Honest Question
Aug 18th 2004, 1:54 am
#406
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Re: Honest Question
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:21:59 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:13:53 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:50:23 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:29:29 +0100, The Reids
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Following up to Mxsmanic
>>>>>> Not when it results in rampant consumerism and destruction of non
>>>>>> renewables.
>>>>>It doesn't result in that.
>>>>In the west if we work all the time, our work results need
>>>>consumers. As we become more efficient, instead of working less,
>>>>we produce more.
>>>
>>> The countries that introduced a 32-35 hour working week have economic
>>> problems as a result.
>>Not all of them.
>>Show me a major country that *doesn't* have economic problems?
>
> Britain?
Nice try. Say it often enough and you'll start believing it.
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Tim C.
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:13:53 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:50:23 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:29:29 +0100, The Reids
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Following up to Mxsmanic
>>>>>> Not when it results in rampant consumerism and destruction of non
>>>>>> renewables.
>>>>>It doesn't result in that.
>>>>In the west if we work all the time, our work results need
>>>>consumers. As we become more efficient, instead of working less,
>>>>we produce more.
>>>
>>> The countries that introduced a 32-35 hour working week have economic
>>> problems as a result.
>>Not all of them.
>>Show me a major country that *doesn't* have economic problems?
>
> Britain?
Nice try. Say it often enough and you'll start believing it.
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Tim C.
Aug 18th 2004, 8:00 pm
#407
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Re: Honest Question
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:30:07 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:52:09 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 23:30:54 GMT, mistissini wrote:
>>> Most workplaces that I've worked in, and I'm aware of, require the use of
>>> identity badges; many of them include smart cards.
>>I only had to wear a badge in one place (and then I had to sign the german
>>official secrets act too). Likewise a smart card only once (in another
>>company), except ones that get me into a works car-park. Most places I've
>>worked would look at you dumbly if you suggested such a thing.
>
> Everywhere I worked in the last 20 years has insisted on ID cards.
> I've lost more ID cards than I have had ...
> Some cards contained info on whether you were allowed to park on site.
>
> We used to drive into a large Italian company's site by pretending to
> swipe the card through the reader, by default the barrier was up and
> stayed up.
So there you go.
Anyone who makes the blanket statement "most companies..." etc should
always add the "...that I've worked at".
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Tim C.
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:52:09 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 23:30:54 GMT, mistissini wrote:
>>> Most workplaces that I've worked in, and I'm aware of, require the use of
>>> identity badges; many of them include smart cards.
>>I only had to wear a badge in one place (and then I had to sign the german
>>official secrets act too). Likewise a smart card only once (in another
>>company), except ones that get me into a works car-park. Most places I've
>>worked would look at you dumbly if you suggested such a thing.
>
> Everywhere I worked in the last 20 years has insisted on ID cards.
> I've lost more ID cards than I have had ...
> Some cards contained info on whether you were allowed to park on site.
>
> We used to drive into a large Italian company's site by pretending to
> swipe the card through the reader, by default the barrier was up and
> stayed up.
So there you go.
Anyone who makes the blanket statement "most companies..." etc should
always add the "...that I've worked at".
--
Tim C.
