Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:36 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:20:36 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:44:47 +0100, The Reid
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >>>> In a land as tiny as the British Isles I would have visited
> >>>> every part of it by now if I lived there.
> >>
> >>actually I doubt it, you probably pace yourself?
> >>
> >We may set different paces.
> >
> >>>I'm shocked by the number of places I haven't been- especially some of
> >>>the cathedral cities.
> >>
> >>you haven't even been to Wasdale! How about Muckleflugga?
> >>
> >>Come on, how many Brits here not been to Mucklefugga?
> >
> >And no - I missed Mucklefugga - next time? I believe I'll
> >need a boat?
>
> I just got a post card from friends visiting the Shetland Isles. Memorable is
> "We have visited all twelve pubs. They are all terrible"
>
> How come nobody posting here mentions vital info like this?
Because if you went to Shetland looking for great pubs, you'd be nuts.
People go for the scenery and the wildlife.
--
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:20:36 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:44:47 +0100, The Reid
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >>>> In a land as tiny as the British Isles I would have visited
> >>>> every part of it by now if I lived there.
> >>
> >>actually I doubt it, you probably pace yourself?
> >>
> >We may set different paces.
> >
> >>>I'm shocked by the number of places I haven't been- especially some of
> >>>the cathedral cities.
> >>
> >>you haven't even been to Wasdale! How about Muckleflugga?
> >>
> >>Come on, how many Brits here not been to Mucklefugga?
> >
> >And no - I missed Mucklefugga - next time? I believe I'll
> >need a boat?
>
> I just got a post card from friends visiting the Shetland Isles. Memorable is
> "We have visited all twelve pubs. They are all terrible"
>
> How come nobody posting here mentions vital info like this?
Because if you went to Shetland looking for great pubs, you'd be nuts.
People go for the scenery and the wildlife.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:36 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> >> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of
> >> >> >> people moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It's not intended to.
> >> >>
> >> >> so you agree its crap?
> >> >
> >> >Where did I say that?
> >>
> >> up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >No I didn't.
>
> then explain why I shouldn't draw that conclusion from the para above.
Because you're nuts.
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> >> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of
> >> >> >> people moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It's not intended to.
> >> >>
> >> >> so you agree its crap?
> >> >
> >> >Where did I say that?
> >>
> >> up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >No I didn't.
>
> then explain why I shouldn't draw that conclusion from the para above.
Because you're nuts.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:36 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:03:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
[]
> >You don't need to get rid of all car traffic to improve
> >congestion problems.
>
> The amount reduced by congestion charging is almost back already.
But the money still gets put into things that matter. The buses in
London are many times better than they were a decade ago. We took one
last week, and were impressed with the new bus, and the relative speed
it got us from Oxford Street to Victoria.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:03:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
[]
> >You don't need to get rid of all car traffic to improve
> >congestion problems.
>
> The amount reduced by congestion charging is almost back already.
But the money still gets put into things that matter. The buses in
London are many times better than they were a decade ago. We took one
last week, and were impressed with the new bus, and the relative speed
it got us from Oxford Street to Victoria.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:39 am
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Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> could work for big purchases.
>
>Do people tend to drive to Selfridges for a toothbrush?
no idea
>> I wonder how you could make it work?
>
>Easily
how?
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>> could work for big purchases.
>
>Do people tend to drive to Selfridges for a toothbrush?
no idea
>> I wonder how you could make it work?
>
>Easily
how?
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Jul 27th 2007 | 1:40 am
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Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> > I think it's bullshit. The kind of person who drives to
>> >Selfridges usually lives in the charging zone.
>>
>> you would!
>
>It's true.
I live here and shop there, I dont know that, how do you?
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>> > I think it's bullshit. The kind of person who drives to
>> >Selfridges usually lives in the charging zone.
>>
>> you would!
>
>It's true.
I live here and shop there, I dont know that, how do you?
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Jul 27th 2007 | 1:41 am
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Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> or you dont want to hear anything that doesnt suit you?
>
>I think I'm on firm ground here.
firm ground! Have you researched your opinions, or is it just what you
want to be true?
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>> or you dont want to hear anything that doesnt suit you?
>
>I think I'm on firm ground here.
firm ground! Have you researched your opinions, or is it just what you
want to be true?
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Mike
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Jul 27th 2007 | 1:42 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:36:04 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:20:36 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:44:47 +0100, The Reid
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> In a land as tiny as the British Isles I would have visited
>> >>>> every part of it by now if I lived there.
>> >>
>> >>actually I doubt it, you probably pace yourself?
>> >>
>> >We may set different paces.
>> >
>> >>>I'm shocked by the number of places I haven't been- especially some of
>> >>>the cathedral cities.
>> >>
>> >>you haven't even been to Wasdale! How about Muckleflugga?
>> >>
>> >>Come on, how many Brits here not been to Mucklefugga?
>> >
>> >And no - I missed Mucklefugga - next time? I believe I'll
>> >need a boat?
>>
>> I just got a post card from friends visiting the Shetland Isles. Memorable is
>> "We have visited all twelve pubs. They are all terrible"
>>
>> How come nobody posting here mentions vital info like this?
>
>Because if you went to Shetland looking for great pubs, you'd be nuts.
>People go for the scenery and the wildlife.
They said the food was shit too. Nobody has mentioned that here either.
So how do you spend your evenings? Staring out to sea through the pissing rain
trying to imagine the sunset?
--
Martin
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:20:36 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:44:47 +0100, The Reid
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> In a land as tiny as the British Isles I would have visited
>> >>>> every part of it by now if I lived there.
>> >>
>> >>actually I doubt it, you probably pace yourself?
>> >>
>> >We may set different paces.
>> >
>> >>>I'm shocked by the number of places I haven't been- especially some of
>> >>>the cathedral cities.
>> >>
>> >>you haven't even been to Wasdale! How about Muckleflugga?
>> >>
>> >>Come on, how many Brits here not been to Mucklefugga?
>> >
>> >And no - I missed Mucklefugga - next time? I believe I'll
>> >need a boat?
>>
>> I just got a post card from friends visiting the Shetland Isles. Memorable is
>> "We have visited all twelve pubs. They are all terrible"
>>
>> How come nobody posting here mentions vital info like this?
>
>Because if you went to Shetland looking for great pubs, you'd be nuts.
>People go for the scenery and the wildlife.
They said the food was shit too. Nobody has mentioned that here either.
So how do you spend your evenings? Staring out to sea through the pissing rain
trying to imagine the sunset?
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:42 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> could work for big purchases.
> >
> >Do people tend to drive to Selfridges for a toothbrush?
>
> no idea
>
> >> I wonder how you could make it work?
> >
> >Easily
>
> how?
Ask for the customer's address. If they spend over a certain amount,
send them a cheque to cover the congestion charge if they live outside
it.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> could work for big purchases.
> >
> >Do people tend to drive to Selfridges for a toothbrush?
>
> no idea
>
> >> I wonder how you could make it work?
> >
> >Easily
>
> how?
Ask for the customer's address. If they spend over a certain amount,
send them a cheque to cover the congestion charge if they live outside
it.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:42 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> > I think it's bullshit. The kind of person who drives to
> >> >Selfridges usually lives in the charging zone.
> >>
> >> you would!
> >
> >It's true.
>
> I live here and shop there, I dont know that, how do you?
Because it's true. Only rich or crazy people drive to Oxford Street to
shop.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> > I think it's bullshit. The kind of person who drives to
> >> >Selfridges usually lives in the charging zone.
> >>
> >> you would!
> >
> >It's true.
>
> I live here and shop there, I dont know that, how do you?
Because it's true. Only rich or crazy people drive to Oxford Street to
shop.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:44 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:36:05 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:03:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>[]
>> >You don't need to get rid of all car traffic to improve
>> >congestion problems.
>>
>> The amount reduced by congestion charging is almost back already.
>
>But the money still gets put into things that matter. The buses in
>London are many times better than they were a decade ago. We took one
>last week, and were impressed with the new bus, and the relative speed
>it got us from Oxford Street to Victoria.
So why not just increase the council tax and stop wasting money on CCTV and
computers?
--
Martin
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:03:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>[]
>> >You don't need to get rid of all car traffic to improve
>> >congestion problems.
>>
>> The amount reduced by congestion charging is almost back already.
>
>But the money still gets put into things that matter. The buses in
>London are many times better than they were a decade ago. We took one
>last week, and were impressed with the new bus, and the relative speed
>it got us from Oxford Street to Victoria.
So why not just increase the council tax and stop wasting money on CCTV and
computers?
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:44 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:36:05 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of
>> >> >> >> people moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >It's not intended to.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> so you agree its crap?
>> >> >
>> >> >Where did I say that?
>> >>
>> >> up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >
>> >No I didn't.
>>
>> then explain why I shouldn't draw that conclusion from the para above.
>
>Because you're nuts.
Mixi is right you do make personal attacks. :-)
--
Martin
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of
>> >> >> >> people moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >It's not intended to.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> so you agree its crap?
>> >> >
>> >> >Where did I say that?
>> >>
>> >> up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >
>> >No I didn't.
>>
>> then explain why I shouldn't draw that conclusion from the para above.
>
>Because you're nuts.
Mixi is right you do make personal attacks. :-)
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:45 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:42:42 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> could work for big purchases.
>> >
>> >Do people tend to drive to Selfridges for a toothbrush?
>>
>> no idea
>>
>> >> I wonder how you could make it work?
>> >
>> >Easily
>>
>> how?
>
>Ask for the customer's address. If they spend over a certain amount,
>send them a cheque to cover the congestion charge if they live outside
>it.
How many would give the address of a relative?
--
Martin
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> could work for big purchases.
>> >
>> >Do people tend to drive to Selfridges for a toothbrush?
>>
>> no idea
>>
>> >> I wonder how you could make it work?
>> >
>> >Easily
>>
>> how?
>
>Ask for the customer's address. If they spend over a certain amount,
>send them a cheque to cover the congestion charge if they live outside
>it.
How many would give the address of a relative?
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:46 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:36:04 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> I just got a post card from friends visiting the Shetland Isles.
> >> Memorable is "We have visited all twelve pubs. They are all terrible"
> >>
> >> How come nobody posting here mentions vital info like this?
> >
> >Because if you went to Shetland looking for great pubs, you'd be nuts.
> >People go for the scenery and the wildlife.
>
> They said the food was shit too.
Maybe they shouldn't have gone.
> Nobody has mentioned that here either.
Ask Reid what he thought of the food. I'd trust his judgement.
> So how do you spend your evenings?
I've only spent an hour or so on Shetland so I wouldn't know.
> Staring out to sea through the pissing rain
> trying to imagine the sunset?
There are plenty of places people can go if they need to see sunsets.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:36:04 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> I just got a post card from friends visiting the Shetland Isles.
> >> Memorable is "We have visited all twelve pubs. They are all terrible"
> >>
> >> How come nobody posting here mentions vital info like this?
> >
> >Because if you went to Shetland looking for great pubs, you'd be nuts.
> >People go for the scenery and the wildlife.
>
> They said the food was shit too.
Maybe they shouldn't have gone.
> Nobody has mentioned that here either.
Ask Reid what he thought of the food. I'd trust his judgement.
> So how do you spend your evenings?
I've only spent an hour or so on Shetland so I wouldn't know.
> Staring out to sea through the pissing rain
> trying to imagine the sunset?
There are plenty of places people can go if they need to see sunsets.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:46 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:42:43 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> > I think it's bullshit. The kind of person who drives to
>> >> >Selfridges usually lives in the charging zone.
>> >>
>> >> you would!
>> >
>> >It's true.
>>
>> I live here and shop there, I dont know that, how do you?
>
>Because it's true. Only rich or crazy people drive to Oxford Street to
>shop.
Is it still wall to wall shoe shops owned by the same company?
--
Martin
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> > I think it's bullshit. The kind of person who drives to
>> >> >Selfridges usually lives in the charging zone.
>> >>
>> >> you would!
>> >
>> >It's true.
>>
>> I live here and shop there, I dont know that, how do you?
>
>Because it's true. Only rich or crazy people drive to Oxford Street to
>shop.
Is it still wall to wall shoe shops owned by the same company?
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:47 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:42:42 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> could work for big purchases.
> >> >
> >> >Do people tend to drive to Selfridges for a toothbrush?
> >>
> >> no idea
> >>
> >> >> I wonder how you could make it work?
> >> >
> >> >Easily
> >>
> >> how?
> >
> >Ask for the customer's address. If they spend over a certain amount,
> >send them a cheque to cover the congestion charge if they live outside
> >it.
>
> How many would give the address of a relative?
Ask for proof of address.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:42:42 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> could work for big purchases.
> >> >
> >> >Do people tend to drive to Selfridges for a toothbrush?
> >>
> >> no idea
> >>
> >> >> I wonder how you could make it work?
> >> >
> >> >Easily
> >>
> >> how?
> >
> >Ask for the customer's address. If they spend over a certain amount,
> >send them a cheque to cover the congestion charge if they live outside
> >it.
>
> How many would give the address of a relative?
Ask for proof of address.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
