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Old May 11th 2007, 5:42 pm
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Mister Bartlett
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:07:04 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Flying is not supposed to be a pleasant experience.
> >
> > Yes it is, dammit. If I'm going to be in a damn flying tube for eight
> > hours, I don't want it to be some horrible overpacked trip.
>
> Overpacked is at least better, in terms of environment. I've never
> understood why carpooling wasn't a better option in the UK. So many
> single drivers look pissed off every morning as I walk past them during
> rush hour, as they're at a standstill. They could probably car pool and
> slice the rush hour traffic.

Seems a good idea till you try it. I once carpool'ed with a woman who
started playing cassettes of Xmas music in mid November, and spent half
the trip putting on her make-up, whether she was driving or not :-(

Van-pooling was good though - and gave a perfect excuse to leave at 5 on
the dot.

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Old May 11th 2007, 5:44 pm
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Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:

> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Martin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more
> > leg room.
> > >
> > > That is pretty big of them. The first time I flew to Europe I went
> > > with Air Transat and felt like a sardine for 9 hours. The next time I
> > > went I paid $300 more to fly with KLM with the hope that it would be a
> > > more comfortable flight. It wasn't. It was as cramped as Air Transat
> > > had been, and it was three hours late leaving. The next time I flew
> > > with Air Canada and had a comfortable flight that flew on schedule.
> >
> > I've never felt cramped on a plane for legroom, no matter what I paid.
> > An advantage of being short- I always have legroom, often even when I
> > put my carryon under the seat in front. The only times I feel squeezed
> > is when I'm sitting next to a very large person.
>
> Like that fat bastard DFM? :-)

I didn't think he was fat?

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Old May 11th 2007, 5:44 pm
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Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:

> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:07:04 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Flying is not supposed to be a pleasant experience.
> > >
> > > Yes it is, dammit. If I'm going to be in a damn flying tube for eight
> > > hours, I don't want it to be some horrible overpacked trip.
> >
> > Overpacked is at least better, in terms of environment. I've never
> > understood why carpooling wasn't a better option in the UK. So many
> > single drivers look pissed off every morning as I walk past them during
> > rush hour, as they're at a standstill. They could probably car pool and
> > slice the rush hour traffic.
>
> Seems a good idea till you try it. I once carpool'ed with a woman who
> started playing cassettes of Xmas music in mid November, and spent half
> the trip putting on her make-up, whether she was driving or not :-(

You should have car pooled with The Reid!

> Van-pooling was good though - and gave a perfect excuse to leave at 5 on
> the dot.

A 4-person car pool is probably the best, in terms of controlling
behaviour!

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Old May 11th 2007, 5:55 pm
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:44:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>> Like that fat bastard DFM? :-)
>
>I didn't think he was fat?

Looks very trim to me, judging from the photos on his web site.
 
Old May 11th 2007, 5:55 pm
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Viking <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:44:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> Like that fat bastard DFM? :-)
> >
> >I didn't think he was fat?
>
> Looks very trim to me, judging from the photos on his web site.

<woosh>

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Old May 11th 2007, 6:01 pm
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:55:29 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:44:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> Like that fat bastard DFM? :-)
>> >
>> >I didn't think he was fat?
>>
>> Looks very trim to me, judging from the photos on his web site.
>
><woosh>

No, I also don't think he's a bastard.
 
Old May 11th 2007, 6:03 pm
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Viking <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:55:29 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:44:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Like that fat bastard DFM? :-)
> >> >
> >> >I didn't think he was fat?
> >>
> >> Looks very trim to me, judging from the photos on his web site.
> >
> ><woosh>
>
> No, I also don't think he's a bastard.

Good for you. Anyway, that's enough for me on the subject. Bye.

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Old May 11th 2007, 6:55 pm
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martin in full spam

"Jacqueline" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:47:07 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:42:24 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Martin:
>>>
>>>> Another good question is what legal right do security have to
>>>> confiscate and keep property? They have a legal right to stop you
>>>> boarding with forbidden items but ...
>>>
>>>Would you have a practical solution, then? What can they do?
>>>- refuse to let you through while you have those items in possession
>>>- confiscate them and give you a receipt...they should return the items
>>>(unless illegal items like weapons you're not entitled to carry, but then
>>>they would have to arrest you) upon request when you return.
>>
>>Two bins one labeled
>>
>>" I donate this to <the charity that Schiphol refuses to hand over
>>confiscated
>>goods too>
>>
>>the other labeled
>>
>>"Arriving passengers help yourselves"
>>
>>>Come to think of it: in 1985, when I visited Russia, I wasn't allowed to
>>>bring Russian money back with me. So, I had to empty my wallet and give
>>>them my rubles. I still have the receipt.
>>>If I returned within 10 years, they would give me the money upon showing
>>>the receipt.
>
> When KLM makes the seats cheaper for 'clowns', you must be a very
> lucky man, Martin!
 
Old May 11th 2007, 7:58 pm
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Make credence recognised that on Fri, 11 May 2007 18:44:46 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) has scripted:

>Mister Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Martin wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more
>> > leg room.
>> > >
>> > > That is pretty big of them. The first time I flew to Europe I went
>> > > with Air Transat and felt like a sardine for 9 hours. The next time I
>> > > went I paid $300 more to fly with KLM with the hope that it would be a
>> > > more comfortable flight. It wasn't. It was as cramped as Air Transat
>> > > had been, and it was three hours late leaving. The next time I flew
>> > > with Air Canada and had a comfortable flight that flew on schedule.
>> >
>> > I've never felt cramped on a plane for legroom, no matter what I paid.
>> > An advantage of being short- I always have legroom, often even when I
>> > put my carryon under the seat in front. The only times I feel squeezed
>> > is when I'm sitting next to a very large person.
>>
>> Like that fat bastard DFM? :-)
>
>I didn't think he was fat?

He's not fat, he's just BIG! I saw a photo of me the other day with a
few Italians, and my shoulders are about 50% wider than theirs, and
I'm taller than any of them.

At least in the bog I'm about average.
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Old May 11th 2007, 7:59 pm
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Make credence recognised that on Fri, 11 May 2007 14:01:00 -0400,
Viking <[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:55:29 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:44:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Like that fat bastard DFM? :-)
>>> >
>>> >I didn't think he was fat?
>>>
>>> Looks very trim to me, judging from the photos on his web site.
>>
>><woosh>
>
>No, I also don't think he's a bastard.

Viking, I hate to tell you this, but I am a total bastard. Folks have
plenty of good reasons not to like me here!
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Old May 11th 2007, 8:01 pm
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 21:59:19 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>>No, I also don't think he's a bastard.
>
>Viking, I hate to tell you this, but I am a total bastard. Folks have
>plenty of good reasons not to like me here!

Well, now, I can't believe that.
 
Old May 11th 2007, 8:12 pm
  #42  
Mister Bartlett
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Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:

> Make credence recognised that on Fri, 11 May 2007 14:01:00 -0400,
> Viking <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
> >On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:55:29 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >
> >>Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:44:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >> Like that fat bastard DFM? :-)
> >>> >
> >>> >I didn't think he was fat?
> >>>
> >>> Looks very trim to me, judging from the photos on his web site.
> >>
> >><woosh>
> >
> >No, I also don't think he's a bastard.
>
> Viking, I hate to tell you this, but I am a total bastard. Folks have
> plenty of good reasons not to like me here!

See - I *told* you he's a bastard!

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Old May 11th 2007, 8:17 pm
  #43  
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"Martin" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:20:10 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Martin:
>>
>>> Charges will be introduced for guaranteeing not to put your "see
>>> through body scan" pictures on utube.com
>>
>>Who owns the rights to those pictures, anyway?
>
> A good question. Some scope for making money with advertising slogans
> using zinc
> dust?
> Another good question is what legal right do security have to confiscate
> and
> keep property? They have a legal right to stop you boarding with forbidden
> items
> but ...
> Martin
>
What's legal may differ from country to country but generally I think
they've no such rights. By mistake I had a pair of miniscissors left
in my luggage when Ryan advised me take the bag as handluggage. The
security in LÌbeck found it and told me it was forbidden in handluggage and
I could check in the bag.
O.k "throw it away" i said. "No,you must do it" was the answer so I had
to throw it in a bin personally.
When stricter rules applied after 9/11 we faced some problems at our
mailterminal as a lot of passengers from Stockholm-Arlanda airport choose to
send back refused items in envelopes back to themselves.
 
Old May 11th 2007, 9:31 pm
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Make credence recognised that on Fri, 11 May 2007 13:25:45 +0200,
Martin <[email protected]> has scripted:

>On 11 May 2007 04:18:52 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On May 11, 11:16 am, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Martin
>>
>>At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
>>might have been Virgin.
>
>A surcharge for those with short legs, who travel in comfort next?

How about a surcharge for whinging wankers who are also complete
tightarses? Oh yeah, so you want more leg room? Pay for it, then.

Oh, you mean you want it as a right?

If (fat/big bastard) I can deal with cattle class, why can't everyone
else?
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Old May 11th 2007, 9:50 pm
  #45  
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Martin wrote:

> On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:33:46 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>
>>Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 11 May 2007 19:07:04 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Flying is not supposed to be a pleasant experience.
>>>
>>>Yes it is, dammit. If I'm going to be in a damn flying tube for eight
>>>hours, I don't want it to be some horrible overpacked trip.
>>
>>Overpacked is at least better, in terms of environment. I've never
>>understood why carpooling wasn't a better option in the UK. So many
>>single drivers look pissed off every morning as I walk past them during
>>rush hour, as they're at a standstill. They could probably car pool and
>>slice the rush hour traffic.
>
>
> Mainly because people don't all work exactly the same hours or hasn't flexitime
> arrived in the UK yet?

I have often thought it amusing that flextime which is intended to
reduce traffic tends to promote individual drivers.
 


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