 each.
>>
>>
>> Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you might
>> enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have everyday.
>
>When I tried I got an error message, and only written
>material when I clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not.
I get an error message too
> I
>think it may requre software I don't have. I know I cannot
>watch video via the internet - if it plays at all, there are
>interminable pauses between segments (probably because I
>have dial-up internet access).
Try starting from here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/
The URL is case sensitive
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/
works
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>user wrote:
>
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>David Horne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>>>
>>>That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
>>>full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday read"!
>>>There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a computer screen,
>>>American TV sucks, and I need something to occupy my time (especially
>>>with the average outdoor temperature hovering between 100F and 110F
>>>in Arizona). Fortunately I've discovered the local Goodwill store
>>>(similar to your Oxfam, I think), where I can buy used paperbacks for
>>>about $1 each.
>>
>>
>> Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you might
>> enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have everyday.
>
>When I tried I got an error message, and only written
>material when I clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not.
I get an error message too
> I
>think it may requre software I don't have. I know I cannot
>watch video via the internet - if it plays at all, there are
>interminable pauses between segments (probably because I
>have dial-up internet access).
Try starting from here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/
The URL is case sensitive
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/
works
--
Martin
Jul 29th 2007 | 6:27 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>
>
> user wrote:
>
> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > David Horne wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to
> > > > it!
> > >
> > > That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
> > > full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday
> > > read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a
> > > computer screen, American TV sucks, and I need something to
> > > occupy my time (especially with the average outdoor temperature
> > > hovering between 100F and 110F in Arizona). Fortunately I've
> > > discovered the local Goodwill store (similar to your Oxfam, I
> > > think), where I can buy used paperbacks for about $1 each.
> >
> >
> > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
> > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
> > everyday.
>
> When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
> clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
> software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
> - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
> (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
probably correct re your dial-up access.
--
Clooty
>
>
> user wrote:
>
> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > David Horne wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to
> > > > it!
> > >
> > > That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
> > > full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday
> > > read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a
> > > computer screen, American TV sucks, and I need something to
> > > occupy my time (especially with the average outdoor temperature
> > > hovering between 100F and 110F in Arizona). Fortunately I've
> > > discovered the local Goodwill store (similar to your Oxfam, I
> > > think), where I can buy used paperbacks for about $1 each.
> >
> >
> > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
> > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
> > everyday.
>
> When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
> clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
> software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
> - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
> (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
probably correct re your dial-up access.
--
Clooty
Jul 29th 2007 | 7:04 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
user <[email protected]> wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > user wrote:
[]
> > > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
> > > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
> > > everyday.
> >
> > When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
> > clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
> > software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
> > - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
> > (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
>
> That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
> probably correct re your dial-up access.
BBC Radio works fine on dial-up- it even works fine on slower than 56k
services, such as the GPRS mobile connection I occasionally use. Even
their video (non-broadband version obviously) works fine on 56k- but not
so well on GPRS in my experience.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > user wrote:
[]
> > > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
> > > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
> > > everyday.
> >
> > When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
> > clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
> > software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
> > - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
> > (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
>
> That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
> probably correct re your dial-up access.
BBC Radio works fine on dial-up- it even works fine on slower than 56k
services, such as the GPRS mobile connection I occasionally use. Even
their video (non-broadband version obviously) works fine on 56k- but not
so well on GPRS in my experience.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 29th 2007 | 9:13 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:04:55 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>user <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > user wrote:
>[]
>> > > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
>> > > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
>> > > everyday.
>> >
>> > When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
>> > clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
>> > software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
>> > - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
>> > (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
>>
>> That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
>> probably correct re your dial-up access.
>
>BBC Radio works fine on dial-up- it even works fine on slower than 56k
>services, such as the GPRS mobile connection I occasionally use. Even
>their video (non-broadband version obviously) works fine on 56k- but not
>so well on GPRS in my experience.
Sound doesn't need much bandwidth. If it did a dial up telephone wouldn't work
:-)
--
Martin
>user <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > user wrote:
>[]
>> > > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
>> > > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
>> > > everyday.
>> >
>> > When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
>> > clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
>> > software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
>> > - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
>> > (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
>>
>> That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
>> probably correct re your dial-up access.
>
>BBC Radio works fine on dial-up- it even works fine on slower than 56k
>services, such as the GPRS mobile connection I occasionally use. Even
>their video (non-broadband version obviously) works fine on 56k- but not
>so well on GPRS in my experience.
Sound doesn't need much bandwidth. If it did a dial up telephone wouldn't work
:-)
--
Martin
Jul 29th 2007 | 9:17 am
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:04:55 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >user <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > user wrote:
> >[]
> >> > > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
> >> > > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
> >> > > everyday.
> >> >
> >> > When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
> >> > clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
> >> > software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
> >> > - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
> >> > (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
> >>
> >> That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
> >> probably correct re your dial-up access.
> >
> >BBC Radio works fine on dial-up- it even works fine on slower than 56k
> >services, such as the GPRS mobile connection I occasionally use. Even
> >their video (non-broadband version obviously) works fine on 56k- but not
> >so well on GPRS in my experience.
>
> Sound doesn't need much bandwidth. If it did a dial up telephone wouldn't work
> :-)
Good point, though I found GPRS wasn't good enough for skype!
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:04:55 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >user <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > user wrote:
> >[]
> >> > > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
> >> > > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
> >> > > everyday.
> >> >
> >> > When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
> >> > clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
> >> > software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
> >> > - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
> >> > (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
> >>
> >> That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
> >> probably correct re your dial-up access.
> >
> >BBC Radio works fine on dial-up- it even works fine on slower than 56k
> >services, such as the GPRS mobile connection I occasionally use. Even
> >their video (non-broadband version obviously) works fine on 56k- but not
> >so well on GPRS in my experience.
>
> Sound doesn't need much bandwidth. If it did a dial up telephone wouldn't work
> :-)
Good point, though I found GPRS wasn't good enough for skype!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Ex-Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 29th 2007 | 9:18 am
#27
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
On 29 Jul 2007 18:27:07 GMT, "user" <[email protected]> wrote:
>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> user wrote:
>>
>> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > David Horne wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to
>> > > > it!
>> > >
>> > > That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
>> > > full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday
>> > > read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a
>> > > computer screen, American TV sucks, and I need something to
>> > > occupy my time (especially with the average outdoor temperature
>> > > hovering between 100F and 110F in Arizona). Fortunately I've
>> > > discovered the local Goodwill store (similar to your Oxfam, I
>> > > think), where I can buy used paperbacks for about $1 each.
>> >
>> >
>> > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
>> > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
>> > everyday.
>>
>> When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
>> clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
>> software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
>> - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
>> (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
>
>That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
>probably correct re your dial-up access.
You are both wrong. You gave her a URL containing an upper case R.
The BBC website is case sensitive.
--
Martin
>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> user wrote:
>>
>> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque), 29/07/2007 wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > David Horne wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to
>> > > > it!
>> > >
>> > > That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I bacame a
>> > > full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for a "holiday
>> > > read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in front of a
>> > > computer screen, American TV sucks, and I need something to
>> > > occupy my time (especially with the average outdoor temperature
>> > > hovering between 100F and 110F in Arizona). Fortunately I've
>> > > discovered the local Goodwill store (similar to your Oxfam, I
>> > > think), where I can buy used paperbacks for about $1 each.
>> >
>> >
>> > Evelyn, can you get www.bbc.co.uk/Radio4 on your computer? you
>> > might enjoy some of the talk/quizz/plays/book readings they have
>> > everyday.
>>
>> When I tried I got an error message, and only written material when I
>> clicked "Search BBC", so apparently not. I think it may requre
>> software I don't have. I know I cannot watch video via the internet
>> - if it plays at all, there are interminable pauses between segments
>> (probably because I have dial-up internet access).
>
>That is a shame, as I think you would have enjoyed it. You are
>probably correct re your dial-up access.
You are both wrong. You gave her a URL containing an upper case R.
The BBC website is case sensitive.
--
Martin
Jul 29th 2007 | 10:08 am
#28
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel)
> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sound doesn't need much bandwidth. If it did a dial up telephone wouldn't
> work
> :-)
Broadcast sound, the horrible AM type, uses about four times the bandwidth
of speech telephony.
FM sound uses about eight times the bandwidth.
Ever listened to music down a phone line?
You can do some clever stuff with modern digital encoding systems and get
decent digital sound down a phone line, but you need a computer at both ends
to do the sums.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
> Sound doesn't need much bandwidth. If it did a dial up telephone wouldn't
> work
> :-)
Broadcast sound, the horrible AM type, uses about four times the bandwidth
of speech telephony.
FM sound uses about eight times the bandwidth.
Ever listened to music down a phone line?
You can do some clever stuff with modern digital encoding systems and get
decent digital sound down a phone line, but you need a computer at both ends
to do the sums.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Jul 29th 2007 | 10:19 am
#29
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Re: OT - UK Politics (Jeffrey Archer novel) YES OT AS USUAL FROM THIS DAME
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news:[email protected]...
> If anyone had told me I would find a novel about British politics utterly
> fascinating, I would have told them they were crazy! However, I recently
> picked up a second-hand copy of Archer's "First Among Equals", and am
> finding it hard to put down. But....
>
> As a USAian, I know next to nothing about the mechanics of UK politics,
> and the author blends actual historical characters in with his fictional
> ones so skillfully that I'm not sure what's real and what's fiction. The
> book was copyright in 1984, and the story line runs from 1964 through
> 1991, so obviously many of the events MUST be products of the author's
> imagination, but I'm not quite sure where fact ends and fiction begins, in
> his portrayal of events for the years that had already passed when the
> book was written.
>
> If any of our UK posters has read the book, could you perhaps enlighten
> me? (E-mail will be fine, if you don't want to clutter up the newsgroup
> with off-topic material.) Thanks.
>
> Evelyn
>
message de news:[email protected]...
> If anyone had told me I would find a novel about British politics utterly
> fascinating, I would have told them they were crazy! However, I recently
> picked up a second-hand copy of Archer's "First Among Equals", and am
> finding it hard to put down. But....
>
> As a USAian, I know next to nothing about the mechanics of UK politics,
> and the author blends actual historical characters in with his fictional
> ones so skillfully that I'm not sure what's real and what's fiction. The
> book was copyright in 1984, and the story line runs from 1964 through
> 1991, so obviously many of the events MUST be products of the author's
> imagination, but I'm not quite sure where fact ends and fiction begins, in
> his portrayal of events for the years that had already passed when the
> book was written.
>
> If any of our UK posters has read the book, could you perhaps enlighten
> me? (E-mail will be fine, if you don't want to clutter up the newsgroup
> with off-topic material.) Thanks.
>
> Evelyn
>
Jul 29th 2007 | 10:20 am
#30
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Re: MORROW THE MORON ENJOYS A NICE ot THREAD
"Gregory Morrow" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le
message de news:[email protected] ink.net...
>N §
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>> David Horne wrote:
>>
>> > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>>
>> That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I
>> bacame a full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for
>> a "holiday read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in
>> front of a computer screen, American TV sucks,
>
>
> Don't you at least get TCM (Turner Classic Movies) at your place? If you
> are a movie buff it's a godsend...I could easily spend whole days watching
> it if I had the time. In fact I'd gladly still spend the $80.00 per month
> for cable if it was the *only* channel I received...
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
> "I am smarter than you think I am"
> - Maryanne "Loafhead" Kehoe to me
> in alt.gossip.celebrities
>
>
message de news:[email protected] ink.net...
>N §
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>> David Horne wrote:
>>
>> > I'd read his books as a holiday read- just never got round to it!
>>
>> That's more or less what I'm doing - except that since I
>> bacame a full-time retiree, most EVERY day is available for
>> a "holiday read"! There's a limit to how long I can sit in
>> front of a computer screen, American TV sucks,
>
>
> Don't you at least get TCM (Turner Classic Movies) at your place? If you
> are a movie buff it's a godsend...I could easily spend whole days watching
> it if I had the time. In fact I'd gladly still spend the $80.00 per month
> for cable if it was the *only* channel I received...
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
>
> "I am smarter than you think I am"
> - Maryanne "Loafhead" Kehoe to me
> in alt.gossip.celebrities
>
>
