Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Jul 27th 2007 | 12:44 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> In a land as tiny as the British Isles I would have visited
>> every part of it by now if I lived there.
actually I doubt it, you probably pace yourself?
>I'm shocked by the number of places I haven't been- especially some of
>the cathedral cities.
you haven't even been to Wasdale! How about Muckleflugga?
Come on, how many Brits here not been to Mucklefugga?
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>> In a land as tiny as the British Isles I would have visited
>> every part of it by now if I lived there.
actually I doubt it, you probably pace yourself?
>I'm shocked by the number of places I haven't been- especially some of
>the cathedral cities.
you haven't even been to Wasdale! How about Muckleflugga?
Come on, how many Brits here not been to Mucklefugga?
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:44 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>i live in London. Ive never been to Manchester.
> >
> >Why on earth not?
>
> because cities dont interest me much. I've been to all the remote
> spots, climbed many of the mountains, walked some of the rivers and
> canals and a lot of the coast, but I haven't been to Manchester,
> Birmingham or Liverpool.
So your point in this thread was what, exactly?
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> Following up to Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>i live in London. Ive never been to Manchester.
> >
> >Why on earth not?
>
> because cities dont interest me much. I've been to all the remote
> spots, climbed many of the mountains, walked some of the rivers and
> canals and a lot of the coast, but I haven't been to Manchester,
> Birmingham or Liverpool.
So your point in this thread was what, exactly?
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:46 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:28:21 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> good reason not to bother to visit.
>> >
>> >So you no longer go to the centre of London?
>>
>> i live in London.
>
>How do you usually get to the centre?
and which way do you prefer?
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>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> good reason not to bother to visit.
>> >
>> >So you no longer go to the centre of London?
>>
>> i live in London.
>
>How do you usually get to the centre?
and which way do you prefer?
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:48 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
>> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
>
>It's not intended to.
so you agree its crap? I thought you thought it was the way to travel?
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>> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
>> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
>
>It's not intended to.
so you agree its crap? I thought you thought it was the way to travel?
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:49 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
> >> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
> >
> >It's not intended to.
>
> so you agree its crap?
Where did I say that?
> I thought you thought it was the way to travel?
I do.
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> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
> >> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
> >
> >It's not intended to.
>
> so you agree its crap?
Where did I say that?
> I thought you thought it was the way to travel?
I do.
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:52 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> on car shoppers?
>
>Car shoppers are a tiny proportion of shoppers on Oxford Street.
>
>> They were on the radio after the first year or
>> whatever saying bizz down 10% or something. I still shop there
>> weekends, Selfridges have a car park for account holders.
>
>The solution is blindingly obvious.
I doubt they think so, or they would have applied it to get the biz
back. You had better tell them.
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>> on car shoppers?
>
>Car shoppers are a tiny proportion of shoppers on Oxford Street.
>
>> They were on the radio after the first year or
>> whatever saying bizz down 10% or something. I still shop there
>> weekends, Selfridges have a car park for account holders.
>
>The solution is blindingly obvious.
I doubt they think so, or they would have applied it to get the biz
back. You had better tell them.
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:52 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:30:41 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:29:27 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:01:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/6918585.stm
>> >> >
>> >> >Good news, I hope.
>> >>
>> >> When the area covered overlaps Ken Livingstone's perhaps.
>> >
>> >It could (I stress could) result in a better transport infrastructure.
>>
>> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
>> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
>
>It's not intended to.
So how much better?
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>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:29:27 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:01:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/6918585.stm
>> >> >
>> >> >Good news, I hope.
>> >>
>> >> When the area covered overlaps Ken Livingstone's perhaps.
>> >
>> >It could (I stress could) result in a better transport infrastructure.
>>
>> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
>> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
>
>It's not intended to.
So how much better?
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:54 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> because cities dont interest me much. I've been to all the remote
>> spots, climbed many of the mountains, walked some of the rivers and
>> canals and a lot of the coast, but I haven't been to Manchester,
>> Birmingham or Liverpool.
>
>So your point in this thread was what, exactly?
that you dont like hearing west end business being down?
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>> because cities dont interest me much. I've been to all the remote
>> spots, climbed many of the mountains, walked some of the rivers and
>> canals and a lot of the coast, but I haven't been to Manchester,
>> Birmingham or Liverpool.
>
>So your point in this thread was what, exactly?
that you dont like hearing west end business being down?
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:55 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
>> >> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
>> >
>> >It's not intended to.
>>
>> so you agree its crap?
>
>Where did I say that?
up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> I thought you thought it was the way to travel?
>
>I do.
see above ^^^^^^^^^^
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>> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
>> >> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
>> >
>> >It's not intended to.
>>
>> so you agree its crap?
>
>Where did I say that?
up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> I thought you thought it was the way to travel?
>
>I do.
see above ^^^^^^^^^^
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Jul 27th 2007 | 12:57 am
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:42:57 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> the big shops like Selfridges and John Lewis
>> >
>> >The temporary closure of the Central Line is having a bigger effect.
>>
>> on car shoppers?
>
>Car shoppers are a tiny proportion of shoppers on Oxford Street.
>
>> They were on the radio after the first year or
>> whatever saying bizz down 10% or something. I still shop there
>> weekends, Selfridges have a car park for account holders.
>
>The solution is blindingly obvious.
He should get a Rolls and employ a blonde bimbo chauffeur?
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>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>>
>> >> the big shops like Selfridges and John Lewis
>> >
>> >The temporary closure of the Central Line is having a bigger effect.
>>
>> on car shoppers?
>
>Car shoppers are a tiny proportion of shoppers on Oxford Street.
>
>> They were on the radio after the first year or
>> whatever saying bizz down 10% or something. I still shop there
>> weekends, Selfridges have a car park for account holders.
>
>The solution is blindingly obvious.
He should get a Rolls and employ a blonde bimbo chauffeur?
--
Martin
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:03 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> on car shoppers?
> >
> >Car shoppers are a tiny proportion of shoppers on Oxford Street.
> >
> >> They were on the radio after the first year or
> >> whatever saying bizz down 10% or something. I still shop there
> >> weekends, Selfridges have a car park for account holders.
> >
> >The solution is blindingly obvious.
>
> I doubt they think so, or they would have applied it to get the biz
> back. You had better tell them.
It's easy. They pay their shoppers' congestion charge when they buy
something in the shop.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> on car shoppers?
> >
> >Car shoppers are a tiny proportion of shoppers on Oxford Street.
> >
> >> They were on the radio after the first year or
> >> whatever saying bizz down 10% or something. I still shop there
> >> weekends, Selfridges have a car park for account holders.
> >
> >The solution is blindingly obvious.
>
> I doubt they think so, or they would have applied it to get the biz
> back. You had better tell them.
It's easy. They pay their shoppers' congestion charge when they buy
something in the shop.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 27th 2007 | 1:03 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> because cities dont interest me much. I've been to all the remote
> >> spots, climbed many of the mountains, walked some of the rivers and
> >> canals and a lot of the coast, but I haven't been to Manchester,
> >> Birmingham or Liverpool.
> >
> >So your point in this thread was what, exactly?
>
> that you dont like hearing west end business being down?
Yawn.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> because cities dont interest me much. I've been to all the remote
> >> spots, climbed many of the mountains, walked some of the rivers and
> >> canals and a lot of the coast, but I haven't been to Manchester,
> >> Birmingham or Liverpool.
> >
> >So your point in this thread was what, exactly?
>
> that you dont like hearing west end business being down?
Yawn.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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Jul 27th 2007 | 1:03 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of
> >> >> people moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
> >> >
> >> >It's not intended to.
> >>
> >> so you agree its crap?
> >
> >Where did I say that?
>
> up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No I didn't.
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Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of
> >> >> people moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
> >> >
> >> >It's not intended to.
> >>
> >> so you agree its crap?
> >
> >Where did I say that?
>
> up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No I didn't.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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Jul 27th 2007 | 1:03 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:30:41 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:29:27 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:01:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne)
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/6918585.stm
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Good news, I hope.
> >> >>
> >> >> When the area covered overlaps Ken Livingstone's perhaps.
> >> >
> >> >It could (I stress could) result in a better transport infrastructure.
> >>
> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
> >> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
> >
> >It's not intended to.
>
> So how much better?
Quite a bit. You don't need to get rid of all car traffic to improve
congestion problems.
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> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:30:41 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:29:27 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:01:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne)
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/6918585.stm
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Good news, I hope.
> >> >>
> >> >> When the area covered overlaps Ken Livingstone's perhaps.
> >> >
> >> >It could (I stress could) result in a better transport infrastructure.
> >>
> >> No public transport infrastructure will ever cope with the number of people
> >> moving around everyday using their own vehicles.
> >
> >It's not intended to.
>
> So how much better?
Quite a bit. You don't need to get rid of all car traffic to improve
congestion problems.
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Jul 27th 2007 | 1:07 am
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Re: Manchester votes for congestion charge.
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:42:57 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> the big shops like Selfridges and John Lewis
> >> >
> >> >The temporary closure of the Central Line is having a bigger effect.
> >>
> >> on car shoppers?
> >
> >Car shoppers are a tiny proportion of shoppers on Oxford Street.
> >
> >> They were on the radio after the first year or
> >> whatever saying bizz down 10% or something. I still shop there
> >> weekends, Selfridges have a car park for account holders.
> >
> >The solution is blindingly obvious.
>
> He should get a Rolls and employ a blonde bimbo chauffeur?
It's a small charge for a big spender. (I don't think people drive to
Oxford Street to buy a toothbrush.) Selfridges could pay the congestion
charge. I think it's bullshit. The kind of person who drives to
Selfridges usually lives in the charging zone.
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Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:42:57 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Following up to [email protected] (David Horne) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> the big shops like Selfridges and John Lewis
> >> >
> >> >The temporary closure of the Central Line is having a bigger effect.
> >>
> >> on car shoppers?
> >
> >Car shoppers are a tiny proportion of shoppers on Oxford Street.
> >
> >> They were on the radio after the first year or
> >> whatever saying bizz down 10% or something. I still shop there
> >> weekends, Selfridges have a car park for account holders.
> >
> >The solution is blindingly obvious.
>
> He should get a Rolls and employ a blonde bimbo chauffeur?
It's a small charge for a big spender. (I don't think people drive to
Oxford Street to buy a toothbrush.) Selfridges could pay the congestion
charge. I think it's bullshit. The kind of person who drives to
Selfridges usually lives in the charging zone.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
