On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:10:09 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> I think your friend was thinking of his holiday flight, it wouldn't
>> >> have been like that, especially if a charter.
>> >
>> >People go on holiday by train, having booked a particular train weeks in
>> >advance. Is that suddenly not public transport?
>>
>> Of course not. Can you not understand somebody not seing a charter you
>> cannot just get on as PT? You dont have to argue every fing tiny point
>> you percive is a minute criticism of PT in some minute way to the
>> 99999th degree! I can see his thinking. If you relaxed so could you.
>
>I can see his thinking, and it's wrong. Simple as that.

You can just get on charters by buying "Camping tickets" in NL. I'm not sure if
there is an equivalent in UK.
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Martin

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:13:12 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> >> we know that (assuming it is public)
>> >> >
>> >> >So why are you saying you can see what he means?
>> >>
>> >> for **** sake.........read what I said. Call it ****ing empathy.
>> >
>> >Swearing?
>>
>> exasperation
>>
>> >You haven't made the case yet that there's any real difference.
>>
>> Im not making a f'ing case, im just pointing out how he probably
>> thinks, for ****s sake.
>> Why is it so important to defend every tiny f'ing thing just because
>> its sacred f'ing PT?
>>
>> I know the plane is PT, ive explained why I think he didnt see it that
>> way, whats the problem?
>
>Problem? I don't have a problem. Jeez, relax.
>
>There are trains in which are all-reserved (not in the UK, though I
>suppose you could include the sleeper services.) They're public
>transport, as much as a charter flight is.

Don't forget the Royal [railway] Coach.
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Martin

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:19:51 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
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>> >> >> >I don't have a clue
>> >> >>
>> >> >> you said it.
>> >> >
>> >> >That's not like you.
>> >>
>> >> Well, you dont on cars. You shouldn't get into costs of company limos
>> >> when talking of individuals.
>> >
>> >I wasn't talking about individuals- I was talking about the costs of a
>> >BMW 7!
>>
>> are you being intentionally obtuse?
>
>No, you are.
>
>> you were talking about individual
>> travelers car v train. Only company execs use BMW7s, usually with a
>> chauffeur.
>
>I mentioned that part as a joke, for goodness sake. That's what the
>smiley was there for. I also mentioned the average cost of a car.

He's wrong anyhow lots of rich old gits drive them in Germany and NL.
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Martin

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:47:51 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:24:45 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> news:[email protected]...
>> >> > >> >> some of the primary reasons people dont use public transport
>> >> are
>> >> > >> >> because its public, less flexible and less comfortable than a
>> >> > >car.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >And in a lot of cases, more expensive.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> i think thats true of trains, but its not why *I* dont use it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >It depends - you can get good deals on the trains but it's rarely
>> >> > >cheaper for 4 of us to travel by train than it is to drive.
>> >> >
>> >> > Once you own a car.
>> >>
>> >> No, total cost. My car costs about 30p/mile taking into account *all*
>> >> costs.
>> >
>> >But the average cost of a car is over £5000 a year.
>>
>> I used to get an allowance of about EUR 50 cent/km allowance. It didn't cover
>> the cost of running even a Fiesta.
>
>It might cover the ford focus on 12,000 miles a year!

15-20 sarf lunnon to the highlands returns? SFA, innit?
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Martin