Getting a Driver's License Is a Royal Pain in Britain
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Ricardo wrote:
> Robert Briggs wrote:
>
> > That said, I also reckon that some of them are technically
> > skillful but seem to be a bit too pushy on the roads.
>
> But we do try our damndest not to be. It's the likes of dumbassed
> LLBs and the like who make our tempers flare. They, if anyone, are
> the prime "victims" of any presupposed "pushiness".
Ricardo, were you speaking for yourself? Or for "Muggins"?
:-)
> Robert Briggs wrote:
>
> > That said, I also reckon that some of them are technically
> > skillful but seem to be a bit too pushy on the roads.
>
> But we do try our damndest not to be. It's the likes of dumbassed
> LLBs and the like who make our tempers flare. They, if anyone, are
> the prime "victims" of any presupposed "pushiness".
Ricardo, were you speaking for yourself? Or for "Muggins"?
:-)
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On Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:40:42 +0000, Robert Briggs
wrote:
>> But we do try our damndest not to be. It's the likes of dumbassed
>> LLBs and the like who make our tempers flare. They, if anyone, are
>> the prime "victims" of any presupposed "pushiness".
>Ricardo, were you speaking for yourself? Or for "Muggins"?
>:-)
Héhé...
I'm the guy in the white car tooling along uneventfully at 55mph (or
at/below whatever the po$ted speed may be), almost always in the far
right continuous lane.
"Muggins" is one of my best friends (one could even say my twin bro)
who drives a suspiciously similar white car, but often upward of 80
or 90mph on the same highways, i.e. between about the 90th and 99th
percentile of free flow. He also keeps to the right, except while
passing, and is always courteous to, and accepting of, slower
passers (within reason). He hates LLBs though. I have the same
passionate hate of LLBs myself, but since I never exceed the speed
limit, I rarely have reason to be passing anyone on a multi laned
highway. So I guess my personality is not of the particularly pushy
type.
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wrote:
>> But we do try our damndest not to be. It's the likes of dumbassed
>> LLBs and the like who make our tempers flare. They, if anyone, are
>> the prime "victims" of any presupposed "pushiness".
>Ricardo, were you speaking for yourself? Or for "Muggins"?
>:-)
Héhé...
I'm the guy in the white car tooling along uneventfully at 55mph (or
at/below whatever the po$ted speed may be), almost always in the far
right continuous lane.
"Muggins" is one of my best friends (one could even say my twin bro)
who drives a suspiciously similar white car, but often upward of 80
or 90mph on the same highways, i.e. between about the 90th and 99th
percentile of free flow. He also keeps to the right, except while
passing, and is always courteous to, and accepting of, slower
passers (within reason). He hates LLBs though. I have the same
passionate hate of LLBs myself, but since I never exceed the speed
limit, I rarely have reason to be passing anyone on a multi laned
highway. So I guess my personality is not of the particularly pushy
type.
--
ricardo, ex-euroslav
vancouver bc canada
e-mail: sovietjamaicanguy yahoo ca
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Ricardo wrote:
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> On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:51:41 +0000, Robert Briggs
> wrote:
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> >That said, I also reckon that some of them are technically skillful but
> >seem to be a bit too pushy on the roads.
>
> But we do try our damndest not to be. It's the likes of dumbassed
> LLBs and the like who make our tempers flare. They, if anyone, are
> the prime "victims" of any presupposed "pushiness".
>
> --
> ricardo, ex-euroslav
> vancouver bc canada
> e-mail: sovietjamaicanguy yahoo ca
Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
>
> On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:51:41 +0000, Robert Briggs
> wrote:
>
> >That said, I also reckon that some of them are technically skillful but
> >seem to be a bit too pushy on the roads.
>
> But we do try our damndest not to be. It's the likes of dumbassed
> LLBs and the like who make our tempers flare. They, if anyone, are
> the prime "victims" of any presupposed "pushiness".
>
> --
> ricardo, ex-euroslav
> vancouver bc canada
> e-mail: sovietjamaicanguy yahoo ca
Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
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On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:42:16 -0330, Terry
wrote:
>Ricardo wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:51:41 +0000, Robert Briggs
>> wrote:
>>
>> >That said, I also reckon that some of them are technically skillful but
>> >seem to be a bit too pushy on the roads.
>>
>> But we do try our damndest not to be. It's the likes of dumbassed
>> LLBs and the like who make our tempers flare. They, if anyone, are
>> the prime "victims" of any presupposed "pushiness".
>Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
Left Lane Blocker.
One of the lowest forms of life on the highways.
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wrote:
>Ricardo wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:51:41 +0000, Robert Briggs
>> wrote:
>>
>> >That said, I also reckon that some of them are technically skillful but
>> >seem to be a bit too pushy on the roads.
>>
>> But we do try our damndest not to be. It's the likes of dumbassed
>> LLBs and the like who make our tempers flare. They, if anyone, are
>> the prime "victims" of any presupposed "pushiness".
>Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
Left Lane Blocker.
One of the lowest forms of life on the highways.
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Brandon Sommerville
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[email protected] (Ricardo) wrote in message news:...
> But having an out-of-state or foreign licence is not the same as
> having none at all, which was the case to which I was referring.
In terms of the validity of an insurance policy for the benefit of
persons injured on UK roads, the chief problem is persons who drive
without authority (and thus uninsured) and those who drive while
disqualified (probably also uninsured, at least for serious accidents
for which the insurer will conduct an investigation).
I raised the issue of EU law because it provides for Bureau insurance
cover where a car is driven on UK with false, fraudulent or stolen
non-UK EU Member State plates; and arguably prevents an insurer from
denying liability where a non-UK EU license is possessed. Even though
the driver may be deemed "unlicensed" under UK law.
> But having an out-of-state or foreign licence is not the same as
> having none at all, which was the case to which I was referring.
In terms of the validity of an insurance policy for the benefit of
persons injured on UK roads, the chief problem is persons who drive
without authority (and thus uninsured) and those who drive while
disqualified (probably also uninsured, at least for serious accidents
for which the insurer will conduct an investigation).
I raised the issue of EU law because it provides for Bureau insurance
cover where a car is driven on UK with false, fraudulent or stolen
non-UK EU Member State plates; and arguably prevents an insurer from
denying liability where a non-UK EU license is possessed. Even though
the driver may be deemed "unlicensed" under UK law.
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Brandon Sommerville wrote:
> Terry wrote:
>>Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
> Left Lane Blocker.
>
> One of the lowest forms of life on the highways.
Of course, in the UK, the equivalent would be a right lane blocker
> Terry wrote:
>>Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
> Left Lane Blocker.
>
> One of the lowest forms of life on the highways.
Of course, in the UK, the equivalent would be a right lane blocker
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On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:18:23 -0500, Arif Khokar
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>>>Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
>> Left Lane Blocker.
>>
>> One of the lowest forms of life on the highways.
>Of course, in the UK, the equivalent would be a right lane blocker
True, which is why I prefer the generic term "bandit" for the scum.
LLB can also stand for Left Lane Bandit, fwiw. Actually I make a
slight distinction: a lane blocker might simply be someone blocking
the passing lane temporarily, whereas a lane hog or bandit flatly
refuses to move outta the way. It's just a matter of perception of
terminology, imho.
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ricardo, ex-euroslav
vancouver bc canada
e-mail: sovietjamaicanguy yahoo ca
wrote:
>>>Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
>> Left Lane Blocker.
>>
>> One of the lowest forms of life on the highways.
>Of course, in the UK, the equivalent would be a right lane blocker
True, which is why I prefer the generic term "bandit" for the scum.
LLB can also stand for Left Lane Bandit, fwiw. Actually I make a
slight distinction: a lane blocker might simply be someone blocking
the passing lane temporarily, whereas a lane hog or bandit flatly
refuses to move outta the way. It's just a matter of perception of
terminology, imho.
--
ricardo, ex-euroslav
vancouver bc canada
e-mail: sovietjamaicanguy yahoo ca
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In article ,
Terry wrote:
> Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
and here I was thinking it stood for Bachelor of the Letters of Law
Terry wrote:
> Ricardo. What is an LLB? Terry.
and here I was thinking it stood for Bachelor of the Letters of Law
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Nahhhh! Make the test nice and hard - I still see plenty of complete idiot
drivers on the roads ...
Hey, I managed to pass it, so it can't be *that* hard!
drivers on the roads ...
Hey, I managed to pass it, so it can't be *that* hard!
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>Yes, it's amazing how often I've found it necessary to back around a
>corner. Wait a minute. Surely it's happened at least once in the last
>40 years. Well I guess not. But it's still a really basic skill.
>Perhaps everyone should have to do it while towing a trailer.
Reversing round corner's I've found to be extremely useful - especially if
you're driving round city streets hunting for a parking spot - it's easier
than doing a 3 point turn, and often, the roads are far too narrow for one
to do a u-turn.
MH.
>corner. Wait a minute. Surely it's happened at least once in the last
>40 years. Well I guess not. But it's still a really basic skill.
>Perhaps everyone should have to do it while towing a trailer.
Reversing round corner's I've found to be extremely useful - especially if
you're driving round city streets hunting for a parking spot - it's easier
than doing a 3 point turn, and often, the roads are far too narrow for one
to do a u-turn.
MH.
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Brent P wrote in message ...
>In article , CliveM wrote:
>> Backing out of a driveway would be a fail!
>Does one have to back in, instead?
Yes - In the UK it's illegal to reverse from the minor road of a junction
onto a major road. You must do it the other way round.
MH.
>In article , CliveM wrote:
>> Backing out of a driveway would be a fail!
>Does one have to back in, instead?
Yes - In the UK it's illegal to reverse from the minor road of a junction
onto a major road. You must do it the other way round.
MH.
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Martin McGowan wrote in message ...
>actually it is when stationary at a red light LOL. If you are used to
>driving an automatic and or you have been driving for many years then you
>probably don't use your handbrake. In the case of the automatic you take
>your foot off the brake and if you are on the level you edge forward, if on
>a hill you stand still. If you are experienced with foot clutch and gear
>lever you heel and toe the brake and accelerator and balance it on the
>clutch and brake. you look at the majority of drivers with 5 or 6 years
>driving experience and they do not use the handbrake. Martin
I disagree. The handbrake is actually less hassle than the footbrake, and
should someone shunt you from behind, at least the car has a tendency to
want to stop a bit more.
Now what gets me is people who "ratchet up" the handbrake, instead of
raising it with the button pressed! Don't they tell you the proper way to
apply the handbrake?
MH.
>actually it is when stationary at a red light LOL. If you are used to
>driving an automatic and or you have been driving for many years then you
>probably don't use your handbrake. In the case of the automatic you take
>your foot off the brake and if you are on the level you edge forward, if on
>a hill you stand still. If you are experienced with foot clutch and gear
>lever you heel and toe the brake and accelerator and balance it on the
>clutch and brake. you look at the majority of drivers with 5 or 6 years
>driving experience and they do not use the handbrake. Martin
I disagree. The handbrake is actually less hassle than the footbrake, and
should someone shunt you from behind, at least the car has a tendency to
want to stop a bit more.
Now what gets me is people who "ratchet up" the handbrake, instead of
raising it with the button pressed! Don't they tell you the proper way to
apply the handbrake?
MH.
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Barbara Vaughan wrote in message ...
>Normal use of a clutch shouldn't wear it out during the life of the car.
>Abusive use (such as "riding" the clutch) is what wears it out.
So sidestepping it with the engine at 5 grand is right out, right?
I wonder how many of those you get before the clutch turns into a smoking
mess ... ;-)
>Normal use of a clutch shouldn't wear it out during the life of the car.
>Abusive use (such as "riding" the clutch) is what wears it out.
So sidestepping it with the engine at 5 grand is right out, right?
I wonder how many of those you get before the clutch turns into a smoking
mess ... ;-)
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Nate Nagel wrote in message
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>[email protected] wrote in message
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>Just curious, if any YooKay residents can shed any insight, what is
>the rationale for not crossing hands?
Maintaining proper control of the vehicle ...
>Also, why the requirement to use the hand brake?
Covered earlier in the thread, although the rationale is that you should be
in complete control of the vehicle at all times, and this means that when it
is stationary, you need to ensure it remains so indefinitely.
> Do cars in the
>YooKay activate the brake lights with the hand brake on?
No.
> I can see
>that practice causing lots of problems here as most drivers barely
>stop in time even with nice bright brake lights (and CHMSLs to boot)
Well, they're minions.
MH.
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>Just curious, if any YooKay residents can shed any insight, what is
>the rationale for not crossing hands?
Maintaining proper control of the vehicle ...
>Also, why the requirement to use the hand brake?
Covered earlier in the thread, although the rationale is that you should be
in complete control of the vehicle at all times, and this means that when it
is stationary, you need to ensure it remains so indefinitely.
> Do cars in the
>YooKay activate the brake lights with the hand brake on?
No.
> I can see
>that practice causing lots of problems here as most drivers barely
>stop in time even with nice bright brake lights (and CHMSLs to boot)
Well, they're minions.
MH.
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:01:05 -0000, "Martin Harvey"
wrote:
>Now what gets me is people who "ratchet up" the handbrake, instead of
>raising it with the button pressed! Don't they tell you the proper way to
>apply the handbrake?
I was taught both ways by instructors. But I pull the h/b up in one
swift, quick motion.
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ricardo, ex-euroslav
vancouver bc canada
e-mail: sovietjamaicanguy yahoo ca
wrote:
>Now what gets me is people who "ratchet up" the handbrake, instead of
>raising it with the button pressed! Don't they tell you the proper way to
>apply the handbrake?
I was taught both ways by instructors. But I pull the h/b up in one
swift, quick motion.
--
ricardo, ex-euroslav
vancouver bc canada
e-mail: sovietjamaicanguy yahoo ca