how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
Apr 7th 2005 | 6:57 am
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how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
damage my device?
Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
Thanks.
Rocket
I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
damage my device?
Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
Thanks.
Rocket
Apr 7th 2005 | 7:53 am
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
"rocket" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1112900254.060068.167370
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
> Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
>
> I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
> in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
> outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
>
> First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
> damage my device?
>
> Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rocket
>
Assuming that you could find such an adapter, you would still have a lot of
trouble finding the outlet. In any given US house there are two such, one
for the dryer and one for the stove. Aside from the inconvenience of moving
said objects, you won't have acess in a hotel room. If you are in a house
they probably already have a hair dryer and if you buy one, well it would
be a good idea to adapt to the teechnology around you just as Americans
must do when traveling abraod.
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
> Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
>
> I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
> in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
> outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
>
> First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
> damage my device?
>
> Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rocket
>
Assuming that you could find such an adapter, you would still have a lot of
trouble finding the outlet. In any given US house there are two such, one
for the dryer and one for the stove. Aside from the inconvenience of moving
said objects, you won't have acess in a hotel room. If you are in a house
they probably already have a hair dryer and if you buy one, well it would
be a good idea to adapt to the teechnology around you just as Americans
must do when traveling abraod.
Apr 7th 2005 | 9:40 am
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
Buy a male plug that matches the dryer. Buy two or three feet of 10-3 wire
with ground. Buy a female plug that matches your device. Wire the two plugs
together, and plug the male into the dryer outlet with your device plugged
into the female.
--
Marvin & Sue
with ground. Buy a female plug that matches your device. Wire the two plugs
together, and plug the male into the dryer outlet with your device plugged
into the female.
--
Marvin & Sue
Apr 7th 2005 | 9:53 am
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
In article <[email protected]>, Marvin <[email protected]> wrote:
>Buy a male plug that matches the dryer. Buy two or three feet of 10-3 wire
>with ground. Buy a female plug that matches your device. Wire the two plugs
>together, and plug the male into the dryer outlet with your device plugged
>into the female.
Don't forget to attach some sort of timer to the configuration as well,
so you have time to get as far away as possible before the thing
blows ;-)
>Buy a male plug that matches the dryer. Buy two or three feet of 10-3 wire
>with ground. Buy a female plug that matches your device. Wire the two plugs
>together, and plug the male into the dryer outlet with your device plugged
>into the female.
Don't forget to attach some sort of timer to the configuration as well,
so you have time to get as far away as possible before the thing
blows ;-)
Apr 7th 2005 | 11:49 am
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
Bill wrote:
>Don't forget to attach some sort of timer to the configuration as well,
>so you have time to get as far away as possible before the thing
>blows ;-)
Explain to me why it would blow. If it is a 220 device it would certainly
work on 220. The only problem would be if it was 50 cycle only [doubtful],
then it would eventually burn the motor but it most certainly would not
BLOW!
--
Marvin & Sue
>Don't forget to attach some sort of timer to the configuration as well,
>so you have time to get as far away as possible before the thing
>blows ;-)
Explain to me why it would blow. If it is a 220 device it would certainly
work on 220. The only problem would be if it was 50 cycle only [doubtful],
then it would eventually burn the motor but it most certainly would not
BLOW!
--
Marvin & Sue
Apr 7th 2005 | 12:02 pm
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
In article <[email protected]>, Marvin <[email protected]> wrote:
>Bill wrote:
>>Don't forget to attach some sort of timer to the configuration as well,
>>so you have time to get as far away as possible before the thing
>>blows ;-)
>Explain to me why it would blow. If it is a 220 device it would certainly
>work on 220. The only problem would be if it was 50 cycle only [doubtful],
>then it would eventually burn the motor but it most certainly would not
>BLOW!
Just joking (thus the ;-), though I wouldn't recommend the inexperienced
to play around with electrical devices and wires that way.
>Bill wrote:
>>Don't forget to attach some sort of timer to the configuration as well,
>>so you have time to get as far away as possible before the thing
>>blows ;-)
>Explain to me why it would blow. If it is a 220 device it would certainly
>work on 220. The only problem would be if it was 50 cycle only [doubtful],
>then it would eventually burn the motor but it most certainly would not
>BLOW!
Just joking (thus the ;-), though I wouldn't recommend the inexperienced
to play around with electrical devices and wires that way.
Apr 7th 2005 | 1:11 pm
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
bill wrote again:
>though I wouldn't recommend the inexperienced
>to play around with electrical devices and wires that way.
Why not?? Making an adapter like the OP wanted is not rocket science. You
will be hooking up three wires [the ground does not have to be used in this
instance] that are red, black and white. Every plug I have seen in this
country has terminals marked x, y and w. You hook the red and black wires to
the x and y terminal [ they can be used with either one]; and the white
[neutral] goes to the terminal marked w.
--
Marvin & Sue
>though I wouldn't recommend the inexperienced
>to play around with electrical devices and wires that way.
Why not?? Making an adapter like the OP wanted is not rocket science. You
will be hooking up three wires [the ground does not have to be used in this
instance] that are red, black and white. Every plug I have seen in this
country has terminals marked x, y and w. You hook the red and black wires to
the x and y terminal [ they can be used with either one]; and the white
[neutral] goes to the terminal marked w.
--
Marvin & Sue
Apr 7th 2005 | 2:11 pm
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
"Bill Moore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Don't forget to attach some sort of timer to the configuration as well,
> so you have time to get as far away as possible before the thing
> blows ;-)
Only if the person doing the wiring is a complete nincompoop, in which case
they can't wire the timer either. There are a couple of potential problems.
First is the frequency. There could be a problem changing the frequency from
50 to 60 Hz. The other is that "220V" is sometimes 234V and sometimes 208V.
It depends if the building is wired from a two or three-phase main.
--
Donald Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
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> Don't forget to attach some sort of timer to the configuration as well,
> so you have time to get as far away as possible before the thing
> blows ;-)
Only if the person doing the wiring is a complete nincompoop, in which case
they can't wire the timer either. There are a couple of potential problems.
First is the frequency. There could be a problem changing the frequency from
50 to 60 Hz. The other is that "220V" is sometimes 234V and sometimes 208V.
It depends if the building is wired from a two or three-phase main.
--
Donald Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
Apr 7th 2005 | 3:07 pm
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:40:15 -0400, "Marvin" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Buy a male plug that matches the dryer. Buy two or three feet of 10-3 wire
>with ground. Buy a female plug that matches your device. Wire the two plugs
>together, and plug the male into the dryer outlet with your device plugged
>into the female.
My wife just buys hair dryers that are dual voltage. The dryers
"know" what volage they're plugged into so you don't even have to
flip a switch, just use an adaptor plug.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
wrote:
>Buy a male plug that matches the dryer. Buy two or three feet of 10-3 wire
>with ground. Buy a female plug that matches your device. Wire the two plugs
>together, and plug the male into the dryer outlet with your device plugged
>into the female.
My wife just buys hair dryers that are dual voltage. The dryers
"know" what volage they're plugged into so you don't even have to
flip a switch, just use an adaptor plug.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Apr 7th 2005 | 10:01 pm
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
The plug is probably a 3 or 4 wire, 4 is newer. You should beable to
find the plug and cord at an appliance store. That store will end in
wires so you could then get an adapter and attach it, then plug your
device into that. Check the applicance stores some of the better ones
may already have the 3 or 4 prong to standard US adapter already, then
it will be really easy.
If you do built it yourself you will need a volt meter to test it.
And use the correct guage(#10 probably) of wiring for your cable.
One other major thing. The average fuse and wiring in the house is
designed at 15 or 20 amp depending on who built it. The fuse/wiring
for dryers and electric ranges are design for 30 to 50 amps. So an
electrical problem in your device that would normally blow the fuse may
not happen, so be careful.
Also the while the voltage will be 220-240 but the frequency will still
be at 60 hertz.
find the plug and cord at an appliance store. That store will end in
wires so you could then get an adapter and attach it, then plug your
device into that. Check the applicance stores some of the better ones
may already have the 3 or 4 prong to standard US adapter already, then
it will be really easy.
If you do built it yourself you will need a volt meter to test it.
And use the correct guage(#10 probably) of wiring for your cable.
One other major thing. The average fuse and wiring in the house is
designed at 15 or 20 amp depending on who built it. The fuse/wiring
for dryers and electric ranges are design for 30 to 50 amps. So an
electrical problem in your device that would normally blow the fuse may
not happen, so be careful.
Also the while the voltage will be 220-240 but the frequency will still
be at 60 hertz.
Apr 7th 2005 | 10:52 pm
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Real solution was Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
"rocket" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1112900254.060068.167370
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
> Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
>
> I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
> in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
> outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
>
> First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
> damage my device?
>
> Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rocket
>
>
Let us look at it from a practical standpoint. making a 220 converter plug
is going to cost money, why not just buy a cheap 120v hair dryer?
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
> Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
>
> I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
> in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
> outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
>
> First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
> damage my device?
>
> Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rocket
>
>
Let us look at it from a practical standpoint. making a 220 converter plug
is going to cost money, why not just buy a cheap 120v hair dryer?
Apr 7th 2005 | 11:55 pm
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Re: Real solution was Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
"jcoulter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "rocket" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1112900254.060068.167370
> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
> > Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
> >
> > I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
> > in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
> > outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
> >
> > First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
> > damage my device?
> >
> > Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Rocket
> >
> >
> Let us look at it from a practical standpoint. making a 220 converter plug
> is going to cost money, why not just buy a cheap 120v hair dryer?
Because the device in question isn't a hair dryer? Not at 200W it isn't.
T.
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> "rocket" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1112900254.060068.167370
> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
> > Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
> >
> > I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
> > in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
> > outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
> >
> > First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
> > damage my device?
> >
> > Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Rocket
> >
> >
> Let us look at it from a practical standpoint. making a 220 converter plug
> is going to cost money, why not just buy a cheap 120v hair dryer?
Because the device in question isn't a hair dryer? Not at 200W it isn't.
T.
Apr 8th 2005 | 12:06 am
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
"rocket" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
> I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
> in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
> outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
> First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
> damage my device?
> Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
> Thanks.
> Rocket
It's not *really* stupid because it will work. :)
However, it is stupid because:
1) You are not going to find an adapter for a dryer or stove outlet to a
standard European consumer outlet. You will have to make your own.
2) The outlet will be fused at 30 or 40 amps and you will be drawing less
than 1 amp. If something goes wrong with your "device" you will have 29 - 39
spare amps to do damage with before the breaker trips.
3) The voltage isn't 0 and +220, it is +/- 120. 99.9% of "devices" don't
care but it is theoretically possible that your "device" has the case
connected to neutral which will now be at 120v! No commercially made modern
device will be like this but I don't know what you are planning to connect.
You can get away with doing this *if* you know what you are doing. If you
did, you wouldn't be asking the question...
T.
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
> I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
> in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
> outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
> First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
> damage my device?
> Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
> Thanks.
> Rocket
It's not *really* stupid because it will work. :)
However, it is stupid because:
1) You are not going to find an adapter for a dryer or stove outlet to a
standard European consumer outlet. You will have to make your own.
2) The outlet will be fused at 30 or 40 amps and you will be drawing less
than 1 amp. If something goes wrong with your "device" you will have 29 - 39
spare amps to do damage with before the breaker trips.
3) The voltage isn't 0 and +220, it is +/- 120. 99.9% of "devices" don't
care but it is theoretically possible that your "device" has the case
connected to neutral which will now be at 120v! No commercially made modern
device will be like this but I don't know what you are planning to connect.
You can get away with doing this *if* you know what you are doing. If you
did, you wouldn't be asking the question...
T.
Apr 8th 2005 | 5:12 am
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Re: Real solution was Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:55:27 +0200, "Terry Richards"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"jcoulter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]. ..
>> "rocket" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1112900254.060068.167370
>> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>> > Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
>> >
>> > I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
>> > in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
>> > outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
>> >
>> > First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
>> > damage my device?
>> >
>> > Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
>> Let us look at it from a practical standpoint. making a 220 converter plug
>> is going to cost money, why not just buy a cheap 120v hair dryer?
>Because the device in question isn't a hair dryer? Not at 200W it isn't.
Hm. True. Far too low a wattage for a hair dryer. What is the
device, anyway?
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"jcoulter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]. ..
>> "rocket" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1112900254.060068.167370
>> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>> > Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
>> >
>> > I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
>> > in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
>> > outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
>> >
>> > First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
>> > damage my device?
>> >
>> > Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
>> Let us look at it from a practical standpoint. making a 220 converter plug
>> is going to cost money, why not just buy a cheap 120v hair dryer?
>Because the device in question isn't a hair dryer? Not at 200W it isn't.
Hm. True. Far too low a wattage for a hair dryer. What is the
device, anyway?
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Apr 8th 2005 | 6:05 am
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Re: how to use dryer outlet in US with 220V device?
Try this link,I'm in germany and use them. for 220 to 110. Prices are
right
http://www.samstores.com/Store.asp?CtgID=119
On 7 Apr 2005 11:57:34 -0700, "rocket" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
>I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
>in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
>outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
>First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
>damage my device?
>Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
>Thanks.
>Rocket
right
http://www.samstores.com/Store.asp?CtgID=119
On 7 Apr 2005 11:57:34 -0700, "rocket" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi, I need expert's advice before I am doing something stupid:(
>I have a device from Europe which require 220v and 200 W. I know that
>in US the dryer outlet is 220V. I would like to plug my device to dryer
>outlet. However the plug does not match the dryer outlet.
>First, is this ok for me to use dryer outlet for my device?Will it
>damage my device?
>Second, if it is ok, where can I buy the plug adapter for this?
>Thanks.
>Rocket
