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French censored answer to Google Earth.

Old Jul 26th 2006 | 5:06 am
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In article <1hj3gjh.1i5w2l91nk35ssN%this_address_is_for_spam@ yahoo.com>,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the
royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:

    > *From:* [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
    > chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate)
    > *Date:* Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:59:03 +0100
    >
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > In article
    > > <1hj3f46.r5aevc1p4t6f7N%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com>,
    > > [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of
    > > the
    > > royal duchy of city south and deansgate) wrote:
    > >
    > > > *From:* [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
    > > > chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate)
    > > > *Date:* Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:26:45 +0100
    > > >
    > > > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > > > >
    > > > > > But you said that the French can't design a website without
    > > > > > Flash.
    > > > >
    > > > > Maybe they hired designers from abroad.
    > > >
    > > > Or maybe you're just full of crap.
    > >
    > > There may be some truth in Mixi's theory on this front -
    >
    > <gasp>
    >
    > > there does seem
    > > to be significant national variation in the use of Flash. Frex I've
    > > recently been looking at a lot of Argentinian sites (planning a visit
    > > there in September) and almost without exception they're Flash-based.
    >
    > Can you think of a country where web design generally avoids Flash
    > though?

Not as such, but from my experience I bet that a random selection of 20
Argentinian Websites will produce far more that are Flash-based than a
similar collection of British sites. Admittedly, anecdote not data, and
there are very likely differences between /types/ of Website (I haven't
been checking out Argentinian merchant banks, for example).

I haven't particularly observed the prevalence in France that Mixi notes,
but then he probably looks at more French sites than I.

Now that you mention it, I don't think it's very popular in China and
Taiwan (I frequently end up at Websites from those countries for
work-related reasons, not that I often manage to get much of use out of
them). It's too hot to wonder whether there is some character-set reason
why this should be so.
 
Old Jul 26th 2006 | 5:07 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:

    > *From:* Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    > *Date:* Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:58:42 +0200
    >
    > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >
    > > Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the
    > > military _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the
    > > press actually free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    >
    > I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    >
    > As far as I know, the press has never been free in France.

How do you define 'free' in this context?
 
Old Jul 26th 2006 | 5:10 am
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<[email protected]> wrote:

    > It's too hot to wonder whether there is some character-set reason
    > why this should be so.

Indeed it is too hot. Let's go shopping, but in a mall air-conditioned
to Mixi's liking!

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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 5:13 am
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Stanislas de Kertanguy
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Après mûre réflexion, Mxsmanic a écrit :
    > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >> Yes. But are those photographs with wristwatch precision readily
    >> available ?
    > No, but submetre precision is readily available.

Two questions:

1/ Is submetre precision available on Google Earth (as this was the
subject of your discussion) ?
2/ Have you lokked upon small French towns (or not so small ones) on
Google Earth and Géoportail.

and one remark : I strongly doubt that ultra-high resolution Google
pics are satellite ones.

    >> Last thing, Mxsmanic : please STOP to consider that I stand for
    >> everything French. I do not. I'm not vexed by your comments on the
    >> so-called mediocrity of anything French. Please get it!
    > Then why are you going to this trouble to tell me so?

Because I note your tendancy to push on every subject like this as if
you are in need of denigrating when you answer me.

Buy the way, I'd like to know your answer about free press. How exactly
can you label newspapers that rely only on advertising as free press ?

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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 5:18 am
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Mxsmanic a pensé très fort :
    > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the military
    >> _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the press actually
    >> free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    > I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.

I'm absolutely not vexed by this specific comment on France. I'd just
like to go further in the argument, and since I am interested in the
problems of the press, we may get somewhere.

    > As far as I know, the press has never been free in France.

You said that it has been hindered by the military. Can you be more
specific ?

You wrote also that the French were scared by a free press, referring
to those newspapers that ar given away for free.

How exactly do you consider them as "free press" ?

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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 5:19 am
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Stanislas de Kertanguy
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[email protected] a émis l'idée suivante :
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
    >> *From:* Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >> *Date:* Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:58:42 +0200
    >>
    >> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >>
    >>> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the
    >>> military _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the
    >>> press actually free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    >>
    >> I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    >>
    >> As far as I know, the press has never been free in France.
    > How do you define 'free' in this context?

He wrote that it had no relation to the cost (or absence thereof). I'm
too lazy to dig up the Message-ID, but he did write it, so I infer that
by "free" he means "freedom of expression".

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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 5:38 am
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the military
    >> _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the press actually
    >> free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    > I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    > As far as I know, the press has never been free in France.

Your knowledge of this subject is equalled only by your knowledge of other
subjects about which you frequently misinform us.

JohnT
 
Old Jul 26th 2006 | 6:09 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Stanislas de Kertanguy) wrote:

    > *From:* Stanislas de Kertanguy <[email protected]>
    > *Date:* Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:19:47 +0200
    >
    > [email protected] a émis l'idée suivante :
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > [email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
    > >
    > >> *From:* Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    > >> *Date:* Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:58:42 +0200
    > >>
    > >> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > >>
    > >>> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the
    > >>> military _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the
    > >>> press actually free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    > >>
    > >> I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    > >>
    > >> As far as I know, the press has never been free in France.
    > >
    > > How do you define 'free' in this context?
    >
    > He wrote that it had no relation to the cost (or absence thereof). I'm
    > too lazy to dig up the Message-ID, but he did write it, so I infer that
    > by "free" he means "freedom of expression".

Quite - but I'm waiting for him to expand on this. There's a middle
ground between total press freedom and total state control of the media,
and virtually all countries fall into this. But I don't think Mixi likes
grey areas!
 
Old Jul 26th 2006 | 6:15 am
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In article <[email protected]>, Stanislas de
Kertanguy <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Mxsmanic a pensŽ trs fort :
    > > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > >
    > >> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the military
    > >> _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the press actually
    > >> free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    > >
    > > I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    >
    > I'm absolutely not vexed by this specific comment on France. I'd just
    > like to go further in the argument, and since I am interested in the
    > problems of the press, we may get somewhere.

Do you think it appropriate that the government issues required 'press
credentials' ?

jay
Wed Jul 26, 2006
mailto:[email protected]

    >
    > > As far as I know, the press has never been free in France.
    >
    > You said that it has been hindered by the military. Can you be more
    > specific ?
    >
    > You wrote also that the French were scared by a free press, referring
    > to those newspapers that ar given away for free.
    >
    > How exactly do you consider them as "free press" ?
 
Old Jul 26th 2006 | 6:29 am
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Go Fig avait écrit le 26/07/2006 :
    > In article <[email protected]>, Stanislas de
    > Kertanguy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Mxsmanic a pens´ trs fort :
    >>> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    >>>
    >>>> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the military
    >>>> _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the press actually
    >>>> free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    >>>
    >>> I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    >>
    >> I'm absolutely not vexed by this specific comment on France. I'd just
    >> like to go further in the argument, and since I am interested in the
    >> problems of the press, we may get somewhere.
    > Do you think it appropriate that the government issues required 'press
    > credentials' ?

You mean "la carte de presse", right ?

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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 6:43 am
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In article <[email protected]>, Stanislas de
Kertanguy <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Go Fig avait Žcrit le 26/07/2006 :
    > > In article <[email protected]>, Stanislas de
    > > Kertanguy <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Mxsmanic a pens« tr¶s fort :
    > >>> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > >>>
    > >>>> Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the military
    > >>>> _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the press actually
    > >>>> free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    > >>>
    > >>> I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    > >>
    > >> I'm absolutely not vexed by this specific comment on France. I'd just
    > >> like to go further in the argument, and since I am interested in the
    > >> problems of the press, we may get somewhere.
    > >
    > > Do you think it appropriate that the government issues required 'press
    > > credentials' ?
    >
    > You mean "la carte de presse", right ?

The one that that must be issued by CCIJP, the Commission of
Professional Journalist.

jay
Wed Jul 26, 2006
mailto:[email protected]
 
Old Jul 26th 2006 | 6:46 am
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Martin wrote:

    > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:30:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >Mxsmanic wrote:
    > >
    > >> Gregory Morrow writes:
    > >>
    > >> > Are the roofs of the White House and it's directly - adjoining
    > >> > buildings blanked - out...???
    > >>
    > >> Some of the roof area on the White House has been retouched on Google
    > >> Maps. It's not a very good job.
    > >>
    > >> I just tried Geoportail; the image quality is almost unusably poor,
    > >> and looks like a sick joke compared to Google Maps. And this is for
    > >> the center of Paris! The site is also designed more poorly and the
    > >> response time is worse. If they can't do it right, why don't they
    > >> just give up?
    > >
    > >
    > >Does this site also display the French penchant for Flash...???
    > Flesh Gordon gRunge?


With his cohort "Jacqueline the Merciless"...

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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 6:48 am
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David wrote:

    > Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:32:44 +0100, [email protected]
    > > (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
    > > deansgate) wrote:
    > >
    > > >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > > >>
    > > >> > You know, not every French lives in Paris.
    > > >>
    > > >> Every French what?
    > > >
    > > >Piss off.
    > >
    > > Letter?
    > Which would alarm Mixi more- a French letter or a French kiss? Mwaa!


Lol...good one David!

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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 6:58 am
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<barney> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
    > > *From:* Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    > > *Date:* Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:58:42 +0200
    > >
    > > Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > >
    > > > Can you explain how the free press "have been" hindered by the
    > > > military _specifically in France_ ? In your opinion, when was the
    > > > press actually free and when did the military begin to interfere ?
    > >
    > > I thought my comments on France didn't vex you.
    > >
    > > As far as I know, the press has never been free in France.
    > How do you define 'free' in this context?


"Nihilism!"...

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Old Jul 26th 2006 | 7:14 am
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Gregory Morrow <[email protected]> wrote:

    > David wrote:
    >
    > > Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:32:44 +0100, [email protected]
    > > > (David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
    > > > deansgate) wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >> Stanislas de Kertanguy writes:
    > > > >>
    > > > >> > You know, not every French lives in Paris.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Every French what?
    > > > >
    > > > >Piss off.
    > > >
    > > > Letter?
    > >
    > > Which would alarm Mixi more- a French letter or a French kiss? Mwaa!
    > >
    >
    > Lol...good one David!

Besos! :)

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