KLM and emergency exit seats
May 11th 2007, 10:16 am
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KLM and emergency exit seats
KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
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May 11th 2007, 11:18 am
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Re: KLM and emergency exit seats
On May 11, 11:16 am, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
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> Martin
At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
might have been Virgin.
> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
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> Martin
At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
might have been Virgin.
May 11th 2007, 11:25 am
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Re: KLM and emergency exit seats
On 11 May 2007 04:18:52 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>On May 11, 11:16 am, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
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>> Martin
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>At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
>might have been Virgin.
A surcharge for those with short legs, who travel in comfort next?
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>On May 11, 11:16 am, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
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>> Martin
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>At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
>might have been Virgin.
A surcharge for those with short legs, who travel in comfort next?
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May 11th 2007, 12:11 pm
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On 11 mei, 12:16, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
I'll charge them for acting as potential evacuation assistant, then.
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> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
I'll charge them for acting as potential evacuation assistant, then.
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May 11th 2007, 1:09 pm
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11 May 2007 04:18:52 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
> >might have been Virgin.
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> A surcharge for those with short legs, who travel in comfort next?
I hope not!
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> On 11 May 2007 04:18:52 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
> >might have been Virgin.
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> A surcharge for those with short legs, who travel in comfort next?
I hope not!
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May 11th 2007, 1:39 pm
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Re: KLM and emergency exit seats
On Fri, 11 May 2007 14:09:57 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 11 May 2007 04:18:52 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> >At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
>> >might have been Virgin.
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>> A surcharge for those with short legs, who travel in comfort next?
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>I hope not!
I have a better idea that will be a real money earner, rows of seats with
minimum spacing, just too small for the small to sit comfortably and an extra
couple of seats in each row. If this is a success, then KLM will introduce
double decker rows for the vertically challenged. 10 Euro coin metres will be
fitted to all toilet doors.
There are tentative plans to transfer up to 4 million passengers a year from
Schiphol to Lelystadt Airport. Enjoy changing flights :-)
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chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 11 May 2007 04:18:52 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> >At least one other airline I've recently used did this - I think it
>> >might have been Virgin.
>>
>> A surcharge for those with short legs, who travel in comfort next?
>
>I hope not!
I have a better idea that will be a real money earner, rows of seats with
minimum spacing, just too small for the small to sit comfortably and an extra
couple of seats in each row. If this is a success, then KLM will introduce
double decker rows for the vertically challenged. 10 Euro coin metres will be
fitted to all toilet doors.
There are tentative plans to transfer up to 4 million passengers a year from
Schiphol to Lelystadt Airport. Enjoy changing flights :-)
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May 11th 2007, 1:40 pm
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Re: KLM and emergency exit seats
On 11 May 2007 05:11:56 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>On 11 mei, 12:16, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
>
>I'll charge them for acting as potential evacuation assistant, then.
Do you know how much the throw away windows weigh?
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>On 11 mei, 12:16, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
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>I'll charge them for acting as potential evacuation assistant, then.
Do you know how much the throw away windows weigh?
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May 11th 2007, 1:59 pm
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Martin:
> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
While I consider 50 euros a bit steep, I think it's not really
unreasonable to charge more for additional space.
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> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
While I consider 50 euros a bit steep, I think it's not really
unreasonable to charge more for additional space.
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[1m97, 36" inseam, so one of the victims]
May 11th 2007, 2:04 pm
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 15:59:44 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin:
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>> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
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>While I consider 50 euros a bit steep, I think it's not really
>unreasonable to charge more for additional space.
We are already charged for less space.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin:
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>> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
>
>While I consider 50 euros a bit steep, I think it's not really
>unreasonable to charge more for additional space.
We are already charged for less space.
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May 11th 2007, 2:07 pm
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Martin:
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 15:59:44 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >Martin:
> >
> >> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
> >
> >While I consider 50 euros a bit steep, I think it's not really
> >unreasonable to charge more for additional space.
>
> We are already charged for less space.
I didn't claim that such measure (pun intended) was reasonable.
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 15:59:44 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >Martin:
> >
> >> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
> >
> >While I consider 50 euros a bit steep, I think it's not really
> >unreasonable to charge more for additional space.
>
> We are already charged for less space.
I didn't claim that such measure (pun intended) was reasonable.
May 11th 2007, 2:12 pm
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:07:37 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin:
>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 15:59:44 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Martin:
>> >
>> >> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
>> >
>> >While I consider 50 euros a bit steep, I think it's not really
>> >unreasonable to charge more for additional space.
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>> We are already charged for less space.
>
>I didn't claim that such measure (pun intended) was reasonable.
Charges will be introduced for guaranteeing not to put your "see through body
scan" pictures on utube.com
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin:
>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 15:59:44 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> >Martin:
>> >
>> >> KLM plan to introduce a EUR 50 charge for use of seats providing more leg room.
>> >
>> >While I consider 50 euros a bit steep, I think it's not really
>> >unreasonable to charge more for additional space.
>>
>> We are already charged for less space.
>
>I didn't claim that such measure (pun intended) was reasonable.
Charges will be introduced for guaranteeing not to put your "see through body
scan" pictures on utube.com
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May 11th 2007, 2:20 pm
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Martin:
> Charges will be introduced for guaranteeing not to put your "see
> through body scan" pictures on utube.com
Who owns the rights to those pictures, anyway?
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> Charges will be introduced for guaranteeing not to put your "see
> through body scan" pictures on utube.com
Who owns the rights to those pictures, anyway?
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May 11th 2007, 2:33 pm
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Re: KLM and emergency exit seats
On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:20:10 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin:
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>> Charges will be introduced for guaranteeing not to put your "see
>> through body scan" pictures on utube.com
>
>Who owns the rights to those pictures, anyway?
A good question. Some scope for making money with advertising slogans using zinc
dust?
Another good question is what legal right do security have to confiscate and
keep property? They have a legal right to stop you boarding with forbidden items
but ...
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Martin:
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>> Charges will be introduced for guaranteeing not to put your "see
>> through body scan" pictures on utube.com
>
>Who owns the rights to those pictures, anyway?
A good question. Some scope for making money with advertising slogans using zinc
dust?
Another good question is what legal right do security have to confiscate and
keep property? They have a legal right to stop you boarding with forbidden items
but ...
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May 11th 2007, 2:39 pm
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Re: KLM and emergency exit seats
[email protected]lid (Martin) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Another good question is what legal right do security have to
> confiscate and keep property? They have a legal right to stop you
> boarding with forbidden items but ...
I suppose (with nothing to back that up) you could simply take your
contraband and leave, missing your flight.
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news:[email protected]:
> Another good question is what legal right do security have to
> confiscate and keep property? They have a legal right to stop you
> boarding with forbidden items but ...
I suppose (with nothing to back that up) you could simply take your
contraband and leave, missing your flight.
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May 11th 2007, 2:42 pm
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Martin:
> Another good question is what legal right do security have to
> confiscate and keep property? They have a legal right to stop you
> boarding with forbidden items but ...
Would you have a practical solution, then? What can they do?
- refuse to let you through while you have those items in possession
- confiscate them and give you a receipt...they should return the items
(unless illegal items like weapons you're not entitled to carry, but then
they would have to arrest you) upon request when you return.
Come to think of it: in 1985, when I visited Russia, I wasn't allowed to
bring Russian money back with me. So, I had to empty my wallet and give
them my rubles. I still have the receipt.
If I returned within 10 years, they would give me the money upon showing
the receipt.
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> Another good question is what legal right do security have to
> confiscate and keep property? They have a legal right to stop you
> boarding with forbidden items but ...
Would you have a practical solution, then? What can they do?
- refuse to let you through while you have those items in possession
- confiscate them and give you a receipt...they should return the items
(unless illegal items like weapons you're not entitled to carry, but then
they would have to arrest you) upon request when you return.
Come to think of it: in 1985, when I visited Russia, I wasn't allowed to
bring Russian money back with me. So, I had to empty my wallet and give
them my rubles. I still have the receipt.
If I returned within 10 years, they would give me the money upon showing
the receipt.
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Erick