-Martin

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:19:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>B Vaughan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:47:21 +0100, Erick T. Barkhuis
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Mike:
>> >>
>> >> Is April 1st-8th typically too snowy/rainy/cold for the Munich and Rhine
>> >> river area?
>> >
>> >"Rhine river area"!!! I missed that completely!
>> >
>> >It's a wonderful area. Very scenic, from Bonn southwards.
>> >But...may I suggest you wait until you have some time for a trip in the
>> >second half of September for that part of your tour? Then, the area is at
>> >its best. Also, it's a great area for more senior travellers.
>> >Wine markets, Rhine river boat rides and all! My favorite fall trip would
>> >be five days of Rhine river (last days of September) combined with 4-5
>> >days Barcelona (first week of October).
>>
>> We once spent a wonderful week along the Mosel in early September. It
>> was around the time of the grape harvest.
>
>We actually encountered a sunny heat wave on the Rhine and Mosel in
>October 2001. Apart from the evenings getting a bit chilly the weather
>was amazing.

It's often like that at that time of year. We used to go to wine festivals in
the Koblenz area at the end of September beginning of October. In 10 years only
one was a wet weekend.
--

Martin

Alan S

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:25:41 GMT, Mike <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>>
>> It would help if you told us your age, interests and where you are from. We are not mind
>> readers, I hope you know.
>
>29 and 30 years old. From the United States. In general we like
>exploring. Not big on fancy expensive restaurants. I love the
>atmosphere of unique cities. I'm also big into photography.
>
Based on that - try this:
http://www.wordtravels.com/Cities/Czech+Republic/Prague/Climate

Wonderful architecture, beautiful city, incredibly cheap
cuisine by your standards - and a great photo every few
paces.

I'm a little biased:-)

I haven't been in April, others can tell you what the
weather's like then but the chart on that page doesn't look
too bad.

Cheers, Alan, Australia
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Alan S

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:14:44 +0100, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:

>tim.....:
>>
>> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected] t...
>> > Mike:
>> >
>> >> In general we like
>> >> exploring. Not big on fancy expensive restaurants. I love the
>> >> atmosphere of unique cities. I'm also big into photography.
>> >
>> > I believe - in contrast to others in this thread who suggest you should
>> > visit Italy - that Germany _is_ something for you.
>>
>> I think that he should visit Italy because he want's to go in April,
>> not because in principle, he should prefer Italy over Germany.
>
>Fair enough, Tim.
>Actually, we're talking a 30-ish young American couple on their first
>Europe tour. I don't think they really can go wrong, can they?
>One can "explore" and shoot pictures in almost every bigger and smaller
>city in Europe (Prague, anyone?)

Agreed:-)

>so it's also a matter of weather - which
>was the question in the first place.
>
>Italy would do. So would Barcelona or even Andalusian cities (great for
>pictures).
>
Granada at Easter (Easter Sunday is April 8 this year) was
incredible. As to weather, I was there in 2003 for 5 days
over Easter:
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2006/10/granada.html

Three days were fine, sunny and warm, two were wet miserable
and cold. And the Alhambra was marvellous.

>And I still wonder why Americans at that age would leave out Amsterdam.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
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Alan S

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:53:12 +0000, [email protected] (David
Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>tim..... <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Markku Gr�nroos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected] ...
>> >
>> > "Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
>> > viestiss�:1ht2voh.29sl8k17dclwmN%maennig.0701@cric etus.com...
>> >> Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> It is just easier to say than my "vacation
>> >>> overseas" or my "vacation to UK and Europe".
>> >>
>> >> Europe isn't overseas. It's clearly on this side of any ocean.
>> >>
>> > Germany is overseas.
>>
>> Tis for me too.
>
>I find it hard to use the term "overseas" when going to continental
>Europe from the UK- despite it being technically correct.

Why not? For me, Tasmania is overseas:-)

Cheers, Alan, Australia
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Alan S

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:49:09 +0000, [email protected] (David
Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >
>> >> Was planning on 4-nights in London,
>> >
>> > Discussions about UK being Europe or not are still pending.
>> >
>>
>> Sorry for my ignorance!
>
>You weren't wrong. I'm trusting the poster was having a laugh. The UK is
>in Europe. There are some places that people may disagree about being
>included in Europe

Tahiti? New Caledonia? St Pierre et Miquelon? Aah, those
French:-)

> (e.g. Cyprus, Iceland etc.) but the UK isn't one of
>them. And don't confuse it with politics. In the UK (and elsewhere) it's
>often used to refer to the EU. So, someone in the UK wanting to be out
>of the EU might say that they 'don't want to be in (or part of) Europe.'
Cheers, Alan, Australia
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B Vaughan

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:40:51 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Let is be knownst that on Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:35:40 +0100, B
>Vaughan<[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:47:21 +0100, Erick T. Barkhuis
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Mike:
>>>>
>>>> Is April 1st-8th typically too snowy/rainy/cold for the Munich and Rhine
>>>> river area?
>>>
>>>"Rhine river area"!!! I missed that completely!
>>>
>>>It's a wonderful area. Very scenic, from Bonn southwards.
>>>But...may I suggest you wait until you have some time for a trip in the
>>>second half of September for that part of your tour? Then, the area is at
>>>its best. Also, it's a great area for more senior travellers.
>>>Wine markets, Rhine river boat rides and all! My favorite fall trip would
>>>be five days of Rhine river (last days of September) combined with 4-5
>>>days Barcelona (first week of October).
>>
>>We once spent a wonderful week along the Mosel in early September. It
>>was around the time of the grape harvest.
>
>Even good for a non-boozer?

Even better. I actually remembered the trip.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

-Martin

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:08:07 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:50:42 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... I didn't stay in the centre of Munich during the Oktoberfest. I did pay exactly
> ... the same rate during the Oktoberfest as I did during the rest of the year.
> ...
> ... Magda the Oktoberfest isn't in summer.
>
>No kidding...

Kidding? Go wash your mouth out :-)
--

Martin

-Martin

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:09:17 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:52:51 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:30:17 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:20:00 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, B Vaughan<[email protected]>
> ... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >
> ... > ... You must have some empowered teachers in Paris. In Italy, if a teacher
> ... > ... so much as disagrees with a child, the parents are in the principal's
> ... > ... office by 4 PM breathing fire.
> ... >
> ... >If their kids know everything, why do they send them to school?
> ... >
> ... > ... We've heard of parents who complained because:
> ... > ...
> ... > ... 1) the teacher gave their child nightmares by explaining that the
> ... > ... Egyptian mummies were dead bodies.
> ... >
> ... >(Wouldn't it be much more nightmarish if mummies were *living bodies*?)
> ... >
> ... > ... 2) the teacher humiliated their child by making her exit from the
> ... > ... classroom at the end of the line because she had been unruly all
> ... > ... morning.
> ... >
> ... >Forget global warming; the next generation will destroy our civilization
> ... >single-handedly...
> ...
> ... Is that what your mum and dad told you?
>
>No.

Life was hard in your family shoe box.
--

Martin

-Martin

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:10:42 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:51:27 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:04:28 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:41:44 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Jens
> ... >Arne Maennig) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >
> ... > ...
> ... > ... That's one of the reasons why I mostly travel to Munich by bicycle.
> ... > ... However, the argument is pretty unclear to me. I've never seen more
> ... > ... students in Munich in June but in April.
> ... >
> ... >It's meant to be "children/fambleeees on holiday". Something to avoid at any cost.
> ...
> ... Please don't start your sad child hating rants again.
>
>It's called "advice".
>
>Please feel free to go on holidays at the same time as the little darlings *every year*.
>Don't report back.

If you have your own kids, it's fairly normal to go on holiday with them.
--

Martin

-Martin

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:23:12 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to "tim....." <[email protected]> :
>
>>> I paid the same all the year round in Germany too.
>>
>>Depends where you go.
>>
>>In the obvious tourist places, the summer rate will be 50% more
>>than the winter rate.
>
>But neither April nor June are normally regarded as the Summer period.
>That really starts when the schools knock-off, around the beginning of
>July.

and the place to stay is not in an obvious tourist hotel.
--

Martin

-Magda

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:20:54 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
...
... >On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:51:46 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:44:59 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
... > ...
... > ... >On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:34:01 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, B Vaughan<[email protected]>
... > ... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... > ... >
... > ... > ... I would guess that fewer than half the hotels in Rome charge more in
... > ... > ... high season than at other times. In Florence, even fewer. (You could
... > ... > ... argue that Florence has no low season.) In Rome, July and August are
... > ... > ... considered low season, for those hotels with variable rates.
... > ... > ...
... > ... > ... For what it's worth, I just returned to a hotel in Rome where I had
... > ... > ... spent a few days last August. The price was exactly the same.
... > ... > ...
... > ... > ... In mountain or seaside vacation areas in Italy, there are sometimes
... > ... > ... other restrictions in high season, such as a half-board requirement,
... > ... > ... or a one-week minimum stay.
... > ... >
... > ... >Pick a travel brochure and check the room prices.
... > ...
... > ... Paid the same price all the year round in hotels I used in Rome and Northern
... > ... Italy.
... >
... >Not true for the rest of the world.
...
...
... Which is interesting but irrelevant, as this post is really about Germany
... and possibly parts of Italy.

But the OP has found a difference between prices in April and June.

Remember the OP??

-Magda

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:33:09 +1100, in rec.travel.europe, Alan S <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... >
... >Pick a travel brochure and check the room prices.
...
... Why not do it from your desktop?
... www.venere.com
... www.hotel.de

Some people won't believe in anything that is not print on glossy paper.

kurkku

"Alan S" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
viestiss�:[email protected] om...
>
> Why not? For me, Tasmania is overseas:-)
>
I would never visit the island because there are Tasmanian devils. The most
horrendous beast of them all is Taz.

-Martin

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:24:59 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to Erick T. Barkhuis <[email protected]> :
>
>>Martin:
>>> Erick :
>>> >I would suggest smaller cities and towns like M�nster, Aachen and Trier.
>>> >Yes, in April for more photographicly interesting scenes.
>>> >Want something bigger, then Dresden would be something.
>>>
>>> I'd go to Munich. There's more than enough to keep him occupied in Munich
>>> and the surrounding area.
>>
>>Enough? Oh sure.
>>There'd be enough in Hamburg or Mannheim as well.
>>But what makes Munich so "unique" and why would Munich be especially
>>interesting for a photographer?
>
>A short trip to the mountains.

or even several short trips.

We went to Neuschwanstein and Schloss Linderhof once at Easter in April, there
was still plenty of snow on the ground. Magic!

Munich is the capital of Bavaria, with all the things capital cities have.

I did wonder if Erick had been to Munich.
--

Martin

Tim C .

Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :

>But the OP has found a difference between prices in April and June.

...of flights.


--
Tim C.