LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
Aug 26th 2005 | 2:22 pm
#91
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
"AK" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by the
> airlines.
> Airline pays airport for this service.
> AK
Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
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> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by the
> airlines.
> Airline pays airport for this service.
> AK
Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
Aug 26th 2005 | 4:24 pm
#92
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
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> "AK" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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>> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by the
>> airlines.
>> Airline pays airport for this service.
>> AK
> Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
> staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
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> "AK" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by the
>> airlines.
>> Airline pays airport for this service.
>> AK
> Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
> staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
Aug 26th 2005 | 6:54 pm
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
"Markku Grönroos" wrote:
> > Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
> > staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
> In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
Costs.
Take Air Canada as an example. In Toronto, they have lots of flights
and it is cheaper for them to have their own luggage and ground handling
service (which they can resell to partner airlines and make money). But
in Sydney Australia, where they have just one flight per day, they can't
justify having their own ground staff so they contract with ground
handling companies to take care of their flight.
There are companies that specialise in ground handling at airports. They
vary by continent. Airport actually rarely provide the ground handling
service, but they do charge for use of luggage belts and luggage sorting.
So airline pays airport to use the luggage belts, then pay some ground
handling company to bring luggage from the make-up room to the aircraft
(as well as refueling, towing, cleaning, catering etc etc).
Many airlines used to have their own catering operations and have since
spun that off and outsourced their catering (BA at Heathrow being a good example).
And example of ground handling company is Globe Ground
(http://www.globeground.com ) They purchased in 1999 one of the most
omnipresent ground handling companmy in north america : Hudson General.
They are also known as Servisair.
> > Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
> > staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
> In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
Costs.
Take Air Canada as an example. In Toronto, they have lots of flights
and it is cheaper for them to have their own luggage and ground handling
service (which they can resell to partner airlines and make money). But
in Sydney Australia, where they have just one flight per day, they can't
justify having their own ground staff so they contract with ground
handling companies to take care of their flight.
There are companies that specialise in ground handling at airports. They
vary by continent. Airport actually rarely provide the ground handling
service, but they do charge for use of luggage belts and luggage sorting.
So airline pays airport to use the luggage belts, then pay some ground
handling company to bring luggage from the make-up room to the aircraft
(as well as refueling, towing, cleaning, catering etc etc).
Many airlines used to have their own catering operations and have since
spun that off and outsourced their catering (BA at Heathrow being a good example).
And example of ground handling company is Globe Ground
(http://www.globeground.com ) They purchased in 1999 one of the most
omnipresent ground handling companmy in north america : Hudson General.
They are also known as Servisair.
Aug 27th 2005 | 2:09 am
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
> >> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by the
> >> airlines.
> >> Airline pays airport for this service.
> >> AK
> > Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
> > staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
> In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
Perhaps the airlines might save some money by handling
luggage themselves? This is only a guess on my part.
> >> airlines.
> >> Airline pays airport for this service.
> >> AK
> > Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
> > staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
> In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
Perhaps the airlines might save some money by handling
luggage themselves? This is only a guess on my part.
Aug 27th 2005 | 8:35 am
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<[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet news:[email protected]...
>> >> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by
>> >> the
>> >> airlines.
>> >> Airline pays airport for this service.
>> >> AK
>> > Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their
>> > own
>> > staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
>> In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
> Perhaps the airlines might save some money by handling
> luggage themselves? This is only a guess on my part.
Yes that's obviously one reason. Security is another and AFAIK El Al
always prefer to handle the luggage themselves as long as possible.
Quality may be another reason if talking about bad organized airports.
>> >> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by
>> >> the
>> >> airlines.
>> >> Airline pays airport for this service.
>> >> AK
>> > Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their
>> > own
>> > staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
>> In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
> Perhaps the airlines might save some money by handling
> luggage themselves? This is only a guess on my part.
Yes that's obviously one reason. Security is another and AFAIK El Al
always prefer to handle the luggage themselves as long as possible.
Quality may be another reason if talking about bad organized airports.
Aug 27th 2005 | 3:44 pm
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
x-no-archive: yes
nobody wrote:
> "Markku Grönroos" wrote:
>
>>>Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
>>>staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
>>In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
>
>
>
> Costs.
>
> Take Air Canada as an example. In Toronto, they have lots of flights
> and it is cheaper for them to have their own luggage and ground handling
> service (which they can resell to partner airlines and make money). But
> in Sydney Australia, where they have just one flight per day, they can't
> justify having their own ground staff so they contract with ground
> handling companies to take care of their flight.
Maybe they can't justify flying there at all?
>
> There are companies that specialise in ground handling at airports. They
> vary by continent. Airport actually rarely provide the ground handling
> service, but they do charge for use of luggage belts and luggage sorting.
>
> So airline pays airport to use the luggage belts, then pay some ground
> handling company to bring luggage from the make-up room to the aircraft
> (as well as refueling, towing, cleaning, catering etc etc).
>
> Many airlines used to have their own catering operations and have since
> spun that off and outsourced their catering (BA at Heathrow being a good example).
>
> And example of ground handling company is Globe Ground
> (http://www.globeground.com ) They purchased in 1999 one of the most
> omnipresent ground handling companmy in north america : Hudson General.
> They are also known as Servisair.
nobody wrote:
> "Markku Grönroos" wrote:
>
>>>Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
>>>staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
>>In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
>
>
>
> Costs.
>
> Take Air Canada as an example. In Toronto, they have lots of flights
> and it is cheaper for them to have their own luggage and ground handling
> service (which they can resell to partner airlines and make money). But
> in Sydney Australia, where they have just one flight per day, they can't
> justify having their own ground staff so they contract with ground
> handling companies to take care of their flight.
Maybe they can't justify flying there at all?
>
> There are companies that specialise in ground handling at airports. They
> vary by continent. Airport actually rarely provide the ground handling
> service, but they do charge for use of luggage belts and luggage sorting.
>
> So airline pays airport to use the luggage belts, then pay some ground
> handling company to bring luggage from the make-up room to the aircraft
> (as well as refueling, towing, cleaning, catering etc etc).
>
> Many airlines used to have their own catering operations and have since
> spun that off and outsourced their catering (BA at Heathrow being a good example).
>
> And example of ground handling company is Globe Ground
> (http://www.globeground.com ) They purchased in 1999 one of the most
> omnipresent ground handling companmy in north america : Hudson General.
> They are also known as Servisair.
Aug 27th 2005 | 5:26 pm
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
In message <bqaQe.2104$Uz2.1547@trnddc02> "Hydronim G. Rzeczny"
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>x-no-archive: yes
Got something to hide?
>nobody wrote:
>> "Markku Grönroos" wrote:
>>
>>>>Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
>>>>staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
>>>In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
>>
>>
>>
>> Costs.
>>
>> Take Air Canada as an example. In Toronto, they have lots of flights
>> and it is cheaper for them to have their own luggage and ground handling
>> service (which they can resell to partner airlines and make money). But
>> in Sydney Australia, where they have just one flight per day, they can't
>> justify having their own ground staff so they contract with ground
>> handling companies to take care of their flight.
>Maybe they can't justify flying there at all?
But yet they do, which means they apparently CAN justify flying there.
However, for a single flight daily it's not worth keeping baggage
handling staff on-site.
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The rest, I just squander.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes
Got something to hide?
>nobody wrote:
>> "Markku Grönroos" wrote:
>>
>>>>Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
>>>>staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
>>>In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
>>
>>
>>
>> Costs.
>>
>> Take Air Canada as an example. In Toronto, they have lots of flights
>> and it is cheaper for them to have their own luggage and ground handling
>> service (which they can resell to partner airlines and make money). But
>> in Sydney Australia, where they have just one flight per day, they can't
>> justify having their own ground staff so they contract with ground
>> handling companies to take care of their flight.
>Maybe they can't justify flying there at all?
But yet they do, which means they apparently CAN justify flying there.
However, for a single flight daily it's not worth keeping baggage
handling staff on-site.
--
I spend a lot of my money on drinks, babes and fast cars.
The rest, I just squander.
Aug 27th 2005 | 6:45 pm
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
DevilsPGD wrote:
> In message <bqaQe.2104$Uz2.1547@trnddc02> "Hydronim G. Rzeczny"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>
>
> Got something to hide?
>
He might be afraid of pissing off "nomen"
> In message <bqaQe.2104$Uz2.1547@trnddc02> "Hydronim G. Rzeczny"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>
>
> Got something to hide?
>
He might be afraid of pissing off "nomen"
Aug 27th 2005 | 7:33 pm
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
> LOT is not serving Chicago-Vienna.
> Poland has problem not only with
> PLL LOT, and everything is thanks to
> bandit Hitler, murderer Stalin and
> traitor Roosevelt.
> Just to remember...
> wk
Blame everyone but yourself, ****face.
> Poland has problem not only with
> PLL LOT, and everything is thanks to
> bandit Hitler, murderer Stalin and
> traitor Roosevelt.
> Just to remember...
> wk
Blame everyone but yourself, ****face.
Aug 28th 2005 | 1:46 am
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
"nobody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Markku Grönroos" wrote:
> > > Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their
own
> > > staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
> > In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
> Costs.
> Many airlines used to have their own catering operations and have since
> spun that off and outsourced their catering (BA at Heathrow being a good
example).
Good example (BA at Heathrow) does not mean Good.
8=))
retired/uk.
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because we're not foreign"
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> "Markku Grönroos" wrote:
> > > Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their
own
> > > staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
> > In what way is it in airlines interest to do so?
> Costs.
> Many airlines used to have their own catering operations and have since
> spun that off and outsourced their catering (BA at Heathrow being a good
example).
Good example (BA at Heathrow) does not mean Good.
8=))
retired/uk.
--
Ken Dodd (the Sage of Knotty Ash) once said:
"We British have an advantage over other people
because we're not foreign"
Sep 4th 2005 | 7:10 am
#101
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Re: LOT Airlines must be one of the worst airlines around
nonsense in case of small airline abroad, not LOT in US or Canada.
ak
"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "AK" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by the
>> airlines.
>> Airline pays airport for this service.
>> AK
> Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
> staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
>
ak
"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "AK" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>> For your information, luggage handling is done by airport!!! NOT by the
>> airlines.
>> Airline pays airport for this service.
>> AK
> Not true. Some airlines may prefer to handle the luggage with their own
> staff, others prefer to pay for the airport service.
>
