New train tested at 348km/h in Italy
Sep 17th 2005 | 7:40 pm
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Re: New train tested at 348km/h in Italy. Question of finance
[email protected] writes:
> The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
> disagree.
The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
Chernobyl was a research facility.
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> The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
> disagree.
The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
Chernobyl was a research facility.
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Sep 17th 2005 | 7:58 pm
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On 18 Sep 2005 00:32:24 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Nuclear power is quite clean.
>The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
>disagree.
I knew the answer before he posted it. Cleanliness is next to
Godliness in the Mixi Dictionary (Reg. TM)
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>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Nuclear power is quite clean.
>The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
>disagree.
I knew the answer before he posted it. Cleanliness is next to
Godliness in the Mixi Dictionary (Reg. TM)
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Martin
Sep 17th 2005 | 7:58 pm
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On 18 Sep 2005 00:34:26 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> There are no TGV routes within Paris.
>So?
I always catch a flying porkie
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>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> There are no TGV routes within Paris.
>So?
I always catch a flying porkie
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Sep 17th 2005 | 8:23 pm
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Re: New train tested at 348km/h in Italy. Question of finance
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:40:35 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>> The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
>> disagree.
>The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
>residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
>Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
>generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
>nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
>Chernobyl was a research facility.
Time to do a bit of research? The Calder Hall power plant is located
on the Sellafield site, formerly known as Windscale.
http://www.bnfl.com/index.aspx?page=413
"This week Calder Hall, the world's first commercial nuclear power
station, celebrates 40 years of operation. The celebration follows the
announcement that the operating lives of both Calder Hall and its
sister station at Chapelcross, (Dumfries and Galloway) are to be
extended into the next century."
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wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>> The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
>> disagree.
>The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
>residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
>Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
>generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
>nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
>Chernobyl was a research facility.
Time to do a bit of research? The Calder Hall power plant is located
on the Sellafield site, formerly known as Windscale.
http://www.bnfl.com/index.aspx?page=413
"This week Calder Hall, the world's first commercial nuclear power
station, celebrates 40 years of operation. The celebration follows the
announcement that the operating lives of both Calder Hall and its
sister station at Chapelcross, (Dumfries and Galloway) are to be
extended into the next century."
--
Martin
Sep 17th 2005 | 8:37 pm
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Re: New train tested at 348km/h in Italy. Question of finance
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:58:13 +0200, "Alan \(in Brussels\)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:32:37 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> There isn't a double duplex TGV each 5 minutes.
>> >------------------
>> >que ? Is the motorway 100% occupied all the time ?
>> It appears to be in this part of the world.
>> >It's because of demand naturally.
>> >But you can run a double duplex TGV each 5 minute.
>> They could, but they don't.
>> I think the plan for the route between Adam and Paris is one an hour
>> during the day. Hardly a justification for the enormous amount spent
>> and the disruption caused building it.
>In that case, you have been misinformed.
I got my information that there would be one train/hour from Amsterdam
to Paris from the local newspaper. You conform this below.
> As well as the hourly through
>TGV-type train each way Amsterdam-Paris, numerous other fast trains
Fast as in 500km/hour?
>(up to
>10/hr) will be running on parts of the HSL-Zuid line,
> including one
>replacing the present hourly Amsterdam - Brussels service
Is this different to what I said?
>(see
>www.hsl-zuid.nl for details
I only found photos. Where should I look?
>). But as I explained previously, new
>rolling-stock with 25 kV power and ERTMS signalling is needed for this
>purpose, and that is why such a long test period is needed (just like the
>new Rome-Naples HSL about which this thread began).
but the Thalys was new rolling stock.
>Regards,
>- Alan (in Brussels)
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:32:37 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> There isn't a double duplex TGV each 5 minutes.
>> >------------------
>> >que ? Is the motorway 100% occupied all the time ?
>> It appears to be in this part of the world.
>> >It's because of demand naturally.
>> >But you can run a double duplex TGV each 5 minute.
>> They could, but they don't.
>> I think the plan for the route between Adam and Paris is one an hour
>> during the day. Hardly a justification for the enormous amount spent
>> and the disruption caused building it.
>In that case, you have been misinformed.
I got my information that there would be one train/hour from Amsterdam
to Paris from the local newspaper. You conform this below.
> As well as the hourly through
>TGV-type train each way Amsterdam-Paris, numerous other fast trains
Fast as in 500km/hour?
>(up to
>10/hr) will be running on parts of the HSL-Zuid line,
> including one
>replacing the present hourly Amsterdam - Brussels service
Is this different to what I said?
>(see
>www.hsl-zuid.nl for details
I only found photos. Where should I look?
>). But as I explained previously, new
>rolling-stock with 25 kV power and ERTMS signalling is needed for this
>purpose, and that is why such a long test period is needed (just like the
>new Rome-Naples HSL about which this thread began).
but the Thalys was new rolling stock.
>Regards,
>- Alan (in Brussels)
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Martin
Sep 17th 2005 | 8:42 pm
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> [email protected] writes:
> > The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
> > disagree.
> The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
> residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
> Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
> generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
> nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
> Chernobyl was a research facility.
Wrong.
As usual your "argument by assertion" is deficient.
G;
> [email protected] writes:
> > The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
> > disagree.
> The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
> residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
> Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
> generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
> nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
> Chernobyl was a research facility.
Wrong.
As usual your "argument by assertion" is deficient.
G;
Sep 17th 2005 | 8:50 pm
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Re: New train tested at 348km/h in Italy. Question of finance
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:58:13 +0200, "Alan \(in Brussels\)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:32:37 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> There isn't a double duplex TGV each 5 minutes.
>> >------------------
>> >que ? Is the motorway 100% occupied all the time ?
>> It appears to be in this part of the world.
>> >It's because of demand naturally.
>> >But you can run a double duplex TGV each 5 minute.
>> They could, but they don't.
>> I think the plan for the route between Adam and Paris is one an hour
>> during the day. Hardly a justification for the enormous amount spent
>> and the disruption caused building it.
>In that case, you have been misinformed. As well as the hourly through
>TGV-type train each way Amsterdam-Paris, numerous other fast trains (up to
>10/hr) will be running on parts of the HSL-Zuid line, including one
>replacing the present hourly Amsterdam - Brussels service (see
>www.hsl-zuid.nl
or did you mean http://www.hslzuid.nl ?
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:32:37 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> There isn't a double duplex TGV each 5 minutes.
>> >------------------
>> >que ? Is the motorway 100% occupied all the time ?
>> It appears to be in this part of the world.
>> >It's because of demand naturally.
>> >But you can run a double duplex TGV each 5 minute.
>> They could, but they don't.
>> I think the plan for the route between Adam and Paris is one an hour
>> during the day. Hardly a justification for the enormous amount spent
>> and the disruption caused building it.
>In that case, you have been misinformed. As well as the hourly through
>TGV-type train each way Amsterdam-Paris, numerous other fast trains (up to
>10/hr) will be running on parts of the HSL-Zuid line, including one
>replacing the present hourly Amsterdam - Brussels service (see
>www.hsl-zuid.nl
or did you mean http://www.hslzuid.nl ?
--
Martin
Sep 17th 2005 | 8:52 pm
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Re: New train tested at 348km/h in Italy. Question of finance
On 18 Sep 2005 01:42:39 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> [email protected] writes:
>> > The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
>> > disagree.
>> The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
>> residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
>> Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
>> generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
>> nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
>> Chernobyl was a research facility.
>Wrong.
>As usual your "argument by assertion" is deficient.
Yeah, but he did some research some years ago.
Recently he has been consistently wrong. I blame Miguel.
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Martin
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> [email protected] writes:
>> > The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
>> > disagree.
>> The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
>> residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
>> Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
>> generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
>> nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
>> Chernobyl was a research facility.
>Wrong.
>As usual your "argument by assertion" is deficient.
Yeah, but he did some research some years ago.
Recently he has been consistently wrong. I blame Miguel.
--
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Sep 17th 2005 | 11:33 pm
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"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 18 Sep 2005 01:42:39 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> [email protected] writes:
>>> > The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
>>> > disagree.
>>> The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
>>> residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
>>> Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
>>> generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
>>> nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
>>> Chernobyl was a research facility.
>>Wrong.
>>As usual your "argument by assertion" is deficient.
> Yeah, but he did some research some years ago.
> Recently he has been consistently wrong. I blame Miguel.
The new batteries he installed have been leaking badly.
JohnT
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> On 18 Sep 2005 01:42:39 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> [email protected] writes:
>>> > The residents of Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island etc. might
>>> > disagree.
>>> The remainder of the planet would probably agree. Even the said
>>> residents might agree if they looked at the actual figures.
>>> Furthermore, only one of the sites in question was a nuclear power
>>> generation plant (TMI), and the pollution from that was virtually
>>> nonexistent. Windscale was used to produce plutonium for bombs, and
>>> Chernobyl was a research facility.
>>Wrong.
>>As usual your "argument by assertion" is deficient.
> Yeah, but he did some research some years ago.
> Recently he has been consistently wrong. I blame Miguel.
The new batteries he installed have been leaking badly.
JohnT
Sep 17th 2005 | 11:59 pm
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Re: New train tested at 348km/h in Italy. Question of finance
"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:58:13 +0200, "Alan \(in Brussels\)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:32:37 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >> >news:[email protected].. .
> >>
> >> >> There isn't a double duplex TGV each 5 minutes.
> >> >------------------
> >> >que ? Is the motorway 100% occupied all the time ?
> >>
> >> It appears to be in this part of the world.
> >>
> >> >It's because of demand naturally.
> >> >But you can run a double duplex TGV each 5 minute.
> >>
> >> They could, but they don't.
> >>
> >> I think the plan for the route between Adam and Paris is one an hour
> >> during the day. Hardly a justification for the enormous amount spent
> >> and the disruption caused building it.
> >
> >In that case, you have been misinformed. As well as the hourly through
> >TGV-type train each way Amsterdam-Paris, numerous other fast trains (up
to
> >10/hr) will be running on parts of the HSL-Zuid line, including one
> >replacing the present hourly Amsterdam - Brussels service (see
> >www.hsl-zuid.nl
> or did you mean http://www.hslzuid.nl ?
Yes, sorry for the confusion. But the hyperlink there to the High Speed
Alliance's own site is broken. For details of the other high-speed trains
(250 km/h max, since you ask), go to:
http://www.highspeedalliance.nl/stat.../factsheet.pdf
The point Martin seems to be deliberately disregarding is that - unlike eg
the LGVs in France - the new HSL in the Netherlands will be suitable for
(and used by) other trains than the single hourly Thalys between Amsterdam
and Paris, which obviously helps justify its cost.
At this stage, it is unclear exactly what other services will be operated.
By EU rules cross-border trains are supposed to be 'commercially viable',
and by NL government policy the new domestic ones are supposed to be so too.
So the HSA will have to adapt its offer to match the demands of its
customers, within the operational constraints. But it would be absurd to
burden the HSA initially with the whole cost of building and equipping the
new line, when its slower competitors are using written-off
infrastructure...
Regards,
- Alan (in Brussels)
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:58:13 +0200, "Alan \(in Brussels\)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:32:37 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >> >news:[email protected].. .
> >>
> >> >> There isn't a double duplex TGV each 5 minutes.
> >> >------------------
> >> >que ? Is the motorway 100% occupied all the time ?
> >>
> >> It appears to be in this part of the world.
> >>
> >> >It's because of demand naturally.
> >> >But you can run a double duplex TGV each 5 minute.
> >>
> >> They could, but they don't.
> >>
> >> I think the plan for the route between Adam and Paris is one an hour
> >> during the day. Hardly a justification for the enormous amount spent
> >> and the disruption caused building it.
> >
> >In that case, you have been misinformed. As well as the hourly through
> >TGV-type train each way Amsterdam-Paris, numerous other fast trains (up
to
> >10/hr) will be running on parts of the HSL-Zuid line, including one
> >replacing the present hourly Amsterdam - Brussels service (see
> >www.hsl-zuid.nl
> or did you mean http://www.hslzuid.nl ?
Yes, sorry for the confusion. But the hyperlink there to the High Speed
Alliance's own site is broken. For details of the other high-speed trains
(250 km/h max, since you ask), go to:
http://www.highspeedalliance.nl/stat.../factsheet.pdf
The point Martin seems to be deliberately disregarding is that - unlike eg
the LGVs in France - the new HSL in the Netherlands will be suitable for
(and used by) other trains than the single hourly Thalys between Amsterdam
and Paris, which obviously helps justify its cost.
At this stage, it is unclear exactly what other services will be operated.
By EU rules cross-border trains are supposed to be 'commercially viable',
and by NL government policy the new domestic ones are supposed to be so too.
So the HSA will have to adapt its offer to match the demands of its
customers, within the operational constraints. But it would be absurd to
burden the HSA initially with the whole cost of building and equipping the
new line, when its slower competitors are using written-off
infrastructure...
Regards,
- Alan (in Brussels)
Sep 18th 2005 | 12:13 am
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 13:59:31 +0200, "Alan \(in Brussels\)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:58:13 +0200, "Alan \(in Brussels\)"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:32:37 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> >> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >>
>> >> >> There isn't a double duplex TGV each 5 minutes.
>> >> >------------------
>> >> >que ? Is the motorway 100% occupied all the time ?
>> >>
>> >> It appears to be in this part of the world.
>> >>
>> >> >It's because of demand naturally.
>> >> >But you can run a double duplex TGV each 5 minute.
>> >>
>> >> They could, but they don't.
>> >>
>> >> I think the plan for the route between Adam and Paris is one an hour
>> >> during the day. Hardly a justification for the enormous amount spent
>> >> and the disruption caused building it.
>> >
>> >In that case, you have been misinformed. As well as the hourly through
>> >TGV-type train each way Amsterdam-Paris, numerous other fast trains (up
>to
>> >10/hr) will be running on parts of the HSL-Zuid line, including one
>> >replacing the present hourly Amsterdam - Brussels service (see
>> >www.hsl-zuid.nl
>> or did you mean http://www.hslzuid.nl ?
>Yes, sorry for the confusion. But the hyperlink there to the High Speed
>Alliance's own site is broken. For details of the other high-speed trains
>(250 km/h max, since you ask), go to:
>http://www.highspeedalliance.nl/stat.../factsheet.pdf
>The point Martin seems to be deliberately disregarding is that - unlike eg
>the LGVs in France - the new HSL in the Netherlands will be suitable for
>(and used by) other trains than the single hourly Thalys between Amsterdam
>and Paris, which obviously helps justify its cost.
but only in the southern part, if I understand the web site?
>At this stage, it is unclear exactly what other services will be operated.
>By EU rules cross-border trains are supposed to be 'commercially viable',
>and by NL government policy the new domestic ones are supposed to be so too.
>So the HSA will have to adapt its offer to match the demands of its
>customers, within the operational constraints. But it would be absurd to
>burden the HSA initially with the whole cost of building and equipping the
>new line, when its slower competitors are using written-off
>infrastructure...
... Schiphol? :-)
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:58:13 +0200, "Alan \(in Brussels\)"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Martin" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:32:37 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>> >> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >>
>> >> >> There isn't a double duplex TGV each 5 minutes.
>> >> >------------------
>> >> >que ? Is the motorway 100% occupied all the time ?
>> >>
>> >> It appears to be in this part of the world.
>> >>
>> >> >It's because of demand naturally.
>> >> >But you can run a double duplex TGV each 5 minute.
>> >>
>> >> They could, but they don't.
>> >>
>> >> I think the plan for the route between Adam and Paris is one an hour
>> >> during the day. Hardly a justification for the enormous amount spent
>> >> and the disruption caused building it.
>> >
>> >In that case, you have been misinformed. As well as the hourly through
>> >TGV-type train each way Amsterdam-Paris, numerous other fast trains (up
>to
>> >10/hr) will be running on parts of the HSL-Zuid line, including one
>> >replacing the present hourly Amsterdam - Brussels service (see
>> >www.hsl-zuid.nl
>> or did you mean http://www.hslzuid.nl ?
>Yes, sorry for the confusion. But the hyperlink there to the High Speed
>Alliance's own site is broken. For details of the other high-speed trains
>(250 km/h max, since you ask), go to:
>http://www.highspeedalliance.nl/stat.../factsheet.pdf
>The point Martin seems to be deliberately disregarding is that - unlike eg
>the LGVs in France - the new HSL in the Netherlands will be suitable for
>(and used by) other trains than the single hourly Thalys between Amsterdam
>and Paris, which obviously helps justify its cost.
but only in the southern part, if I understand the web site?
>At this stage, it is unclear exactly what other services will be operated.
>By EU rules cross-border trains are supposed to be 'commercially viable',
>and by NL government policy the new domestic ones are supposed to be so too.
>So the HSA will have to adapt its offer to match the demands of its
>customers, within the operational constraints. But it would be absurd to
>burden the HSA initially with the whole cost of building and equipping the
>new line, when its slower competitors are using written-off
>infrastructure...
... Schiphol? :-)
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Sep 18th 2005 | 1:12 am
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Martin writes:
> Time to do a bit of research? The Calder Hall power plant is located
> on the Sellafield site, formerly known as Windscale.
I have done research. The Windscale accident occurred in a reactor
(Pile 1) used to synthesize plutonium for weapons use. It was not a
reactor used to generate electricity. The design of the reactor was
dramatically different from designs used for nuclear power-plant
reactors. There was no containment building. The reactor was not
designed to produce heat. It was just a graphite pile essentially
unprotected with fans on one side and a big filter on the other that
led to an exhaust stack. Nothing at all to do with power-plant
reactors. About the only thing the two types of reactors had in
common was that both depended on nuclear reactions to fulfill their
respective purposes.
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> Time to do a bit of research? The Calder Hall power plant is located
> on the Sellafield site, formerly known as Windscale.
I have done research. The Windscale accident occurred in a reactor
(Pile 1) used to synthesize plutonium for weapons use. It was not a
reactor used to generate electricity. The design of the reactor was
dramatically different from designs used for nuclear power-plant
reactors. There was no containment building. The reactor was not
designed to produce heat. It was just a graphite pile essentially
unprotected with fans on one side and a big filter on the other that
led to an exhaust stack. Nothing at all to do with power-plant
reactors. About the only thing the two types of reactors had in
common was that both depended on nuclear reactions to fulfill their
respective purposes.
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Sep 18th 2005 | 1:13 am
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[email protected] writes:
> Wrong.
Show the error.
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> Wrong.
Show the error.
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Sep 18th 2005 | 1:19 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> [email protected] writes:
> > Wrong.
> Show the error.
How? You're the guy who "never asks for proof", remember?
G;
> [email protected] writes:
> > Wrong.
> Show the error.
How? You're the guy who "never asks for proof", remember?
G;
Sep 18th 2005 | 1:41 am
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Re: New train tested at 348km/h in Italy. Question of finance
[email protected] writes:
> How? You're the guy who "never asks for proof", remember?
I'm not asking for proof of anything, but merely clarification.
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> How? You're the guy who "never asks for proof", remember?
I'm not asking for proof of anything, but merely clarification.
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