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> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:09:48 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>
> No much time to book your 'crematie' Martin!

On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin wrote:
> > in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>
> Only restaurants, not bars?
> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!


New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
hookah bars. I can't imagine Amsterdam wouldn't do the same for
cannabis cafes.

Make credence recognised that on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:05:44 -0700,
Hatunen <[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:13:31 +0100, [email protected] (David
>Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>>That's very interesting news, thanks! Any hope for Germany at some
>>point?
>>
>>The changeover here is going to be interesting. I was in quite a nice
>>pub in London last night near Warwick Road, and I'd say half of the
>>clientele were smoking, which wasn't pleasant, even with pretty good
>>ventilation.
>
>Because of the thick smoke my wife and I have pretty much avoided
>pubs in the UK. I once walked through one in Mayfair to find the
>loo and almost choked on the smoke. It felt like I should carry a
>machete to cut through the fog.

Almost choked? I think you are exaggerating quite a bit. It's smelly,
and a bit unpleasant, but it wont kill you for a trip to the loo.
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Make credence recognised that on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:10:01 -0700,
Hatunen <[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:33:06 +0200, Martin <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:19:29 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
>
>>>I do have to say that having given up smoking I now find an evening in a pub
>>>more trying than I used to and will be using them more when the ban comes
>>>in.
>>
>>I gave up smoking almost 37 years ago. About 20 years after I gave up I became
>>strongly allergic to cigarette smoke. Not something made up in my mind, but
>>diagnosed by the chest department of the local hospital.
>
>I was a three-pack -a-day smoker, but I gave up some twenty-odd
>years ago. But now, twenty years later, I have COPD.
>
>When I went quits, for a year or two the smell of cigarette smoke
>drifting by, especially, after a good restaurant meal, had me
>wishing for an after-dinner cig. But now I can't stand smoke; it
>makes my eyes itch and water and gives me a headache and sore
>throat.

Better for you. I'm just glad I smoked pot instead of cigarettes, at
least that is easy to give up.
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Make credence recognised that on 18 Apr 2007 13:23:39 -0700, Iceman
<[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>> > in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>
>> Only restaurants, not bars?
>> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>
>
>New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
>hookah bars. I can't imagine Amsterdam wouldn't do the same for
>cannabis cafes.

They might do, but joints are part tobacco, so the ban would become
unworkable. A smoker could merely claim it was a joint.
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:59:42 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Make credence recognised that on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:05:44 -0700,
>Hatunen <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:13:31 +0100, [email protected] (David
>>Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>>That's very interesting news, thanks! Any hope for Germany at some
>>>point?
>>>
>>>The changeover here is going to be interesting. I was in quite a nice
>>>pub in London last night near Warwick Road, and I'd say half of the
>>>clientele were smoking, which wasn't pleasant, even with pretty good
>>>ventilation.
>>
>>Because of the thick smoke my wife and I have pretty much avoided
>>pubs in the UK. I once walked through one in Mayfair to find the
>>loo and almost choked on the smoke. It felt like I should carry a
>>machete to cut through the fog.
>
>Almost choked? I think you are exaggerating quite a bit. It's smelly,
>and a bit unpleasant, but it wont kill you for a trip to the loo.

A little hyperbole ther, but not as much as you might think for
someone who is sensitive to cigarette smoke.

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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:03:09 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Make credence recognised that on 18 Apr 2007 13:23:39 -0700, Iceman
><[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Martin wrote:
>>> > in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>>
>>> Only restaurants, not bars?
>>> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>>
>>
>>New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
>>hookah bars. I can't imagine Amsterdam wouldn't do the same for
>>cannabis cafes.
>
>They might do, but joints are part tobacco, so the ban would become
>unworkable. A smoker could merely claim it was a joint.

You made your joints with tobacco?

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* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Make credence recognised that on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:04:09 -0700,
Hatunen <[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:03:09 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>Make credence recognised that on 18 Apr 2007 13:23:39 -0700, Iceman
>><[email protected]> has scripted:
>>
>>>On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Martin wrote:
>>>> > in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>>>
>>>> Only restaurants, not bars?
>>>> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>>>
>>>
>>>New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
>>>hookah bars. I can't imagine Amsterdam wouldn't do the same for
>>>cannabis cafes.
>>
>>They might do, but joints are part tobacco, so the ban would become
>>unworkable. A smoker could merely claim it was a joint.
>
>You made your joints with tobacco?

Yes. Joints with just weed burn poorly.

This is why nearly everyone mixes some tobacco with it, as the tobacco
burns at a lower temperature, and makes it more pleasant to smoke.
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:33:48 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Make credence recognised that on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:04:09 -0700,
>Hatunen <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:03:09 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>>>Make credence recognised that on 18 Apr 2007 13:23:39 -0700, Iceman
>>><[email protected]> has scripted:
>>>
>>>>On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Martin wrote:
>>>>> > in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>>>>
>>>>> Only restaurants, not bars?
>>>>> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
>>>>hookah bars. I can't imagine Amsterdam wouldn't do the same for
>>>>cannabis cafes.
>>>
>>>They might do, but joints are part tobacco, so the ban would become
>>>unworkable. A smoker could merely claim it was a joint.
>>
>>You made your joints with tobacco?
>
>Yes. Joints with just weed burn poorly.
>
>This is why nearly everyone mixes some tobacco with it, as the tobacco
>burns at a lower temperature, and makes it more pleasant to smoke.

Not around Tucson. Especially not back in the days when marijuana
was our biggest produce import (Tucson is a major distribution
center for Mexican produce).

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Make credence recognised that on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:03:21 -0700,
Hatunen <[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:59:42 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>Make credence recognised that on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:05:44 -0700,
>>Hatunen <[email protected]> has scripted:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:13:31 +0100, [email protected] (David
>>>Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>>>>That's very interesting news, thanks! Any hope for Germany at some
>>>>point?
>>>>
>>>>The changeover here is going to be interesting. I was in quite a nice
>>>>pub in London last night near Warwick Road, and I'd say half of the
>>>>clientele were smoking, which wasn't pleasant, even with pretty good
>>>>ventilation.
>>>
>>>Because of the thick smoke my wife and I have pretty much avoided
>>>pubs in the UK. I once walked through one in Mayfair to find the
>>>loo and almost choked on the smoke. It felt like I should carry a
>>>machete to cut through the fog.
>>
>>Almost choked? I think you are exaggerating quite a bit. It's smelly,
>>and a bit unpleasant, but it wont kill you for a trip to the loo.
>
>A little hyperbole ther, but not as much as you might think for
>someone who is sensitive to cigarette smoke.

During my last trip to the UK I noticed how much pubs stink. Oddly,
even though I detest it, I found it kinda nice that it was still
happening. Must have been some conservative element left in me.
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Hatunen wrote on Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:03:21 -0700:

??>> Make credence recognised that on Wed, 18 Apr 2007
10:05:44 -0700,
??>> Hatunen <[email protected]> has scripted:
??>>>
??>>> Because of the thick smoke my wife and I have pretty much
??>>> avoided pubs in the UK. I once walked through one in
??>>> Mayfair to find the loo and almost choked on the smoke.
??>>> It felt like I should carry a machete to cut through the
??>>> fog.
H> A little hyperbole ther, but not as much as you might think
H> for someone who is sensitive to cigarette smoke.

Twenty years ago, I smoked a pipe. I gave it up prior to heart
surgery and have never felt the urge to smoke again. It is
amazing how sensitive one becomes to smokers, say in a library,
who go outside and come back absolutely reeking! At the weekend,
the power went off and I had to make a quiick decision about a
hotel room since they were going quickly. I took a smoking room
and it was not too bad. What was irritating was that I could
smell the smoke on my clothes and in my sinuses for about a day
after I went home the next day.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

Iceman wrote:
> On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>>> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>> Only restaurants, not bars?
>> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>
>
> New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
> hookah bars.

Interestingly, this will make the UK laws among the strictest, as the
question of "hookah bars" was the subject of a TV item a couple of weeks
ago. It was made clear that there will be NO exceptions. These
coffee/smoking bars will, after the 1st July, have to provide coffee only.

"Hatunen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>>This is why nearly everyone mixes some tobacco with it, as the tobacco
>>burns at a lower temperature, and makes it more pleasant to smoke.
>
> Not around Tucson.

Maybe that was why Jojo left home?

;-)

Ian

"Mike O'Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Iceman wrote:
>> On Apr 18, 5:45 am, Mike O'Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Martin wrote:
>>>> in Dutch Restaurants from 1-1-2008
>>> Only restaurants, not bars?
>>> Be Interesting to see how this will affect cannabis cafes!
>>
>>
>> New York City's very strict smoking ban makes exceptions for cigar and
>> hookah bars.
>
> Interestingly, this will make the UK laws among the strictest, as the
> question of "hookah bars" was the subject of a TV item a couple of weeks
> ago. It was made clear that there will be NO exceptions. These
> coffee/smoking bars will, after the 1st July, have to provide coffee only.

If the new puritans of the Labour party weren't going to make an exception
for working men's clubs they certainly weren't going to make an exception
for the new and trendy London hookah bars...

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William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:19:29 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >It will also make eating in pubs less of a lottery. If you get a seat
> >next to the pub 'chimney' your meal is going to be spoiled, smoker or
> >not...
>
> but it looks like sitting outside a pub having a pint on sunny day will be not
> so nice.

Plenty of smokers outside already, especially at the moment given the
run of great weather in London and other parts of the UK.

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